Who's at fault? The Puppy or the owner?

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Not once does she say the animal drew blood but then I also say you shouldn't have a wolfdog or hybrid if you don't know what you are doing. This puppy is now going to be put down for getting rough.

So who is the problem the owner or the wolf for doing what wolf puppies do?

Answer 1

THIS QUESTION IS FAKE!!!!!!___Its probably a 13 year old kid just exciting about going to school trust me i can tell its fake. The kid just wants attention.

Answer 2

def. the owner.   If you read the profile, she has 5 cats and 4 dogs with one being pregnant.  Sounds like she has more than she can handle and wants to be rid of a nuisance(to her an way).  People like her make me sick.  

If she has other dogs she ought to know that pups mouth on things, and how the heck can a 4 month olds teeth be that sharp yet?

Answer 3

It sounds like an issue from both sides.  These people wanted a puppy they could hold and cuddle and most dogs don't like that.  At least they tried with a professional trainer, although I think they could have at least gotten a second opinion.

It makes me sad that a dog had to lose its life, but on the other hand, if the dog was that aggressive, it might have been the best for everyone.

Answer 4

You already know the answer.

That poor creature.  

Answer 5

I had no idea she had a wolf. It was probably a status symbol and she bite off more than she could handle. Kids.

I am on my 2nd wolf dog and still are learnig the differences between my( R I P)  shep/wolf and now Cody my artic/timber/malamute/husky. There is such a difference but I was prepared for their attitudes and they can be very comical. But relentless on something they want, even if it is just a afternoon walk. he knows when 2:00 comes around. And will sit or follow  me till we go. He is so intelligent and has to be told something twice and he just knows not to do it again. They are not easy to understand. He is sensitive like no other dog or wolf dog I have ever owned. He does not like no. And if he insisits on me using my outside voice to say no..he goes and pouts for hrs. Usually to his bed at the other end of the house!  Their eyes are like no other. I would never attempt to own a pure wolf. Ya just know better. They are a different animal.

Which deserve total respect..

Answer 6

Poor dog is right!! The owner is definitely at fault. I mean come on!!!! Anyone that has experience with aggressive dogs knows that it takes longer than a month to correct the problem.

Not to mention she took it to a trainer when she should have taken it to a certified behavioralist.

And its a wolf pup!!!!!!

I am so sick of these idiots that don;t know what they're getting into when they get a dog!

The poor thing is only 4 months old - it hasn't been taught properly yet.

And my guess is that she probably hit the poor thing to correct it, or when it attacked her she approached it aggressively.

I hope whatever shelter she takes it to will not euthanize the poor thing and instead give it another chance and work with it. Considering it's only 4 months old, it still has a very good chance of being a great dog with some intensive behavioral intervention and training. I guarantee she's taking it to a shelter because she knows no good vet will put down a four month old pup.

She should give it to a rescue....

Answer 7

The owner is at fault here. (On a side note: I think I remember this person bragging about how great wolf-hybrids were a couple weeks ago. She got mad when people told her they are a lot to handle, they are still wild animals, and to leave it to professionals.)

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Answer 8

Poor puppy :(.....

I agree wholeheartedly that there ought to be permits required for these animals in ALL states.  They need to be regarded more as wildlife- not dogs.  Yes, there are people capable of handling them, but they ought to have to meet the same requirements as the folks who run wild animal sanctuaries.  If nothing else, having a thorough "qualification" requirement would dissuade the casual owners who think it'd be cool to own a wolf hybrid as a pet.  

If this was a tiger cub in the same situation, no one would even think to place blame on the TIGER for being a TIGER.  It'd be the ignorance of the owner, the person who thought they could raise a wild animal with absolutely no prior experience.  

Wolf hybrids can't be placed in the same category as a dog, and while they may not have all the traits of a wolf, they require special knowledge.  But you knew that.  :)

As for the pics- that poor thing looks like an underfed coyote, not a wolf pup.  I don't have much first-hand experience with these animals but that pup doesn't look like it was eating well, at all.  

Answer 9

definitely the owner.that is why it is illegal in most states to have wild animals as pets.

Answer 10

That person is an absolute idiot. It's 100% her fault. Few people are prepared for the challenge of owning a wolf hybrid. This is a very unfortunate situation, but that's what happens when someone buys a puppy on impulse and doesn't put enough effort into training. The person says she only took the puppy to 8 training classes. Even for a regular dog that isn't enough to see much of a result. I just hope that when she takes the puppy to the shelter they refuse to euthanize it and instead find it a better home.

edit: I noticed the question was resolved. The asker says they've reconsidered and will take the wolf for more training, and if they still can't handle it will give it to a sanctuary. Hopefully this will end well after all.

Answer 11

Oy Vey!

Well Raven, I already know that YOU'RE intelligent enough to know the answer to this... unlike the owner of this dog -- I use the term 'dog' lightly, as it is not a pure wolf, and in fact, a high content wolf dog.  Yes, more wolf than dog, but I do not like to call wolf dogs of any content "wolves"...   I am not passing off this high content wolf dog as a typical, domesticated dog.  Absolutely not, so please do understand this when I say "dog".

This has been a real tough day today knowing that I may allow another to be euthanized despite my efforts, my suggestions and my offer - to take the dog myself.  This girl is, as far as my honest opinion goes, very stubborn and will not take my advice, it seems.  

I first became her contact a few months ago when she began posting about her dog.  Immediately I was concerned, as I knew what was going to happen but I just couldn't say when.  I wanted to ensure that I was there, hoping to be able to give advice when she needed it, in hopes of keeping this dog OUT of a sanctuary and most of all, keeping it from being euthanized.  And WHEN it came down to it, to help her place this dog when the time came -- as that was inevitable.  Well, it's happened.

So, is this the fault of the owner or the dog?  It's the BREEDER.  This breeder is at fault here for selling this pup to Ally in the first place.  Obviously this breeder is in it for the buck, and that's too bad, because the animal that he claims to love and respect has just been tarnished, once again, because of his selfishness.

Or yes, you can blame Ally here... she purchased a wolf dog without doing ANY research.  This is obvious.  Had she done any research, she would know exactly - without a doubt - how to deal with her dog.  If she doesn't know, then she should sit down on her ***, grab a book on wolves, watch DVD's on wolves, search the internet for all wolf-related information, contact rescue groups and LEARN, as quick as she possibly can, everything there is to know about wolf ecology, and figure it out until she gets it.  She has absolutely NO excuse to WHY she has failed her dog.  NONE.

But Rayven, I did not convince her of anything sweetie.  I suggested a trainer long ago.  I sent her a long, detailed and extremely informative email explaining to her why it is imperitive that she has a trainer who has expereince with wolves... NOT dogs.  Her reply was that she had a trainer who deals with wolves.  That was it.  I knew it was bull right from that moment.

Now this.  I did not convince her of anything.  I did, however, beg her to think this over and to contact me so that I could PERSONALLY find her a foster or get her directly in-touch with a refuge, or take the dog myself.  I left her will choices and not one of the choices I gave her were to euthanize.  I basically told her that I am willing to do whatever it takes ensure this dogs safety and future... at no cost to her.  Did she take my offer?  No, the email I received was "I have talked to a person who has three wolves that are ages 8 weeks-10 yrs old. She has experience with wolves and uses hers as to take to schools for educations and she has a wild life perment i have talked to her and we are working a deal out right now."

No thank-you, no information as to who is taking the dog, no questions and no concern, really...  Compared to all who I've had the opportunity in helping (on Y!A only) either place their wolf dog, find someone for temp. foster placement, training, feeding, containment, etc. suggestions or getting them into a refuge, I have never had one person be so completely vague, unresponsive, uncaring, ungratelful and... COLD!!   I even had one man - a Iraq war vet who was injured - offer me his coin that was presented to him by President Bush!!!  He wanted to present it to ME for helping find placement for his wolf dog.   I've had people show their gratitude... but his was unlike any I have ever had.  But hers... none.  There hasn't been any.  Ever.  

She deserved what she got.  The dog, on the otherhand, deserves someone with a heart and a brain.

Anyhow, I wasn't able to convince her of much, just informed her that if she ends up euthanizing she will put all other wolf dogs in her state at risk by adding to a statistic.  I don't think she cared.  

Her dog will end up paying the ultimate price of her ignornance... but she won't be the last on here, I can assure you of that.

Answer 12

i definitely dont agree with this "dog" being put to sleep, its obvious they had no clue about these hybrid dogs and just wanted it because of how cute it was and how much it looked like a wolf, not even thinking that it has the temperament of a wolf if not trained properly. i think they should find someone that has the proper knowledge and training ability to raise this pup as a great pet, putting it to sleep is just the laziest most irresponsible thing to do, but sad to say is the easiest, and thats what it seems like they are looking for.This is why people need to start doing the research on the dogs they plan on getting whether its a Chihuahua or a Wolf Hybrid, behavior problems will happen if you know nothing of the breed(s), and give up on training after only a month.

Answer 13

All dogs can turn not just hybrids or wolf dogs. All can become aggressive. The dog has to be submissive to it's owner. Not to the extent but a good common ground that's well understood.  

Answer 14

4 month old puppy?  The owner is the issue.... and perhaps the idiot who bred what may or may not be a temperamentally sound animal and then sold it to her.

I wonder about this poor pup.. was it handled adequately from birth, was it removed from its littermates at too young an age.. how was it trained...  this is so sad.

I have a nearly 6 week old litter of pups who are teaching one another bite inhibition... an uneducated person would look at their squabbling and think "aggression"...  

Answer 15

Duh, it's the owners fault. If that asker was a kid, I can understand it being out of their control.

but the adult that has the final say in alal of this needs to take responsibility and at least take it to a wolf rescue.

Murdering a puppy like that is ridiculous. It makes me really hate people.

Answer 16

The owner of course.  The poor dog hasn't had proper training. A wolf hybrid isn't like a "regular" dog.  That is why most people should not own them.

Answer 17

Has the dog always been around humans? Or was he abandon??? I"d say where he's the breed he is, he's going to tend to me more aggressive then a home raised puppy...

and he's going to protect what belongs to him..

Answer 18

The owner,the breeder,the government.Wolf hybrids should not exist.They are too unpredictable,and they all too often end up in the wrong hands and are euthanized like that poor puppy is going to be.She should find a wolf hybrid rescue to take it instead of killing it for acting like it's supposed to act.People get these and expect a teddy bear or something - they don't realize that these are dangerous animals,as they have the high prey drive of the wolf coupled with the fearlessness of the dog.It should be against the law to breed them. Oh,and she has her questions set to private so I can't see the puppy.

Edit: OMG,the pup looks like it's half-starved!!