Who are the REAL feminists?

Question

...Because I see a lot of women here trying to pretend that the anti-male sexists aren't feminists and I'm sure if I asked the sexists, they'd assure me that the "others" were not real feminists if they didn't agree. (http://www.iwf.org/campus/show/19136.html)

Who is right here?

Both sides call themselves "feminists."

How are people supposed to tell the difference?

Why does there seem to be an overwhelming amount of the anti-male sexists in feminism?

Should we pretend not to notice that to appease the supposedly "non-sexist" feminists?

Should we pretend that a group that has a long history of propping women up and disregarding any negative consequences for men is interested in "equality?"

It appears feminists have a lot of "bad apples" and "bad theories" that the rest of society is supposed to ignore.

Answer 1

God knows.

One thing, the 'good' feminists are doing nothing to counter the radical influence, so I think I have little choice but to assume they are misandrists too and they don't care what heppens to men.

When NOW celebrates the influence of Dworkin on feminism, you have to start thinking seriously if feminism is really as pure and virtuous as it is cracked up to be.

When you attack any feminist exposing the sexist laws they've got against men, they always blame the radicals.

Tell you what, they've been blaming the radicals for decades. They're yet to do anything about it. Oh, and they say men must help them.

Sure. Feminism became big because men endorsed it and did something for it. Feminism is alive because men support it. Now that feminism has gone bad, men are supposed to help remove the radicals. So if feminists need the help of the same men they've been calling 'weak' and dissing and bashing for decades, they had better be ready for colourful language and outright denial.

Can feminists do nothing themselves? Why are they making men partly responsible for THEIR radicals? Maybe feminists can do nothing themselves because they aren't all that strong and independent as they like to call themselves to inflate their low self-esteem.

EDIT: To cut a long story short, there is only one type of feminists: the misandrists. The other people (non-feminists/equalists/neutrals/humani... - call them what you will) are not feminists. It is that simple.

I can't go around calling myself an 'innocent n**i' because I hated Jews getting killed. I associated myself with the wrong group, and the neutral eye has no reason to have pity on me. They'll treat me the same as Hitler. Same with feminists.

Answer 2

LOL I hear ya! All I know is, I am NOT a feminist. It's such a confusing label as it means something different to so many people...and as you've shown here it has such negative connotations and associations.

Answer 3

It's been explained here dozens of times: the broad themes are the same, but people choose to interpret either sensibly or to extremes. If you can't work this out, you must be just thick.

Answer 4

I think that most of these women won't say, in real life, what they say on here. Many are sexist against men, but say that they aren't. They are also against submissive women, but say that it is their choice and they cannot judge them, but I know they are liars because of all the thumbs down I get. If they want to prove to me that they are being truthful, I will have to see more thumbs up. Until then, I know that most of them are hypocrites.

Answer 5

Look up the word in the dictionary; that's how you can tell which are the REAL feminists.

The dictionary does NOT say "women who hate men" as the definition of 'feminist' it says

PERSON [emphasis mine] who believes in equal rights between the sexes.

Why is such a simple method not tried? I see questions all the time from people who hate feminism, who've never once looked the term up, and make up all sorts of ugly lies about feminists.

Overwhelming? Uh probably 89% of feminists are of the dictionary definition variety.

Many of them ARE men; many others are married to men.

The only men I hate are those who deny the humanity of big hunks of the human race on imbecilic grounds (a popular one being where a person carries their reproductive organs).

The questionis, why do so many MEN hate all women? That's MUCH more common than women who hate men. And why is it OK for so many men to hate all women; but it's wrong for women to consider themselves human (not hate men, just not think we are inferior)?

Answer 6

Any one who advocates for equality for all huamns can call him or herself a feminist.  Pretty simple, but you men on here need to complicate it.

Answer 7

I think there's no one, single avenue of feminism - it's branched out a lot, into different areas and theories. At the root of most of it is the belief that we are all (or can be) equal. It's just that everyone has conflicting ideas on how we can achieve that.

  Some feminists are sexist. Some are not. Some men are feminists, some women aren't. It's hard to generalize because there's no one single way to BE a feminist, so I can't say "____ is or is not".  

   Feminists have bad apples, but not overwhelmingly so. Like anything, it's the extreme sides that get the attention because they're clamoring for it, so that's what we see as representative. Does the Westboro Baptist Church represent all Christians, or the KKK all Southerners? No way. So seeing someone who's preaching about the complete evils of all men isn't the one voice of feminism. It's certainly not my voice.

Answer 8

All feminists are radicals by action or inaction, just like most germans and n***s were guilty by not opposing the n**i top brass or even reaping the benefits their action might have brough their way.

The Mrs. I think you have a confused idea what feminism is about.

Answer 9

I judge people by their behaviour, not their words. If someone calls themselves a misanthrope but they show kindness to people (e.g. express sadness when they hear of a bombing or earthquake) I just presume that they are confused about the attitude/behaviour distinction when it comes to describing people.

The real feminists are *doing* things e.g. actively promoting feminist ideas in the legal system, universities, media etc and these people have a pro-female/anti-male agenda e.g. http://www.law.fsu.edu/journals/lawrevie... Their activities result in biased research, information being suppressed, and prejudiced laws and regulations being introduced in the West.

I really don't believe that most women on G&WS fully support men being flung in jail because their wives beat them (VAWA) and I don't believe they support the fact that men don't get half the cancer funding that women get http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk...

I also think the vast majority of self-described feminists on G&WS are not active in the feminist movement. Therefore I personally think that most of the G&WS feminsts are 'feminists' in name only and not in behaviour, and are therefore not the real feminsts. But G&WS feminists, if you think you really are the real thing then why don't you log off and go and do something about the people who are spreading hatred and discrimation in your name?

If you think you are a n**i but you balk at shoving people into gas chambers I suggest you think again about how you describe yourself.

Answer 10

i think the anti-male, man-bashing feminists are young or not very advanced in their study of feminism.  feminism seeks to attain equality in opportunities and recognition, so that means feminism wants women to be able to hold whatever job they choose for as much money as a man would be paid.  then, that women should be named or given recognition in an office meeting is she makes a good idea just like a man would. feminists realize that our current society also hurts men by forcing them to bottle their emotions and in general oversexing them.  the feminists who think that feminism is about hating men are drawn to the ideology because they might be hurt, and they buy into myths.  the feminists you attack so vigorously are the feminists who haven't really read up on both sides and who don't know how to defend the arguments - they are the people who think they know what the word means and hide behind it.  so really, the myths build onto each other.  anti-feminists portray the movement as about hating men, real feminists try to explain the answer, and "new" feminists or people who are not well versed in the idea want to rebel and agree with the man-hating stereotype.  if one side would just stop buying into the idea, then this myth would end.