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Who do you think has a more satisfying quality of life, Traditional women(wives mothers) or feminists?

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It seems feminists are always discontent, complaining , fighting , and protesting, while wives and stay at home moms seem reasonably content .

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  1. My mother is a traditional woman/housewife and absolutely supports full equality between males and females in all situations. She would never have it any other way.

    I think you are crazy.

    I also know plenty of mothers who work full time, have traditional views, support equal rights and are content/have happy families.

    I'm sorry that you appear to live in a one dimensional sheet of paper, but the world, my friend... is round.


  2. You like most men do not know what feminism is .Many feminist are wives and mothers. That is just two of the jobs that they do well. When they complain they have a reason. Unlike most men who who make complaining especially about women a life style.

  3. Untamed:

    How do you even find out if feminist have better s*x?

    Is there some kind of meter that you stick on your head board that goes up more for feminist more so than traditional women? lol!

    Until we have something like that, I will not believe what you say! :p

    Tangerine:

    I agree with what you said, but one thing is that if a feminist didn't want to be a wife and mother, she shouldn't get married and have children before deciding. So many women think they want that, but once they have it they seek out a career because they just want to feel independent. They use their career as an excuse to get away. Unless their job is needed financially.

    If a woman has a child and doesn't NEED to work, she shouldn't leave her child to be raised by the daycare. It is her child and her responcibility.

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    I do think that the majority of traditional women are more content and fullfilled than the average feminist, but that isn't always the case. Sometimes there are women who are verbally and physically abused by their husbands and are afraid to do anything other than be his slave. Thats is not being submissive because subission is what a wife does out of the love and willingness of her heart toward her husband.

    PS- I still love you, Untamed Rose! :)

    EDIT @ Untamed: I also don't believe you about divorce rates being higher in traditional realtiondhips. I think it is higher in realtionship where the woman and man aren't taking the time to what makes the other happy. A marriage is about loving and serving one another, not seeking out self-happiness.

    EDIT @ Untamed again: I have personal experiance also. We have s*x at LEAST 6 time a week and I o****m EVERY TIME! It is very satisfying.

  4. The reason why feminists are seemingly "always discontent, complaining, fighting, and protesting" is because despite all of that we have achieved, we still sometimes have to fight to get the same opportunities and rights as men, plus we have to fight negative stereotypes and double standards. If some wives and stay-at-home moms "seem reasonably content", good for them! However, being a wife or a mother isn't for everyone, and it's for that reason that we need to keep fighting to ensure that we aren't pressured into fulfilling societal expectations that don't take into account individual rights or preferences.

  5. I think whatever lifestyle choice a woman makes - traditional (SAHM) or feminist (assuming feminist means professional woman) - the ones who are happiest are the ones who weren't forced into the role but chose it.

  6. Whatever the individual prefurs.  Some working women look down on stay at home mom's while some stay at home mom's look down on working mothers.  There is no right answer, we just have to accept eachothers choices and respect them.

  7. Protesting for something doesn't mean you're not an overall happy person, and NOT protesting doesn't mean you are. Feminists are no happier or unhappier than any other women.

    Furthermore, most feminists are married or in relationships and have children, and a good many have been homemakers. Stop putting up walls.

  8. from my personal observations... many stay at home mom's/wives are feminists.

    feminism is a philosophy not an occupation.  and i would sy that most feminists are happy, but only because most people are happy.

  9. I as a feminist, having been a wife and mother, have had a very happy life.  

    After all of these months on this forum and you still don't understand feminism!

  10. they are not mutually exclusive groups.  a feminist does not by definition have to hate men and everything related to playing the "woman's role".  they simply want equal rights and treatment.  sometimes they take it too far, but i would argue that sometimes "traditional" women take their roles too far too!  (submitting 100% to their men, not seeing themselves as equals, etc.)

    but i agree that getting upset bc someone says "chairman" instead of "chairperson" is wasting their energy on being angry.  sometimes you just gotta relax.

  11. If a lifestyle or choice doesn't make you happy, it seems to me that change would be in order.

    Most people, it seems - no matter how much they complain - are living the lives of their choosing.  It may not be the ideal, but there are all kinds of choices...and people make them daily.

    I know that I am much happier to be out of 'the grind', but that may not be the best move for others.  Quality of life is truly subjective...so I don't know if you can make a choice as to whose life is more satisfying...

  12. Traditional women are happiest when they have a happy marriage and a happy family.

    Feminists who may have come from dysfunctional family situations are happier when they are out of those situations, but I suspect are not as contented as those who have had good home lives.

  13. Feminist have better s*x!  Ha!

    Well the opposite to this is a point I've been trying to make as far as relationships go.  

    Feminist relationship (not necessarily a person defined as a feminist) but a couple who are equal in the relationship's decisions, work, and are partners.

    In comparison to a traditional, where the husband is always the head of the house hold, makes the decisions etc.

    By definition the feminist relationship is a healthier one.  The risks of divorce increase in a traditional relationship.  And then there is that s*x satisfaction thing...yup feminist relationships won that as well.

    Personally, I cant speak for all feminist...my life has ups and downs but over all it's been pretty d**n good.  If feminism has caused me any hardship, I suppose I could blame it for my ambitions and refusal to stay in my place.  Which hasn't always been the easy path in life, but then I wouldn't have ever done all that I've done in my life either.

    Proud: there was a study comparing how many times a week, satisfaction survey, and orgasms the couples reaches...I gave ya the link last time we argued about this :P  

    besides then there is personal experience...So HA.

  14. <shrugs> I'm an anti-feminist stay at home mom; come to think of it I just had a fun go at playing Solitaire 3 times in a row and to my heart's content I delightfully lost 3 times as well.

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