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Who feels Nastia Liukin was cheated out of a gold medal?

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Who feels Nastia Liukin was cheated out of a gold medal?

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  1. Of course!  When there is a tie in any other competition for first place, two gold medals are handed out!  This is a blatant attack on America by the Chinese who are manipulating the judges.


  2. Doy.

  3. guys, all of you, please, stop whining... first of all, there is an INTERNATIONAL panel of judges, not Chinese, so there cant be any cheating, and second of all, you know they cant change anything, so why keep crying about it.


  4. Okay, I watched and must agree with Useless... the Medals were right just the two gymnasts from China actually should have swapped.

    Good programming last night.

    How about the Gold, Silver and Bronze in the Mens 400 m Hurdles

    GO USA!!

  5. I can't stand any of the American gymnasts...and this is coming from an American. Call me a traitor or whatever, but I really don't care. I'm happy that the Chinese won. Of course I wanted the Romanians to win, but we aren't what we used to be. .

  6. i feel this is the 10000000th time this question was asked and the judging was fair and you just anothe american who make the rest look like whiners

  7. I do. The gymnastics this year is nothing more than a sham. Many talented athletes have undeservedly lost the gold to an underage Chinese girl.  

  8. About the uneven bars finals controversy here are a few facts that ought to set things into perspective:

    1) Nastia Liukin (US) deserved a higher score than He Yekin (China) based on the fact that she carried out her routine with less mistakes which should have led to less deductions. Both routines carried the same degree of difficulty (marked out of 17.7), yet both gymnasts tied with a joint score of 16.725.

    2) Yank Yilin (China) was only awarded a score of 16.650 when her routine carried the same degree of difficulty as Nastia Liukin's (US) and He Yekin's (China), plus she also executed the routine much better than both these gymnasts. If anything she was the one who was most entitled to complain and who experienced the most injustice from the judges, and even when awarded a Bronze medal instead of a Gold, as she actually deserved, she did not kick up any fuss and has almost being left out of the picture.

    3) Nastia Liukin was born from 2 Russian parents, both of whom competed in past USSR (Russia) Olympics. Nastia Liukin moved with her parents at 2 and half years old (1992) to America to escape the Soviet Union. This fact makes it lucky that Nastia Liukin could even perform on behalf of the American team rather than the Russian, like both her parents did.

    4) Ideally, if the scores were awarded by the judges correctly, the results should have been:

    Yang Yilin (China)- GOLD

    Nastia Liukin (US)- SILVER

    He Yekin (China)- BRONZE

    If anything, the right colour medals were awarded to the correct countries, athough the two Chinese gymnasts should have swooped places. Either way, Nastia Liukin's (US) rightful medal result would remain unchanged with a silver.

    These are the facts that nothing can change. On another day, perhaps, the gymnasts may have performed differently ans so the medals would not have gone to the same countries. That's just how it was on that day.

    If anyone is in any doubt or disbelief feel to review the video evidence: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00...

    It is undeniable.

  9. Here is how the tie was broken:

    Originally, the scores are determined by adding the difficulty with the execution scores given by various judges with the 2 lowest and the highest execution scores dropped. By this process, the two girls tied exactly with the same difficulty score of 7.7.

    To break the tie, the Olympics guidelines (which was already agreed upon by all participating nations before the games have started) said to include the second lowest score of both athletes into the scoring process. By doing this He's second lowest score was a 9.1 and Liukin's second lowest was a 9.0 which makes He's average higher by the thousandth point giving her the gold.


  10. she dosent even deserve a silver, plus american bribed all the judge anyway, its just too obvious their athletes cant pull the weight, see wut i did ther?

  11. yeah she as robbed b/c the judges were paid off

  12. hi cheryl sorry about this i cant answer your q its in reply to the answer you left for me i cant contact you , obviously so am glad you had an open q, id like to thankyou for copy pasting that web page for me, but i cant see where the contact details were i was asking for jus wondering if you could pop them in again thanks  

  13. They should have both been given a gold medal.  I know the rules were there for a tie breaker, but c'mon.  If there was a tie in any other sport, there would have been 2 medals.

  14. TOTALLY! i was watching it last nite and the whole tiebreaking was totally unfair! The judges r so rong and I think at times they just let china win for sum reason but it is a pretty big thing to accuse them of not awarding the points fairly........

  15. I THINK SO!


  16. I think that they both deserved the gold medal.  OR  they could've totally redid the whole process of finding the score.  Instead of throwing out the biggest and smallest numbers, they should've included them.  They should've found the average of all the numbers and gotten the score that way.

    They should've both had the gold...

    :)

  17. First of all, just because it was an international panel doesn't mean there "can't" be cheating.  Take the French figure skating pair (I think they were French) from a previous Winter Olympics that were the victims of fixing by the judges - an INTERNATIONAL panel of judges.  They were eventually awarded Gold Medals after the scandal came to light.  That said, I don't think there is any real scandal with the judges, but there have been numerous occasions that I believe the judges have favored the Chinese, particularly in women’s gymnastics, but in other sports as well.  It happens in every sport, and you just can't do anything about that.

    HOWEVER, I really hope that the IOC recognizes the great amount of evidence that He Kexin (the winner) is not 16 - not even close.  China is doing a great job of covering this fact up along with the fact that Jiang Yuyuan is not 16.  So what if they provided "passports"?  How hard it is to print up new passports, birth certificates, etc. and hide/destroy the old ones in this Communist nation?  Think about what a huge deal this is to China and the lengths they have gone to make this Olympics a success for them.  The IOC is ignoring the many public records that these gymnasts are underage, and they are doing nothing more about it which is appalling.  Official Web sites in China showing documents of these girls' ages are now mysteriously inaccessible and official media documents and the equivalent of press releases FROM THE GYMNASTICS PROGRAM available to Chinese media outlets that give biographical information on all the athletes have also disappeared.  Just the "copies of the passports" are presented as proof.  China is doing everything they can to hide the truth because it would not only be a HUGE embarrassment, but every Chinese Olympic success would be overshadowed by this scandal, and that is what the world would remember about China in these Olympics.  They have put forth a lot of effort to display a certain image to the world (even going so far as to kick out the young girl that sang in the Opening Ceremonies because she wasn't cute enough). This would destroy all the work they put in and they are not about to let that happen.

  18. duh she lost on some off the wall tiebreaker they should have done a sudden death tiebreaker were they both redo the event

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