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Who do you believe, science or the Bible? And, where is the tree of life?

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Science is now sayng that man has a life expectancy of about 120 years, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_lifespan. In addition, the Bible in Gen 6:3 also states that man shall live "one hundred and twenty years." Who should I believe, science or the Bible?

But the real question is, where is the tree of life? According to the Bible, Gen3:22, if we "take also of the tree of life, and eat" we will live forever.

Can we find the "tree of life" in a glass of red wine, a bottle of vitamins, or in the food that we eat?

If I find the "tree of life" and eat of its fruit, does that mean I will stop aging, or regain a youthful appearance? How young could I possibly become?

And what about my dog? I love my dog. I would want her to live forever as well.

Please help me to understand the science of the Bible.

Thanks!

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  1. the tree of life is anything that helps u live longer. there is a part of the world (cant remember where) that all the people live well over 100, and they r still all young and happy and healthy when they r asked whats the secret to a long life, they mostly say being happy and having fun, most drink red wine or beer or some other form of alcohol almost everyday, they still keep active by working (on farms and stuff), what ever they do seems to work. it might also have to do with the place they actually live, like the climate affects them in a way.

    eating the tree of lifes "fruit" will not make u younger, just live longer so u will still age, just not die, but that doesnt mean u will look horrible and ugly and wrinkly i mean those people i was just talking about they dont look very old at all.

    but dogs naturally live shorter than humans, isnt it like 7 human years to one dog years? so by the time u r 120, ur dog is like..... 840 i think. dogs only live to about 15 years at the most, and thats a long life.

    as for which to believe, there is nothing to say that u cant believe both. the bible came first, and the bible has predicted many things that have already happened. science has only ever confirmed most things.  


  2. > "Science is now sayng that man has a life expectancy of about 120 years"

    This is theoretically possible.

    > "In addition, the Bible in Gen 6:3 also states that man shall live "one hundred and twenty years."

    Yes, but is also states that Old Testament characters lived much longer than that: Adam lived 930 years; his son Seth lived 912 years; Seth's son Lamech lived 777 years, Lamech's son Noah lived 950 years, Noah's son Shem lived 600 years, Shem's son Arphaxad lived 438 years, Arphaxad's son Salah lived 403 years. Abraham, lived 175 years. Moses lived 120 years. And so on...

    > "According to the Bible, Gen3:22, if we "take also of the tree of life, and eat" we will live forever."

    This is a myth, or an allegory. There is no "tree of life".

    If you are interested in scientific ideas for increased longevity, then read up on Aubrey de Grey and his field of "engineered negligible senescence"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_de_G...

    (be aware, however, that this field is NOT well-accepted in scientific circles)

    As for your dog. This field is theoretically univerally-applicable. So you could also give your dog any treatment devised, and get an immortal dog too.


  3. The bible also says people used to live to be 900 years old, that dragons and witches exist, the earth is less than 10,000 years old, the earth is flat and square, and so on and so on...

    You sure you want to take your understanding of the world from a book written by primitives who thought every animal in the world lived within walking distance of Noah's house?

  4. Skip the bible, read a comic book since that is the same level as the bible and much more entertaining. There is no science in the bible, it is a work of propaganda to support a religious agenda sort of like mein kamp is a work of propaganda to support Hitler. Whatever the bible says is just a lot of c**p that people a long time ago believed or made up so they could dupe others into believing. Think about that jesus guy they are so nuts about. He was so popular in his time that NO ONE wrote down a detailed chronicle of his life so all we have to rely on as to his mere existance is some trite and mostly made up stories (turn water to wine, walk on water, etc - a bunch of cheap tricks that any two bit magician can do). Remember that the bible was written for people who had no idea what a TV was, or a plane or relativity or quantum mechanics, or any of millions of other things. The book was written to impress these people but now days it can only impress those who have "faith". We know, for example, that the story of the flood comes from the Babylonians and other ancient cultures had flood myths. And look at other things. Christmas for example. As far as anyone can tell christ was born around easter maybe (again I will point out that his birth was so important to the people of the time that they did not even see fit to record the exact date and time it happened) so why do they celebrate his birth in december? because as christianity moved into northern europe they needed a way for the pagans to keep their winter solstice festival and the church people came up with christmas (not realizing that people some day would be smart enough to see through the scam). The whole history of the church as they tell  it is mostly lies and half-truths. Religion is just another of those things that makes man superior (image of god and all that nonsense) or special in some way. Such beliefs may have been necessary to ignorant people but they should have no place in society today except I also believe that Marx was correct in his appraisal of religion. Religion is something that people need when their lives are unhappy and unfullfilled like so many peoples lifes are. And don't listen to that "religion is the opiate of the people" stuff because that is a statement taken totally out of context. Marx is referring to the fact that people, when their life is sad, brutal, monotonous, etc will turn to religion like a crutch to help them get through just as a drug addict will turn to a drug to help him endure the pain of living. Marx has been much maligned by propaganda directed against countries that professed to be communist but that in no way met the criteria that Marx himself outlined as the logical progression leading up to a communist state. But I will stop here and let you find these things out for yourself by doing some research.

    You can not live forever even if there were a tree of life. You could live for a long time but eventually the universe would end one way or another and that is something you can not escape. You can not stop aging since it partly depends on random chemical reactions in your body and other things that are beyond your control. Perhaps someday DNA can be engineered that will greatly extend life but that day is far off and would not work for you since there is no way to replace all the DNA within your body.

  5. Please Read: John17:3

    “With rejoicing you people will go forth, and with peace you will be brought in. The mountains and the hills themselves will become cheerful before you with a joyful outcry, and the very trees of the field will all clap their hands. Instead of the thicket of thorns the juniper tree will come up. Instead of the stinging nettle the myrtle tree will come up. And it must become for Jehovah something famous, a sign to time indefinite that will not be cut off.”—Isa. 55:12, 13.

    This growth of true Christians like “trees of righteousness” is in our earthly estate that was once desolated by Babylonish enemies. It has become something famous for Jehovah, whose name has been called upon these spiritual trees. This growth of such strong, fruitful, beautiful trees in the spiritual paradise must serve as an unfailing sign. It is a sign of the Kingdom, that God’s kingdom is reigning and is pouring down its blessings upon those who submit to it even now before the battle of Armageddon. Yes, this restored spiritual paradise that is flourishing before Armageddon is a sign in the midst of all the enemy nations that Jehovah God has taken his great power and has begun ruling as king by his enthroned, anointed Son Jesus Christ. This sign, Jehovah declares, “will not be cut off.” How strengthening this assurance is!

    God has confidence in us. It is our responsibility to do what we can by the help of his spirit to see that this sign is not cut off, that his will may come to pass on earth. This we must do by maintaining our spiritual paradise according to the divine will. Only by doing so will those of the remnant prove worthy to “eat of the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.”—Rev. 2:7.

    28 Since the setting up of the heavenly kingdom in 1914 and since the coming of Jehovah and his Messenger of the covenant, Jesus Christ, to the spiritual temple in 1918, the dead apostles and other spirit-begotten Christians who died faithful prior to those events have been resurrected. Jesus was used to resurrect these world conquerors from the dead. (John 6:54-57) Thus Jesus granted to these victorious Christians to “eat of the tree of life” in the heavenly paradise of God. In their resurrection they were clothed with immortality and incorruption. The great Source of such immortality and incorruption is Jehovah God; and thus, by Jesus Christ who is “the way,” they have come to the great figurative “Tree of Life,” Jehovah, and from him they have received the reward of heavenly immortality and incorruption. In the garden of Eden, if Adam had stayed faithful and been permitted to eat of the earthly tree of life in the middle of the garden, it would have meant his receiving from God the grant of the right to eternal human life, along with the guarantee that such right would be protected and preserved. So too with regard to eating of the heavenly Tree of Life in the paradise of God. It means partaking of the reward of heavenly, spiritual immortality and incorruption from the only source of “life and incorruption,” Jehovah, the “King of eternity, incorruptible, invisible, the only God.”—1 Cor. 15:50-54; 1 Tim. 1:17; 2 Tim. 1:10.

  6. firstly the tree of life isnt really a tree, its just a representation of jesus. An d if you follow jesus you will have eternity...

    the debate between science and religion can go on forever (even after the world has ended), its upto to you what you feel is right, sometimes you cant have all the answers but rather depend on faith.

    many of the people in the old testament lived to 900 years old because their way of counting time was completely different to what is was today!!

    some things are so incomprehensible to the human mind that somethings dont make sense... but because they dont then doesnt mean they arent real or right, its just that we dont understand them, which is why religous people have faith, they have accepted that..

    by the way you dont have to feel unfullfilled to find religion, its something you find and then realise it fits!!!

    i wouldnt ask people this question, i have and its caused many fights

  7. i always say why not believe in both?

  8. The oldest confirmed individual at death was Jeanne Calment, who died at 122 years and 164 days.  She broke Genesis 6:3.

    Lifespans have been increasing throughout history. There's no reason to think they'll stop at 120 just because an ancient book says so.

  9. The crown of ones head is called "Calvary" in Latin, I believe, and there are "horns" in one's brain. If one look at a dissected cerebellum, the ramifications in the center look like a tree, some cultures believe that heaven and God are within our own bodies.

    Taking a profound effort to study anatomy, in its Latin origin, and make comparison of the terms used in the religious stories and believes, there may be similarities that may lead to the question of "Is religion a simpler way to describe things that related to historical actions, to ancient peoples that may not be today as they were then due to the eaten of the tree of life? Could this still be practiced in the mist of us in the name of religion, and people be essentially sacrificed for the purpose of eternal life?

  10. the science of the Bible.

    you made a paradox on your own, congratulations

  11. You all that you cannot answer you must leave to blind faith, cause though all the people who choose science over religion started with Darwin and he could not explain how evolution started only what happened and why

  12. Believe in the bible. All of those students of Scientology will be praying on their death beds and I'll bet on it.

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