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Whitch is stronger kung fu or karate?

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Whitch is stronger kung fu or karate?

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  1. At an expert's level they are about the same, but kung fu looks cooler.


  2. Depends on what they teach and how they do it. You'll find some schools of both styles that only focus on forms and have no sparring. Then you'll have some schools of both styles that focus a lot on sparring. These are the good ones.

  3. they both suck!

  4. I believe it is Kung Fu

  5. Kung Fu, Karate uses strength Kung Fu uses Chi which means you are relaxed and until you throw a punch you only tense up at the moment of impact. Karate is a sport Kung Fu is a Martial Art that the Japanese tried to copy. Kung Fu wing chung in particular is faster more direct. Don't expect a Karate person to agree with that but if you have seen Way of the Dragon where Bruce Lee fights Chuck Norris that's how a real Karate, Kung Fu fight would turn out. FACT.

  6. They are literally the same but i would say Kung Fu!

  7. depends on you but i think kung fu if your determind you will love both of them?

  8. Kung fu, but Karate is not bad at all.

  9. kung fu

  10. Well, Karate is a "harder" art, in the sense that it is more rigid. Kung Fu uses more flowing, softer movements. So, Karate is "stronger" in that it is more rigid. It all depends on application and knowledge of the art.

  11. There is no wrong or right answer to that question. Both are powerful. But they go about building that power differently. Kung Fu builds strength from the inside out. Its a more internal art. Karate is more about physical toughness from the outside, but there are internal elements like meditation and breath control...however, I believe if you put a high level Kung Fu fighter against a high level Karate fighter, the Karate guy wins 80% of the time,  of sheer willingness to take punishment in order to give punishment.

  12. Kung Fu is Stronger Cause it's the mother Martial Art and every style comes from Kung Fu

  13. i think kung fu is the originated from the japan.

    karate is origin of the china. both has good technique. but i should prefer kung fu

  14. Karate because you learn to fight and you learn self defense

  15. i would say that kung fu is more powerful because it takes more skill

  16. Let's look at it from another viewpoint.

    Karate is subset of kung fu.

    Hence, there might be other stuffs in kung fu that might be different from karate. (note: different not necessarily better.)

  17. Karate is copied from some kung fu moves, but there are more kung fu styles that have moves not found in karate.

  18. much of it is about the practitioner and the style. I do, however prefer those arts over Wushu, which in my opinion is mostly show, or Tae Kwon Do, which I think relies too heavily on kicks.

  19. The strength of either is in the practioner of the same and not the style or system itself.

    Both utilize linear and circular motions, both utilize offensive and defensive postures.

    The natural abilities and genetic gifts of the individual will determine who is faster, stronger, who moves better, reacts faster, etc., as well as the manner in which one has trained wil determine how might perform better.

  20. I would say the Whitch, they have spells and other ways more powerful than mortals.

    Stronger how? Stronger form, stronger body, stronger kicks, the question is too general and opinion based.

  21. One martial art isn't necessarily stronger than another. It's just whatever art you're best at and whatever art compliments your strengths. Besides, I recommend taking multiple martial arts as opposed to just one. Take Karate-Do AND Kung Fu!

  22. i think kung fu

  23. They both are rooted in the ancient Chinese martial art of Chaun-fa.   However in modern sense most Karate schools still spar hard, where as most Kung fu schools now shun sparring.  This is not 100% as I do know a very good Kung fu that does spar hard.  Just a generalization about the two.  

    Kung fu forms are fancier than Karate ones, but honestly sparring is more important, because it is more realistic.  So since Karate spars more than Kung fu (a generalization) I would give it to Karate.

  24. Neither,  Either arts is only as strong, powerful, fast, effective as the individual that practices them.  It is like trying to compare an apple and an orange. While both are fruits, they have very different properties. there is no rational way to say that one is better than the other.

    EDIT:    steaua_alex_august  you need to be careful making statements like,  "Karate lacks the spirit necessary for a true style."   You need to get your facts straight.  It is obvious that you have little knowledge of the subject.

  25. I felt that karate(Shorin Ryu) was a bit too rigid/restrictive whereas the Wing Chun kung fu I studied was much more mulit-dimensional, intuitive, and immediately applicable to a self defense situation.  I'd have to go with kung-fu over karate on this one.  What's the point in taking a year to learn to defend yourself when you can learn effectively in a much shorter period of time?

  26. Here is a list of the martial arts I think are the most effective, from most, to least effective.  The criteria I base on their effectiveness, is how well they harness what the body can do, while utilizing as little of the body's resources as possible.  For example, Karate is more effective than Catch Wrestling, because you burn less calories delivering a knockout blow from a fist hardened on a Makiwara, than you do wrestling around with someone.  Tai Chi, on the other hand, is more effective than Karate, because you burn less calories moving out of the way of a strike, and making a small step to push the Karateka to unbalance him, than you do throwing a punch with all you've got.  Effectiveness, thus, I base on efficiency and how well the martial art uses both the body's biology as to how it applies to the laws of physics and without wasting any more of your time, from most to least effective;

    1)  Tai Chi Chuan, Yang style, the most efficient of all the Tai Chi forms, and the strongest of the internal martial arts.

    2)  The Tibetan Crane Style of Kung Fu, practiced also, historically, in the northern Shaolin temple.  Or, Shaolin Kung Fu.

    3)  Shuia Jiao, Chinese wrestling, the king of the grappling arts.  Sanshow, the martial art Cung Le practices, uses a lot of grappling moves and principles from Shuia Jiao, and its effectiveness against submission wrestling was proven in a recent match against Frank Shamrock.

    4)  Karate, Shotokan style, as Gichin Funakoshi originally designed it.  Although ultimately, there are no real "styles" of Karate, as Okinawa is small, and ultimately all Karate traces its ancestry back to Hung Gar Chuan.  Karate descends from Fujian Crane style, not to be confused with Tibetan, Fujian Crane in turn descends from Hung Gar.

    5)  Catch Wrestling and Judo.  Far as technique and use of strength are concerned both are roughly equal, with Judo only having the better win reccord because the Japanese train more fanatically in it.

    6)  Western Boxing, old school.  Old school boxing, was tested against hardened criminals, some of them released from prison just so they could fight in WWII and the Korean war.  The reason boxers of old, of all weight classes, were tougher than modern, is because the pool of boxers was larger for one, meaning it was harder to get to the top, and second, it was run by the mob.  All kinds of unsavory characters stepped into the ring, and some of the punks even stuffed their gloves with iron.  Because of the nasty, damned well near unregulated nature of the sport, boxers were sorely tested.  If the fighting stance of old school boxing is sideways, similar to Karate and Kung Fu, it is because it was forced to develop similar principles for ring survival.  Old school boxers boxed more sideways than modern, because low blows and other "cheap shots" were far more common, as mobsters sometimes paid the refs to act as if they didn't see anything.  You have to admire, and respect the champions of old because of this, especially the likes of Joe Louis; countless mobsters tried to rig fights to get him to lose, sometimes even pitting cold blooded killers against him, but Joe always won.  Old school boxing, should not be underestimated; it is a deadly effective form of fighting even more effective than Muay Thai.  Speaking of which....

    7)  Muay Thai.  It has a good win reccord, but its large number of "power" moves, such as that vicious roundhouse, and of course that flying knee that you do with a running start, leaves the fighter vulnerable if they miss.  Muay Thai boxers have only met with success because of their brutal training regime for one.  Second, most Kung Fu and Karate tourneys are restricted only to strikes, by and large; joint locks, elbows, knees, etc, that is not allowed.  Thus the Thai boxer is used to fighting with all of their weapons, while a Karate or sports Kung Fu guy is literally fighting from having developed bad habits, namely, having had some of his moves "locked away" for the fight.  If a Karateka, used ALL of their arsenal against a Thai boxer, the Thai boxer would stand little chance of winning.  Also, tough to swallow as this may be, too many techniques in Muay Thai provide an expert Judoka or catch wrestler the perfect opportunity to take them down and tie them up, whereas in old school boxing, and traditional Okinawan Karate or Shotokan as Funakoshi intended it, it is much harder.

    8)  Krav Maga; it is only effective, because it borrows moves from martial arts proven effective, and the only real thing that sets it apart as a distinct "style," are its disarming techniques, which do not really exist in older styles for obvious reasons.

    9)  Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, known to its Judoka critics as castrated Judo.

    10)  Sanda; the absolute worst bastardization of a once proud, effective, and noble art.  Take the least effective moves of every Kung Fu style, and then call it a sport.  That's Sanda, not to be confused with Sanshou, which should actually be put on the same level as Shuia Jiao.

    Yeah, you heard me; I place Krav Maga above BJJ, because on the streets Krav Maga will actually save your life, whereas BJJ well......  you'd have to train in Brazil to use it effectively, where it is still constantly tested against Vale Tudo fighters.  No man; that rivalry isn't dead, and it is unlikely to ever die.

    So, all things considered, since all three of the arts above Karate are different styles of Kung Fu then, easily Kung Fu.  Karate's moves are simple, and lightning fast, however compared to Kung Fu they waste too much energy.  If a Karateka is to beat a Kung Fu expert, he's only got roughly 30 seconds.  If he or she can't do it within those 30 seconds, its all over.

    A Shaolin Kung Fu expert can just keep going; the circular movements are extremely energy efficient.  A karateka though will run out of steam, and all of his power, if he's strong, at roughly 30 minutes.  If it drags on for that long, it gets all intense and heated like, because of the lack of energy efficiency in broken motions, as opposed to the energy efficiency of circular motions, a Kung Fu expert again, they can keep it up all day, whereas a Karate guy, at 10 minutes they will be winded, at 20 they will struggle just not to get hit and by 30 minutes, they have to acknowledge defeat as by then, they will likely not even be able to keep their guard up.  A Shaolin monk on the other hand will just stand there as if nothing happened.

    So, easily, without question doubt or hesitation, Kung Fu.  Karate, can defeat most styles of Kung Fu out there, including its predecessors Fujian Crane Style and Hung Gar Chuan.  It can not however, defeat Shaolin, Tibetan, or even Tai Chi Chuan, no matter how hard you train in Karate.  Broken motions, while holding a lot of power, are simply not as energy efficient as circular motions, so unless the Karateka can end the fight with one strike, and within the space of 30 seconds, after those 30 seconds are over, the fight goes to the Shaolin monk.

    Hope this helped.

  27. watch a karate kata demonstration and a kung-fu one and you'll see the difference.Karate is meant to be a complimentary style for sword fighting, used mainly when you need to destabilaze or capture the opponent. Kung-fu is pure martial arts. Mastery of it means to push the limit of your body endurance and strenght. Kung-fu has defined kata and combines artistic footwork with strong punches, palms or spear-fingers that  can come from any direction. Karate is a practical, simple style, it's meant just for fighting, while the true reason of martial arts id to know and better yourself- mind, body and self. Karate lacks the spirit necesary for a true style.

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