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Who started the fight between Russia and Georgia?

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Everyone demonizes Russia, but am not sure about who is really in the wrong in this war.

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  1. Georgia started the war with ossetia and russia invaded as a peacemaker.

    NickNicka stop copying the same post. Sick of it


  2. Russia is trying to save the influence on Post soviet Republics, but these republics invaded 90-70 years ago Know know price of Russian hegemony and slavery and are trying to escape it by becoming NATO members, they hope that NATO will Protect them.

    If you See National Interests Of Russia, Proved By Duma in 2001 you'll see on statement, that Russians National interest is to become center in multipolar World and spread its influence on Caucasus, Eastern Europe and they central Asia.

    In fact National interests of Post soviet Countries (about becoming NATO members) intervenes with Russians National Interest and that causes Conflict (war). If these countries Become NATO member than Russia won't have any influence and will lose it's national interest, that is most important think for any country.

    Russia Claims to be Democratic (according to Freedom house it's democracy level is quite Poor and is falling every year),so it can't just go in another country and invade it (spread influence by putting there puppet government) and is seeking for reasons or Creating Reasons. Russia Provocated Georgia By killing it's Soldier in S. Ossetia conflict Region and by shooting Georgian Villages in the Region. Georgian government lost Temper and responded on aggression. Russia had already prepared militaries as was planning this provocation long before and began invading Georgia, it's main Roads, Railways, ports..

    Russia Hoped to:

    1) Overthrow Democratic government and put their puppets Loyal to PutMed.

    2) Underline the fact that it has a power and Russians Militaries are strong enough to conquer a country (in this case Tiny Georgia)

    3) Show Nato that they are to accept Country with serious threats that puts hole Nato to threat and in this way frighten tham.

    4) To Show the world that only pipeline that doesn't cross Russia and goes to Europe through Georgia isn't as safe as thay sought.

    Russia is becoming Evil Empire and if it won't be able to satisfy it's ambitions and appetite as a revenge probably will become partner with Iran and N. Korea (they sell lot's of Armour already there)


  3. georgia :)

  4. the fight already continues from 1801 but noone wanted to notice it.... 1990-1993 russia dicided to punish georgia as georgians were one of the firsts to announce indipendence from soviet union.... russia provocate in two georgian region.... and the fight began.... the term south ossetia didn't exit before and at the begining of 20th century as there weren't ossetians lived there... then russia made tunnel in high mountains and the ossetians made leave north ossetia and came in tskhinvali...  in 1992-93  with the help of russia defeted new indipendent country georgia and separatists anounced ossetia indipendent.... in reality they were always ruled from kremlin, Moscow..... just like Abkhazia.....

    georgia deceided to become NATO member to become more secure from russian aggresian.... for the last few years russia and ossetian separatists tried to provocate the arrested some georgians killed some of them.... in 2008 july they began bombing georgian villages georgians answered then georgian asked russian ,,peacekeepers" to stop ossetians, but Kulakhmetove (commander of russian ,,peacekeepers") said the can't stop them.... finally georgians began answereing more seriously and to destroy all firing points, when they take firing positions there were as more russian ,,peacekeepers" than osstians who were bombing georgian villages.....

    next day after starting operation georgians were controling all the territory of south ossetia and the operation were to end.... but russians pulled their army into tunnel from north ossetia and began bombing georgian cities with their airplanes.... they bombed conflict zone and other cities almost in all georgian city felll at least one bomb few towns were almost destroyed..... they bombed south ossetian territory tooo where were as georgians soldiers as well ossetians....

    THERE ABOUT 40000 OSSETIANS LIVE IN GEORGIA OUTSIED THE SOUTH OSSETIA AND NOONE IS GOING TO KILL THE OR MAKE ETHNOCLEANING.....

    RUSSIANS MADE 400 000 GEORGIANS LEAVE ABKHAZIA AND SOUTH OSSETIA IN 1992-93 AND NOW THERE ARE NEW 128000 REFUGEES.... THIS IS THE ETHNO CLEANING.... NOW OSSETIAN SEPTARATISTS LEADER IS DECLARING THAT HE WILL PREVENT GEORGIANS TO RETURN IN THERE HOMES....  ALL THE MINISTRIES OF THE SEPARATISTS ARE FROM RUSSIAN RETIRED MILITERYMEN....

    RUSSIAN MEDIA IS DESINFORMATIVE


  5. Serbia is a sovereign nation and its territorial integrity should be respected." Had George Bush said what he said about Georgia from Beijing about Serbia as well, this is how he would have approached the so-called independence of Kosovo! The truth, of course, is far from this. The US was the first country to recognise the new "state" when Kosovo seceded from Serbia last spring. Yet now Bush has the audacity to talk about the territorial integrity of Georgia! The policies of imperialim will have pride of place in the annals of hypocrisy. The war over the issue of South Ossetia has three political dimensions. The first is an entirely local question. Certain peoples (in particular the Ossets and the Abhaz) that were part of Georgia under the Soviet Union have, since the dissolution of the latter, declared loud and clear that they do not wish to live under Georgian rule any longer. Georgia, on the other hand, wants to keep these peoples forcibly tied to its domination. Thus the rights of these peoples to self-determination are violated by Georgia.

    Saakashvili's bluff

    Secondly, Georgian president Mikhail Saakashvili is a fiery partisan of US imperialism and covets NATO membership for Georgia. Only several months ago, under Russian pressure, most EU members of NATO had rejected the American proposal regarding NATO membership for Georgia and Ukraine. By attacking Tshkinvali, the capital of South Ossetia, a de facto independent territory since the 1992 ceasefire between Georgian and Osset armies, Saakashvili seems to have attempted to provoke Russia into a confrontation and thus force the hand of the NATO alliance into acting more rapidly. Russia has seen this bluff, but the West, despite some harsh words by the US administration, has simply not followed suit. Saakashvili is a political adventurer who has not refrained from risking to throw the region, indeed the whole world, into the vortex of all out war just to have his country join the imperialist alliance! The Georgian people should get rid of this blood-thirsty politician for its own interests!

    Saakashvili, the darling of the West, has also made Georgia into a Ghurka of US imperialism. Today, after the withdrawal of troops by some countries, Georgia is the third country in Iraq, after the US and the UK, in terms of troops on the ground. A country with a population of less than 5 million, a country whose people are suffering from unemployment and poverty maintains two thousand troops in Iraq! It is not imminent defeat at Russian hands that should shame the Georgian people, but the fact that the country has acted as the hitman of US imperialism in Iraq!

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