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Who thinks something will happen on 2012?

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lately ive been studying kind of a lot about the subject and discovered a few theories of whats going to happen

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  1. nothing will happen in the year 2012...people seem to believe this because of the number 23 or something like that...they're just a bunch of crazies who will believe just about anything. You should try and do a lil more research on the whole 2012 deal and find out whats really up.


  2. Well of course SOMETHING will happen - something always does...

    However, nothing spectacular will happen in 2012 (unless you count the Olympics in London).

    It is just a myth which mysteriously propagates (mostly because of the History Channel and YouTube)

    You say you are studying this stuff - here's some food for thought:

    The Mayan culture/society/way of life is long since dead

    Therefore as an end to "the world" 2012 was a wildly optimistic estimate for them!

    And anyway – that is the wrong interpretation of the whole calander thing – it’s just the end of a cycle. And since calendars are based on astronomical motions of one kind or another, they are inherently cyclic. Our western calendar ends on December 31st every year!

    Planet X/Nibiru does not exist. If it did we would have found it by now. We have mapped the sky in the infrared several times in the last 25 years (including WMAP, IRAS etc), and it would show up. It is not there. We would have found it if it existed. So all the nonsense about the return of Nibiru/Planet X is just that – nonsense

    There is no scientific evidence for the existence of Nibiru

    Furthermore, at the distance it must be to hit us in a little over 4 years, it would be reflecting enough light from the sun to be detectable.

    Thanx to previous question from Brant and answer from bikenbeer2000, we know how bright it should be by now – it would have a apparent magnitude of 7.4 – which would not be visible with the naked eye – but easily visible in a modest telescope and would have been spotted by amateur. If there was a conspiracy to keep it quiet – it would be out of the bag by now.

    Ask someone where it is supposed to be, get a pair of binoculars and look for it.

    The videos on YouTube that purport to have evidence are disingenuous to say the least. They put together pictures of other objects (e.g. Jupiter, comets even a dust shell around a distant red giant star) and try to scare people. There is no validity to their claims. They present NO EVIDENCE at all.

    As for the predicted catastrophes – the most popular one seems to be the Pole Shift!

    The sun will have a pole reversal that year – it has one every 11 years – it is not a problem.

    The earth’s magnetic field is less predictable –

    but is still nothing to worry about: we know that the magnetic field does not collapse in the process of reversing polarity- if it did, there would be major extinctions that correlate with the geologic record for pole reversals - there is no correlation.


  3. 2012 is just the revealing of the 'antichrist' or the 'man of lawlessness' at the middle of what Jews and Christians call the 7 year Tribulation. Satanists and many pagan cultures from every corner of the world all throughout history have celebrated this like  the Sumerians, Babylonians, Cherokee, Hopi, Chinese I-Ching (confirmed by Terence McKenna), Mayans (Pacal Votan), Egyptians, Celts, etc. This evil event is called "the abomination that causes desolation" that will be set up in the Jewish Temple’s Holy of Holies when the antichrist is imbued with the power of satan himself. When will Yeshua Ha'Mashiach (Jesus) come? Only God Himself knows, but very soon. If you believe or not, that is up to you; either way it still comes.

    Things to look for to PROVE it to yourself soon:

    >Crash of American banks and its financial underpinning: Operation Sitting Duck

    >Fall of America as an economic power and other ways.

    >The Big One: Revelation 18. America goes down on the list of fabled societies nobody believes in any more like Atlantis, Mu, Lemuria, Hyperborea, etc..

    >Martial law. (Google some of Bush's executive orders concerning it- Nightmarish!)

    >Implementation of Project Bluebeam (be ready to hear more and more 'alien talk'... watch your local skies for the show!) Google and youtube it. Aliens... aliens... aliens...

    >Revelation 13-16-18  Trying to make people first accept the REAL ID card (to get you in the system) and then right after forcibly implanting people with these RFID microchips: http://www.verichipcorp.com/

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=f0gXGTcd6eE

    >The start of the North American Union.

    >Push to attack Iran which will start WW3-the atomic war to end all wars. (If you think China, Russia, and the Muslim world would just sit back, you are a mistaken fool!)

    >Final push to one world government: The New World Order- The 4th Reich!

    (The brutal final empire foreseen by Daniel and John)

    >Rise of a miraculous and awe inspiring world leader later to turn world dictator.

    >Push to one world religion where there are "manys ways to God".

    >Toleration of everything but Jews and Christians.

    >Temporary and unheard of "peace in the middle east".

    >Revelation13:10  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPT...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNPn2JLz7...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epMeGr-wD...

    >More world wide food shortages and famines.

    >More earth quakes. More fires. Strange and severe weather.

    >Major spiritual awakenings.

    >Rise of Islamic fanaticism.

    >Rise in wickedness and corruption.

    >Listen to the wisdom of this young child:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF-gcHe7C...

    *** ALERT: THEY ARE ALREADY PRACTICING [A MUST SEE!]***

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=932Zu4e4iVM

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=plELx_wmNgU

    Christians and Messianic Jews look forward to this as it means they will soon join their Messianic Saviour in the Millennial Kingdom of the next Age and their Heavenly Father later as "Children of Light". If you try to equate 2012 with Y2K or some other date that cried wolf, then you will be making the worst mistake in your life. Research all these things FOR YOURSELF!

  4. Stop studying. It isn't true.

  5. By early in July 2008 questions about 2012 had been asked more than 10,000 times.  I have given a version of this answer more than 140 times.  See also -

    http://robotics.caltech.edu/~mason/Delus...

    This stuff is all lies and fraud to get people buying faked up books, videos, watching nonsense shows on TV and directing traffic to fraudulent websites.

    Pole shifts - no, not a chance.  The Earth’s axis of rotation is stabilised by the Moon’s gravity.  

    Magnetic poles flip - no, they will just keep moving as usual.  They are likely to change ends at some time in the geologically near future but it will take hundreds to thousands of years to happen.  Meanwhile, the magnetic field will not disappear, but it will probably get more complex.  

    Mayan calendar - one of their four or so calendars ends in 2012 becuse it was just a count of days and the numbergs go to big for their counting system to handle easily. There is no prediction attached to this and even if there was, it would be astrology and that has been disproved so many times that it's not worth any more words.

    Solar maximum - expected in late 2011, not 2012 and it happens every 11 years anyway.

    Predicted planetary “alignments” are completely false.  The positions of the planets will be about as far from an "alignment" as you can imagine.  The next "alignment" of the major planets is expected sometime after the Sun burns out.  Even if it did happen the question would arise "So what?"  Where is the physical connection between Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn etc?  

    Gravity?  Like to calculate how strong the gravitational effects of Mars, Jupiter and Saturn is on Earth?  Multiply the masses of the planets together, divide by the square of the distance between them and then multiply by the gravitational constant, which is a rather small number.  Now add them all together and you still don't have a hill of beans.

    Newton knew how more than 200 years ago, but our planetary alignment freaks never care to because the result would make them look as silly as they are.  

    Venus will transit the Sun in June 2012, just as it did in 2004 and on a regular roughly 110 year cycle before that.  No noticeable effect then except on astronomers, some of whom will take measurements, no expected effect this next time.

    Planet X / black hole / brown dwarf / wandering planet - No.  It was predicted for 2003 by a woman who claimed telepathic contact with aliens.  No sign of it then and still no sign of it.  If this big nasty exists it must be quite close by now and visible with a fairly ordinary astronomical telescope.  Where is it?  The assumption that it can only be seen from the southern hemisphere and therefore astronomers don’t see it is nonsense, there are many large optical and some radio astronomical telescopes in Chile and Australia.

    Nibiru was originally a separate scare and depends on some faked-up scholarship by a fraud called Zechariah Sitchin.  He claimed to be able to read cuneiform, a script used by the Babylonians among others, He could not but others can.  He claimed that some old Babylonian texts talked of a planet with a 3600 year orbit that passed close to Earth.  This planet was inhabited by aliens who landed on Earth to enslave people into producing gold for them.

    In fact Nibiru is an old Mesopotamian or Babylonian name for the planet Jupiter, which will be staying right in its accustomed orbit, thank you very much.  Sitchin disagreed with the "Planet X" loony.  

    25,800 year cycles.  This is called "precession of the equinoxes" and was discovered a bit more than 2100 years ago. It has been happening since the Earth formed billions of years ago and will not stop, start or change direction in 2012.  There is no particular significance in the direction the poles of rotation happen to be pointing at present or in 2012.  

    The Bible codes were disproved within months of the first book coming out, similar coded messages can be found in any random book or even newspapers using the same "anything goes" methods faked up by the author, Michael Drosnin.  He used the codes to predict a nuclear war starting in 1997.  Oops.  

    Revelation - nobody ever made sense of those febrile maunderings, the evidence for that is that there are so many different interpretations.  It has been used to predict the end on dozens of dates from the year 500AD right up to April 2008.

    Nostradamus never predicted anything accurately and he may not have intended to.  Many editions of his quatrains contain faked verses inserted long after he died.

    Galactic central plane - we are near it, so astronomers say, but we have always been near it, though nobody actually knows exactly where it is.  No exact "alignment" is possible because of the angle of the ecliptic to that of the galactic central plane.  A rough “alignment” of Sun, Earth and the galactic centre happens twice every year and nothing happens.  Even if there was an exact “alignment”, the question would be "So what?"

    Photon belt - this one is almost the silliest of the lot.  The Earth was expected to enter this region in 1997 with remarkable effects.  Oops.  The “photon belt” is also said to be around the "7 Sisters".  Our solar system is heading away from them, not towards them.  It does not exist anyway.

    This is all fake scholarship, pseudo-science, lies, superstition and abject delusion.  

  6. In the year 2012,both New Mexico & Arizona will celebrate their 100th anniversary as being states of the U.S.A. Can't wait to party my @zz off when that finally happens.

    Viva la New Mexico & Arizona  the47th & 48th states of our union!

  7. Barely anyone here; no such catastrophe will happen. Wherever you've been studying and the theories you've been discovering, are all false.

  8. People think the world will end on December 12, 2012 because the Mayan calendar (you've probably seen it, it's a big stone circle) ends on that day.  It's not true, I think they just ran out of rock.  

    (If you like this, please mark it as best answer)

  9. Unless your theories involve mass hysteria and the mindless gullibility of middle school students,

    something tells me you really haven't been studying.  You have been surfing the web looking for material that supports your preconceptions, probably with a lot of you-tube videos thrown in.  This is not studying or research.  It is simply self gratification  and entertainment.  Please do not demean the concept of study or research.  You have done neither.  Of course if you are a psychology student researching middle school mass hysteria, please accept my apologies.  This would be a valid area for research.  

    If you aren't a psychology student researching this craze then you never visited a library or you would have discovered there is nothing on the subject except for one new novel written to exploit the craze.  No books in the stacks.  No reference books mention this pathetic craze.  No magazine or journal would report it except as being a silly hoax.  

    Again, let me stress this: Watching you-tube videos and visiting websites built by crazy people is not studying.  Studying involves a search for truth.  Anyone who believes in a 2012 apocalypse has never studied the idea.  If they had they wouldn't believe in it.  

  10. The mayan calender is a big ol' circle.  What if it happens like all big ol' circles, and it just starts over.  When we got all the way around from 99 to 00 the world didn't end.

  11. The only astronomical event on 21st December 2012 is the solstice, and that usually passes by without arousing a great deal of interest. All the other predictions for that date, made by the 2012 crazies, have been effectively debunked numerous times in this section of YA.

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