Who in here is an expert in counting cards? If so how much money have you won out of it?

Question

Who in here is an expert in counting cards? If so how much money have you won out of it?

Answer 1

Almost everybody counts to one extent or another.  see www.blackjackhero.com.   Don't ask questions that can get yourself in trouble.

Answer 2

Card coutnign in todays casinos is not extremely profitable, how ever it is profitable and i make on average 45 dollars per hour playing blackjack.  The key word here being average, in particular sessions i typically end up winning or losing very large amounts of money as high as 6 or 7 k per night.

Its very boring, and you have to employ every game manipulating tactic you can to gain a decent edge over the game, iv figured mine to be around only 1.3% +whatever i gain from trackign shuffles and taking advantage of some rare oportunities that arise now and then.

Card coutners dont even have a near 100% probibility of winning money untill they ahve played tens if not hundreds of thousands of hands, it is a life long commitment if you wish to be successful for the purposes of wining money, until you get that many hands it coudl go either way for you but it will most likely be in your favor.

My totall winnings varries on a day to day basis, and i dont feel liek adding them now, last i checked it was around 12k for this year

Card counters do not win every trip under any circumstances, on average they will win at best 60% of their sessions and lose the rest, as i said the wins and losses will be very high if you are playing for stakes that will yeild time worthy returns.

If you are playing 2 dollars per hand,  you will be tippig the coctail waitress more than you are expecting to win your entire evening.

On the other side, if you are playing 500 dollars per hand, you will not be able to play very long before gettign the boot

i have mad a magical compromise of playing 150-200 dollars per hand

Answer 3

None of the previous answers are  "experts".  In fact they aren't even counters.  They think they are counters, made some money, and have declared themselves experts.

True counters NEVER play  $2- a hand, thats a joke. And "I've won  $1000-",  thats not skill, thats luck.  

When you file your taxes, and your occupation is  "professional gambler", now we are getting close.  None of those people would survive a week in Vegas.

The best I have been able to do as a pit manager is count 2 games at the same time and only be off by  -2, on both games.

Counting can be profitable but is no fun, you have to be  100%  into the game.  Most solid counters make $10,000-  to  $25,000-  a session, and move on before they can be caught.

Answer 4

on two different occassions, i won about $200. i wouldn't consider myself as good as some of the other players who answer here, but one of those times i started on a $2 table with $2.

Answer 5

I am not a full-time card counter, but do make money at it in my spare time.  I have worked in casinos for the last 14 years, previously in Vegas, currently in the Midwest.  During that time, I realized that many (but not all) casino employees are very weak when it comes to identifying a card counter.  Most of them have a basic understanding of how it works, but many do not have the skills or knowledge to pick a counter out of the crowd.

I travel to Vegas 2-3 times a year and usually come out ahead.  Factor in the comps and it is almost always a free vacation.  I am not a high roller, therefore I seem to fly under the radar at most of the casinos I visit.

Card counting is not a glamorous occupation...I would never want to do it full time.  I consider it a hobby.  But I must admit it feels good beating them at their own game right under their noses!

Answer 6

Card counting these days is a lot tougher than it used to be.

In the 70's I financed every trip to Las Vegas counting cards, and got comped for air, hotels and meals doing it. As the casinos caught on to counting they still let me play, although it became more difficult to disguise it, and I had to cut down the big swings, since the dealers were trained to shout out big raised bets.

Now, with the dealer hitting soft 17, multi-deck games with two deck cuts, and single deck games that only pay 6-5 for blackjack (and hit soft 17) it is harder to get an edge in counting, although it can still work to an extent.

One of the reasons I came up with the Blackjack Betting Trigger was to find a way to get a player edge in muli-deck that would help disguise counting.

It worked, and helped me gain a betting edge when the odds were favorable without counting, and independent of the actual count. And the Trigger is virtually undectable to the casino since no card counting is used.

On my last trip, in May, I played at Harrahs in a single deck game and stayed choppy the whole time, and just got irritated at the 6-5 payout. So I found a $$25 multi-deck game with 3-2 BJ payout and a dealer cutting thin to the end. WIth a couple other good rules, using $50 as a base, using a running count, and using the Blackjack Betting Trigger, I took the game for about $1,350 in almost three hours. So it still can be done.

Here is  a link to the Blackjack Betting Trigger, you can still get it for free for the month of June.

http://www.thedoverpro.com/blackjack.htm

Good luck at the tables!

And got some good comps along the way, too.

Here

Answer 7

most of the old hands are now in the horse betting game now....