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Who's right is it anyway?

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Who's right is to say that modern Medicine is right and all other practices are wrong? After all modern science created all disease anyway with the introduction of preservatives and additives, pestisides, animal steroids and anti-biotics, and other lotions, deoderants and creams that are petroleum based. Do you agree that if you weren't exposed to all these (and many more including toxic fumes bla bla bla) you would have a healthy body to resist disease? (and you don't catch a disease anyway - you catch disease as much as you catch health!)

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  1. All you have to do is look at the statin drugs. 26 Billion annually for the drugs, 26 billion for test and dr visits, and maybe double that for all the drugs to treat the side effects. Here is the best part, you will live longer with high cholesterol than with low cholesterol.

    But who gives a thumbs down to anyone who is just venting on a forum of like minded people? I am sure WebMD would be more to their liking.


  2. Lol interesting. I think that as modern medicine's ideas came from idea's from the past then most modern medicine's ideas are not their own.

  3. Yes I agree.  We live in a toxic environment that puts a constant overload on our natural immunities.  Big-pharma continues to poison people with their drugs.  Our health care system in the US is an absolute joke when it is easier for people to go on drugs than it is to find easy natural solutions that deal with diet, exercise and natural supplementation.  Water quality and food quaity are diminishing and I am not even mentioning the threat of genetically modified food sources.  It is a scary world we live in and unfortunatley I think it is going to get worse before it gets better.  Good luck and Good health to you.....

  4. there is an ebb and flow to everything, including health care.  used to be only poor uneducated moms breast fed and the wealthy who were educated and in the know bottled their babies.  Then, the whole thing switched and now it is popular for everyone to breast feed.  Wait awhile and that will change too. Uneducated farmers didn't use pesticides and modern farming methods and time passes and now modern farms are pesticide free and more educated.  History is an interesting thing.  Doesn't pay to get too worked up over anything that is new and improved because sure as shootin', next year it will be killing us.  Remember when drinking bottled water was better?  Not any more!  And time goes on.....

  5. At least in the U.S. the people with the money make the rules.

    They wanted to sell more drugs without worrying about the diseases those drugs might cause, they wanted to keep putting toxic substances into the air, soil and water, because it means higher profits than having to clean up their act.  They wanted to log in protected old growth forests.  So, they bought themselves a president.  

    It worked out pretty well, for them.

  6. Totally agree, I like this from Tim O'Shea:

                                     A Normal Life

    You're born.  You get no drugs and no vaccinations.  During childhood you have the usual illnesses, but conservative treatment gets you through them without antibiotics or drugs, and you build your natural immune defenses.  You don't eat white sugar, white flour, hydrogenated oils, too much meat or cheese, or drink soft drinks or pasteurized milk.  You concentrate on whole grains, fruits, vegetables and a clean, natural diet.  You never learn to drink coffee or to smoke cigarettes.  The only pills you take are natural antioxidants and enzymes and minerals, which are part of your daily intake.  You drink at least 1 liter of water every day.

    Into adulthood, you never get sick: no colds, no flu, no headaches, no diabetes, no ADD, no "thyroid problems", no panic attacks, growing pains, fatigue, or digestive disorders, no high blood pressure.  The only pains you experience come from accidental injury.  Perhaps you do moderate exercise or sports activity to maintain mobility and general fitness.  You look to the care of your spine.  Your entire adulthood is spent in this disease-free mode.  As you age, your mind gets sharper, your body gets stronger, your immune system tougher.  You experience no arthritis, cancer or osteoporosis, no Parkinson's or Alzheimers's.  Finally, one day after 90 or 100 years, you flicker like a candle and go out.

  7. yes, we are exposed to more causes of disease as the world becomes more populated and toxic.  that's not to say that modern medicine doesn't help, but we and only we can alter our lifestyles to be as healthy as possible.  if we didn't have antibiotics, more of us would die of infection.  you don't catch health, you nurture it through clean living.  if we all ate fresh foods vs. processed, didn't smoke, didn't drink in excess, lived in places with cleaner air and avoided other people and infectious disease, we'd still get certain diseases like cancer.  we also continue to evolve and mutate in response to our environment.  who knows how humans will evolve in the millenia to come, but we need to take better care of our world today, knowing that we in the developed countries are contaminating far more than undeveloped countries.

  8. It's a complete myth that traditional medicine is scientifically proven.  Less than 0.01% has been submitted to double-blind studies where subjects are asked whether they received placebo or 'real' treatment.

    This is the standard required of alternative medicine but it is not a level playing field.

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