Who are the natives israelis or palestinians?

Question

as far as i know that israelis are jews from europe, usa, russia, asia and middle east.

while Palestinian's grand fathers were the jews who lived there who converted to Christianity then to islam

Answer 1

They all are "native". Israel is not a nation of immigrants, but has a policy of allowing people to "return to the homeland" as it were. But they don't have any moral right to be there any more than the Palestinians do. If anything, the land was ganked from the Palestinians by the UN and then given to create the Israeli state.

It's either everyone has a right, or nobody does. They all are from the same area.

Answer 2

You are more or less right about the Israelis.

As for the Palestinians, they are not the descendants of jews.  there have always been non-Jews in those lands.  First the Caananites and Philistines, and than the populations brought in by the Assyrians to inhabit the former northern kingdom of Israel, which fell to Assyria 722 BC.

Answer 3

both because it was the jews' land before the romans scattered them in europe and it is also the palestinians' because they lived there for some hundreds of years after the jews were taken away

in sum the jews lived there first around three thousand years ago, then they were expulsed by the romans, then the palestinians came, then the jews came back

Answer 4

The original peoples in the area were all of the Semetic language group-Arabs, Phonecains, Abaens, Nabataens etc.

Add several layers of immigration, like the Ottoman Turks, assorted Armenians, the Mongols etc, and at least three waves of religious zealots (eg Crusades, Islam) and you got the polyglot communities ruled by the Ottomans and then the "Young Turk" reformers.

In the late 19th and early 20th century, many Jewish migrants, backed by foriegn cash, started buying up land in what is now Israel-the start of the most recent wave of immigration. The Ottomans were reasonably pluralist-an essential policy given the diversity of their empire-abd you could worship whatever diety you liked, but if it wasn't Allah you paid higher taxes. When you're financed by the Zionist movement around the world then you don't have to worry about that!

Israel is the last colony, a holdover of the 18th century mentality of take what you want and shameless force against the local population. It is far from pluralist or secular, with a hard core of religious fanatics holding a powerful influence over policy.

Don't worry, the Israelis are about to start another war, this time with Iran, who definitely wont back down and are prepared to attack Israel and its ally (which has recently admitted sending special forces into Iran) with what will be a suprising array of asymmetrical and conventional attacks. It's about to get very,very nasty-expect it before November!

Answer 5

There were and ARE  no "palestinians".  That is a word made up by the Romans and adopted later by England and U.N.

The West Bank was part of Jordan.  Those people were and ARE Jordanian, but tyhe Jordaninas don't want them.  The Gaza Stip was Egyptian, but the Egyptiand son't want them.  The rest of the Moslem world just wants an issue to complain about, so they leave their own people in "limbo" so they can continue to kill Jews.  The only thing that they have to do is stop killing, and the Isralis could stop defending themselves.  Their "holy warriors" and "Heroes" could stop hiding behind children in Gaza and the West Bank and there would be no innocent collateral damage from Isreali attacks.

Answer 6

The "homeland " position is total BS.

Jews and Palestinians lived side by side for generations without incident but then the jews went Diaspora,.

Effectively they went in search of better things without abdicating their rights in "their " homeland.

It was only after the holocaust when the UN was involved that they were inflicted back into their "homeland" which many generations had shunned for profit , wealth and  personal gain in the European areas and returned.

Many jews had never seen Israel before this forced emigration but all of a sudden decided this was "home".

Unlike their forefathers they did not want to share the land ..instead they wanted it all at the expense of the people(Palestinians) who had kept the land going even though the Jews abandoned it .

America   being politically correct courted the jew ( who incidentally runs their banks, financial sectors and Hollywood) and decided to,support them in their desire to form a new "Israel" . The land that their God gave them and they abandoned for greed by the way.

The only saving grace Israel has is that the many groups who hate them cannot work together, FACT, if the militias of Jordan, Syria ,Egypt, Lebanon , and those on the Gaza strip were to unite in a common cause Israel would cease to exist.

Apart from Saudi Israelia which is the 53rd State of the USA, a coalition of middle eastern counties would see American interest withered  ( they cannot even gain control in Iraq after 5 years), Israel annihilated and a whole new world map.

Iran is begging g for an excuse to wipe Israel off the map, as soon as it start a whole new generation of Arabs will rise up in support . Given how Israel got its arrrrrse kicked by hezbollah in Lebanon in the last couple of years,

America will be a minor inconvenience just like in iraq