Who thinks the death of british industry was also the death of the tight knitt working class soceity ?

Question

I travel around the country alot and cannot believe the change in the old mining towns or place where everyone used to work in the same place , those jobs and the clubs ans sense of belonging they gave people are really needed now more than ever , and what have we got in the place of heavy industry call centres and a service industry were people work for low pay and there are no unions to protect there rights.

Answer 1

Yes thats right      The solidness is not there cause people want to  get out of   the working into he next class  so have no time or thoughts for anyone but themselves,  Its now a case of dog eat dog out there,,,  F you I'm all right mate  sort of attitude.

Answer 2

There were lots of mistakes made years ago. The biggest being privatisation of utilities and too much emphasis on the deregulation of the financial markets which we now rely on to survive as a country.If China stopped producing cheap goods we would be unable to make any consumer products because those skills are defunct.In many ways working people have been bypassed in the scheme of things.One cannot overlook the social  damage caused to working class individuals particularly the young by the mass acceptance of cohabitation with many life partners and extended families.The result of which has been confusion , poverty and despair.

Answer 3

Solidarity of the working class is a myth perpetuated by union leaders and politicians alike in order to justify their own stage appearance.

All the average member of the proletariat wishes is to improve the lot for his family.The fact that he throws his weight behind his "chosen " leader is indicative of his plight ,not his desire to improve society as a whole.

The long term answer to the throwing off of the shackles of entrapment is education.Have you ever wondered why we have such an appalling education record in this country.Only by knowledge will we better ourselves for the more we know the less we can be influenced by others

Answer 4

Working class societies are dinosaurs.

Answer 5

The unions did all the damage. Red Rob. Scargill.  That mob.   Maggie tried to stop the rot, but it was too late, the damage was done.

Answer 6

I do.  I currently live in a small ex mining town in the South Wales Valleys and the place is, quite frankly, a dump.  Full of aimless chavs and drunks wandering around terrorising people.  Its really run down and poverty and crime are a constant feature.  I didn't grow up here but from what I've heard, its unrecognisable from the tightly-knit community it once was.

Theres no jobs here at all - everyone has to go into Cardiff or Newport to work.

I grew up in Newport, South Wales in the 1970s/80s.  The area we lived in (little Coronation-Street style Victorian terraced streets) was a very tightly knit community, everyone in my street knew each other, and all pulled together through hard times.  Noone went without, there was always someone on hand to help a family going through a hard time.  The older generation had all been through WWII together and had strong memories and traditions.

These days its a crime ridden hellhole where people don't walk alone after dark.

Very sad.

I agree with a previous poster that the greed for consumer items and the drive to buy cheap shoddy c**p from China (which breaks in 10 minutes flat) instead of saving up for a decent, "last-a-lifetime" piece of British merchandise is partly to blame for this situation.

Answer 7

The death of British Industry, is largely the lack of foresight by the working class and manipulation by consecutive governments.

The British working class engineered the demise of British Industry, and continues to do so! The tangible, material evidence of this surrounds us all, it is indesputable and on full view in most homes. That is  fulfilling consumerism by the reckless purchase of Chinese products,to the detriment and eventual demise of  products made in the UK.

If the British working classes look around their own homes and recognise every product that says on it Made in China, represents another nail in the coffin of British Industry, jobs, population and Nation.

The Government have stood idly by encouraging British firms to deprive the nations industry of investment and make the investment in China instead.

The recovery of British, European and Western jobs rests with the working class and their wallets.

Answer 8

They may have felt tight knit because the communities were in thrall to the factory/mine owners; the communities grew because of the work - neighbours often worked together.

When the reason for the existence of the community - the factory etc. went then so people had to move and diversify their skills. So neighbours left and local commerce faltered.

What happened was inevitable; with the rise of the BRIC countries and their cheap labour UK heavy industry could never compete.

Answer 9

Like you I travel a bit and see exactly the same thing and agree with you 100%.

But, times change and we must learn to live with them.

The effects of Thatcherism and Globalisation must be fought now on a planetary scale if humanity is not to sink into a form of barbarism where humans are just another commodity, society does not exist and profit is the be and end all of existence.

Answer 10

They where Tight Knit because everyone lived on top of one another, 2 Up & 2 Down Homes, and Back to Back Homes with only One Door, it was not out of chioce you know, Everyone knew if you coughed & *arted, and they all worked together,

And their place of work was very close to where they all lived, you had to be Tight Knit, whether you liked it or not,