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Who believes that MIRZA QADYANI was a prophet ? And who believes that accepting mirza a prophet is a KUFR ?

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@ Abul Harith

Can you plz confirm and bring a reference

That A big scholar said that a person who claims to be a prophet is KAFIR and any one who ask him to show the sign of prophethood is also KAFIR ,Bcoz its already defined that there is no prophet after MOHAMMAD (SAW)

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  1. I don't belive that!!

    I also,i dn't hate Q1factor..very polite persons,unlike some yellers here ..haha


  2. Millions of muslims believe that Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmed was the promised Messiaha and Imam Mehdi. Quran says that all the prophets are Imam Mehdi who  are directed by God to follow and propogate the teachings of his predecessor prophet.As far as those who believe that accepting Mirza Sahib is Kufar shall be pardonable if they did so as they were not honestly convinced but please mind the mullah know that Mirza Sahib is true prophet and came at the appropriate but he cannot reliquish his religious superiority.  

  3. I beleive Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian as the same Mahdi and the Messeih foretold by Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him).

    And I beleive that accepting him is obeying the Holy Prophet (saw).

    I consider myself fortunate to have been blessed by Allah and to able to see the truth.

    So said the promised Messieh (as):

    We are Musalmans. We believe in the One God without a partner and in the Kalima, La Illah Ill-Allah. We believe in the Book of God, the Quran, in His Messenger Muhammad (peace on him and God's blessings) the Khatam Al-Anbiya. We believe in angels, the resurrection, h**l and paradise. We observe the prescribed prayers and the fast. We turn to the Qibla for prayers and forbid ourselves what is forbidden by God and His Prophet and permit ourselves what is permitted. We add not a thing to the Sharia, nor subtract any thing from it. The Sharia is above change. Whatever has come down to us from the Holy Prophet (on whom peace and God's blessings), all that we accept, whether we understand or not and whether we can unravel its secrets and real meaning or not. We are believers with the Grace of God, and strict monotheist Muslims.

    (Nur al-Haq I, pg. 5)

    @Az. I appreciate your rationale analysis. This is exactly what Ahmadis point of view that no law bearing prophet can come aftre Muhammad (saw). The religion (islam) has been perfected.

    However, I am surprised how you concluded that Hadhrat Ahmad (as) cliamed to have brought new law. I pasted above lines directly from his book (translation).......read again it says "We add not a thing to the Sharia, nor subtract any thing from it. The Sharia is above change"

    I guess you have over looked the passage.

    May Allah have mercy!

    @ person below Az

    Al-Nahl Chapter 16 : Verse 37

    "Then among them were some whom Allah guided and among them were some who became deserving of ruin. So travel through the earth and see what was the end of those who treated the prophets as liars!"

    YaSin Chapter 36 : Verse 31

    Alas for my servants! there comes not a Messenger to them but they mock at him.

  4. Hi Qadianis/Ahmedis its me Mirza Ghulam Ahmed - the guy you claim is a Prophet. Im speaking to you from h**l where I will burn for all eternity for claiming that I was a Prophet after Muhammed (saw).

    I beseech you not to follow me to eternal hellfire. I am not a Prophet. You must reject that I am a Prophet and accept Islam and that the Prophet Muhammed (sallAllahu alayhi waslaam) was the LAST FINAL prophet and messenger of Allah

    Before Allah SWT send me to eternal h**l he caused me to die on the can with sh*t coming out of my mouth. Isnt that a sign enough for you people?

  5. 1st answerer, we dont dislike user 1fact. in fact i like him, he is a nice person.

    I believe whoever accept Mirza Gulam Qadiani as a prophet is a Kafir.

  6. I believe he was a Prophet because the Qur'an and Hadeeth testify to it, along with many signs by Allah.

    No I don't believe one is a kafir by accepting the Imam Mahdi and Messih sent by Allah.

    Allah bless you brother with His eternal light! :)

    love for all, hatred for none

  7. As a non-Muslim I have learned to trust 1qfactor as a reliable and fairly objective source of opinion, especially since Ramadan is a religious forum,  He has even posted sites to assist people whom do not indiscriminately holler "kafir" when someone is seeking whether or not they have heard a lie about Muslim convictions.  I am quite convinced Allah is one of the names of the same God I worship is known by and thus far have found agreements with my Muslim friends; just not familiar enough with all the beliefs or the Arabic culture which brought these teachings to my attention to think about conversion and would need to study further  if I were ever to decide on that.

  8. Dear,

    Peace upon you.

    In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.

    You yourself knows the answer that there's no Prophet after Prophet and Apostle of Al-Mighty God Allah Subhanahu Wata'ala Prophet Muhammad Sallallahhu'alaihi Wassalam. Therefore why are you asking in this category Ramadan. Of course it is Kafir for taking other than Prophet Muhammad as Prophet.

    Thank you.

    Wabillahhitaufiq Walhidayah Wassalamu'alaikum Warahmatullahhi Wabarakatuh.

  9. why u judging? dont u know judging is haram.. CHI CHI..

    just believe in ur believes and stop worrying about others..

  10. No. He was NOT a prophet. Neither was he a messenger of God. Any muslim who believes in another prophet or messenger AFTER Muhammad(saw) IS a DISBELIEVER. This person has indeed gone against quran and hadith, and specifically against the prophet's loast sermon whereby he told us: ".......O people......No prophet will come after me......"

    I have already answered several questions on this topic. Refer to my full answer at this link:

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

    IS IT KUFR???????

    Well, lets examine.....

    Kufr basically means to disbelieve in ANY of the articles of faith in Islam. The articles of faith are:

    1. Allah

    2. His angels

    3. His apostles

    4. His revealed bookS

    5. The judgement day

    6. Fate/ Destiny

    So if someone believes that Mirza was a prohet, then HE IS IN FACT MAKING KUFR as per the foolowing articles of faith:

    1. Allah

    He does not believe in Allah in general as he disbelieves what the quran said, that is, Muhammad is the last messenger of Allah.

    See further or from link for more info on "last messenger".

    2. His apostles

    He disbelieves Muhammad(saw) when he said, during his last sermon: ".......O people..... No prophet shall come after me......."

    3. His revealed books.

    As mentioned earlier he disbelieves in what the quran said concerning Isa(pbuh), and also, REMEMBER that NOWHER in the quran, the name of Mirza appears, whereas that of Muhammad does appear. So, the quran DOES NOT acknowledge Mirza. Furthermore, people who believe in Mirza disbeliev in the quran when it comes to the ayat where Allah says: ".......This day have I PERFECTED your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion." (5:3).

    From the above ayat, we can deduce that no new laws/news/revelation will be recievd from Allah. Yet, Mirza did it, and pretended to be a messenger.

    May Allah reserve for him a harsh punishment for his 'extreme' bid'ah!!!

    May Allah guide us all. Hope that this answer will be helpful.

    Wassalaam,

    Your brother in islam,

    Az


  11. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and the Qadiyani Sect

    AUTHOR: Imaam Muhammad Naasir-ud-Deen Al-Albaanee

    SOURCE: Al-‘Aqeedah At-Tahaawiyyah – Sharh wa Ta’leeq (pg. 39-40)

    PRODUCED BY: Al-Ibaanah.com

    The Prophet (sallAllaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) informed his ummah in many ahaadeeth, advising and cautioning them, that there would be many imposters (Dajjaaleen) after him. In some narrations, he (sallAllaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) said: “Everyone will claim to be a prophet, whereas I am the seal of the prophets – there being no prophet after me.” [Reported by Muslim and others; See al-Ahaadeeth as-Saheehah: no. 1683]

    Amongst these imposters was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Al-Qadiyani who claimed prophethood for himself. He has followers spread throughout India, Germany, England and America. And they have masaajid which they use to misguide the Muslims. There were some individuals amongst them in Syria as well, but Allaah uprooted them and eradicated them.

    They have many vile beliefs apart from their belief that prophethood continued after Muhammad (sallAllaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam). The one who preceded them in this belief is Ibn ‘Arabee, the Sufi. They have authored a treatise on this subject in which they have collected statements from him that serve as support for this afore-mentioned belief of theirs. And the mashaayikh were not able to refute it because it was from that which Ibn ‘Arabee said (!!) even though they asserted with certainty that they were disbelievers. There is no room to mention their beliefs here.

    No doubt they are the ones whom the Messenger of Allaah intended when he (sallAllaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) said in the hadeeth that has been authentically reported from him: “There will be lying impostors during the Last Days that will bring you narrations, which neither you nor your forefathers heard of. So beware and let them beware, lest they misguide you and bring calamity upon you.” [Reported by the author (i.e. At-Tahaawee) in Mushkil-ul-Athaar (4/104). It is also found in Saheeh Muslim (1/9)]

    From their most distinguishing signs is that when they begin speaking about their Call (i.e. beliefs), before everything, they start out with affirming the death of ‘Eesaa (Jesus). When they are able to accomplish this – according to their perception – they proceed onto the next level, which involves mentioning the ahaadeeth that talk about the descent of ‘Eesaa, and make it clear that that they believe in these narrations. However, they then quickly move on to distorting their meanings by claiming that what is meant by them is the descent of someone similar to ‘Eesaa (Jesus), since they have already established and confirmed – according to their views – that ‘Eesaa (Jesus) died. So they claim that this person was Ghulam Ahmad Al-Qadiyani!

    They have many, many other examples of distorting texts similar to this, which leads us to believe that they are a group from amongst the heretical Baatinees. We will point out some of their deviant beliefs soon by the Will of Allaah.

    From the misguided beliefs of the Qadiyanis is that they reject the Jinn as being a creation apart from mankind. So they distort the apparent meaning of all the ayaat and ahaadeeth that clearly prove their existence and their distinction from mankind amongst creation, instead claiming that these texts refer to humans themselves or a specific group from amongst mankind. This is even the case with Iblees (i.e. the Devil) himself as they allege that he was a human being that was evil! So how misguided they are!!

    Published: January 31, 2006

  12. It's not up to you bunch of Muslims to decide who is a Kafer and who's not !!

  13. Look we all know you dislike the1qfactor no need to spell it out to us.

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