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Who are the better Super Stars and are more COMPLETE?

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Pavel Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg or Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin?

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  1. does Crosby and/or Malkin spend any significant time on the penalty kill?

    i think they have some great offensive talent.

    didn't LITY say that Datsyuk leads the league in takeaways? the two wings players happen to lead their team in points ... but also happen to be Selke finalists. (that usually isn't a "team" award)


  2. No question Hank and Pavs are the most complete.  They are also the best of that group of four.  Malkin is definitely close and someday will be even better.  Crosby however has never impressed me.  Now I say this because my expectations of him are VERY high.  The media has hyped him SOOO much that when I watch him I expect to see a dominating force out there.  I just don't see it.  I see a great player, but not the player everyone talks him up to be.

    Also I think Pittsburgh fans really have never seen Hank and Pavs play.  They don't really understand what these two bring to the table.  They just plain dominate the puck.  The Pens fans, along with the rest of the world have been brainwashed into believing Crosby is the BEST player out there.  His marketability is a product of him being Canadian, his hype, and the fact that the NHL wanted a face to put to the new NHL.  Lost is the fact that there are BETTER players out there.  Datsyuk and Zetterberg are two of those players.

    You can say all you want about bias, because I am a Wings fan, but its not bias, it is fact.  I have seen plenty of Pens games the last three years, VS. for some reason likes to air them (especially when they play Washington), hhmmmm... hype???     I also can say I have watched around 1000 hockey games in the last 11 years.  I know good hockey players when I see them.  I can list a lot  better forwards than Crosby, besides Datsyuk and Zetterberg.

    Right now I would choose at least 5 forwards before Crosby if I was making my dream team.

    In no particular order...

    Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Iginla, Ovechkin, Malkin, Morrow (great leader and hardest working player ever, +great talent).

    As far as i have seen, Crosby is a GREAT playmaker, and a good or decent everything else.  Hank and Pavs are the guys you want on the ice in EVERY situation.  One key stat is also faceoff dominance.  I believe Zetterberg won 16 of 19 in Game 5.  Zetterberg 57.9%, Datsyuk 55.8% in the playoffs.  Crosby 49.0%, Malkin 41.4%.  This is going to be huge in this series... also put in Draper's mind blowing 63.4%.  

    WINGS IN 5.

  3. Crosby hands down is the best "SUPER STAR".

    Whom is the most COMPLETE?....I would say Datsyuk.

    Honestly there are many players that are way MORE COMPLETE than the ones that you had listed. As an example:   I'm not a Calgary fan, but Jerome Iginla is one of the best ALL AROUND players.  He can score, he is superb at the "set-up", offense, defense, in the locker room, to the media, and......he can actually fight!

  4. The key word being complete, Datsyuk and Zetterberg are defensive stars as much as offensive.  In a few years Crosby and Malkin might be as good, if they become more two-way players, but right now, no contest.

  5. Like the guy above - Complete is the key. Crosby and Malkin are certainly talented players, but they are not near as complete as Datsyuk & Zetterberg. D & Z can do anything and everything, offense, defense, PK, PP, skills passing, scoring, etc, etc. C & M may be there some day, but not right now.

  6. People are going to be biased when they answer this question based on who their fav. team is.  Sorry, I have to say Malkin and Crosby.  And the thing to remember about Sid and Geno is that they have all of this talent at such a young age.  They are just going to get better and better the longer they play together.  Plus, have Datsyuk and Zetterberg ever been compared to Jagr and Lemieux or Gretzky and Messier among others?  I don't think so :)  GO PENS!!

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