Who would win..... Ali or Holyfield?

Question

both fighters will be fighting at the age of 30.

Answer 1

Ali was the greatest there has ever been, he would beat holyfield but very close.

Answer 2

Ali would have easily KO'd Holyfield in about 6 rounds or less.  Ali had superior boxing ability, and movement.  Holyfield likes to come in straight and would have taken a beating from Ali.  That is what happened to George Foreman when he lost the title to Ali; George just came in head first and Ali nailed him.

Answer 3

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Holyfield isn't half the boxer Ali was.

Ali would K.O. Holyfield.

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Answer 4

ali would outbox holyfield, winning a decision, or stopping holyfield late in the fight if it's a 15 rounder.

Answer 5

I love the question, Forget those people that say It wouldn't be close or that Ali would kill him. Of all the heavyweights since Ali Evander Holyfield is the one that I give the best chance at beating Ali.

Evander Holyfield and Muhammad Ali's styles make for an awkward fights. Holyfield has a rock Iron chin and knew how to get inside on bigger fighters. Evander was also in my opinion the best counter puncher of all time which in my mind gives Ali problems.

Evander was a master of slipping the jab and coming inside on a fighter. Muhammad was not a good fighter on the inside. When Evander was king his losses came to Bigger fighters like Riddick Bowe and Lennox Lewis, forget his loss to Micheal Moorer, Holyfield had a heart problem in that fight.

Muhammad Ali did not have the power to hurt Evander and Evander would know it. Muhammad also couldn't get to Evander mentally.

Evander and his team was a master of studying fight and breaking down fighters, as he dissected Mike Tyson.

Round 1 to round 4 would be slow paced with Ali jabbing on the outside and Evander  following trying to back Ali to the ropes waiting for Ali to throw and try to counter Ali.

By round 5 Ali catches Holyfield with a big punch that Evander takes well. Evander realizes he can take Ali's shots and starts coming in more frequently. The fight picks up with Evander stealing the mid rounds by effective aggression and power shots.

Holyfield tires a little around round 9 and Ali gets command of the jab again, Ali decides he is going to play this one safe stay away and win rounds with the jab.

Lou Duva yells at Evander that he is behind in the fight in the 12th round and needs the knockout. Commander Vander comes out aggressive and rocks Ali a few times in the first half of the 12th. Evander catches an off balanced Ali and puts him on his butt. Ali gets up and runs the rest of the round.

In the end Muhammad Ali wins it by a split decision, the knockdown gave Holyfield the fight on one of the scorecards.

It would not be a pretty fight, and probably a bit boring through the majority of the fight due to they style match up. But in the end Ali’s jab and strait right hands wins him the majority of the rounds.

Muhammad Ali SD 12

Adam R... you are the r****d, r****d, you don’t know what you’re talking about, Muhammad Ali was "NOT" a hard hitting heavyweight. He broke guys down, wore them out then ended their knight.  Other then the "phantom punch" landed on Liston (which was a dive) Ali never had any one punch knockouts I have ever seen.

And the Foreman fight??? Ali broke him down too, Ali hit Foreman with every punch he had and It wasnt until Foreman was absolutely exhausted did Ali knock him out... So before you make dumb comments you might actually want to watch some boxing first.

As for Bowe he was about 30 lbs heavier then Muhammad Ali and had a shitload of power. Which made it difficult for Holyfield to get inside because he had to be weary of Bowes power. With Ali it wouldnt be the same at all. And all those fights were close, Holyfield came and back and beat Bowe in the second fights, and in the third had Bowe down and hurt and Bowe on his way down threw a million dollar punch that hurt stopped Holyfield.

You dont know nothing, Im assuming you just looked at the records of Holyfield and Ali and made a opinion based on that without actually seeing any of their fights.

Im the biggest Ali fan in the world, inside boxing and outside im a fan, but obviously you didnt see many Ali fights either. And also  Old George Foreman was a different fighter then young George, he didn’t go out and spend all his energy looking for quick knockouts.

So Adam R really, you dont know what you are talking about.

Oh yea and r****d obviously you didnt see any of those fights, especially Quarry the first time he stopped on cuts, the second Ali just hit him so much with everything he had and the ref stopped the fight but Quarry still didnt go down. As for Frazier he wanted to continue and only had one round left to go but Eddie Futch wouldnt let him continue.  Your argument holds no water kid and you dont have a clue what you are talking about.

Galctus I always like your answers, your one of the other guys on here that actually knows boxing.  

As for Holyfield not having conditioning that really wasnt apparent untill his fight with Moorer, which afterwards he was diagnosed with a hole in his heart, which he later said was gone. (I dont beleive him, i think its still there, hes never had the stamina after the Moorer fight and his return to the ring) I find too many people do not give Holyfield the credit he deserves.

Answer 6

This is a much more competitive fight than some of the uninformed answers let on.

Evander Holyfield was easily (I say 'was' because it's time to hang 'em up Evander) one of the top five heavyweights ever to step into the ring.

He fought and beat most of the much bigger opponents in arguably the second greatest heavyweight era in history, winning the heavyweight title four times in the process of doing so.

The Real Deal is one of the most complete technicians ever to lace on gloves, and if he had a really good night  I could see him pulling off the upset.

Answer 7

Ruddiger is a moron ali had power.he ko'd liston,foreman,quarry,frazier quit,and he ko'd lyle.all heavy hitters.

ALI was fast and had more talent in his pinky than in holyfields whole body.one thing you have to understand is tyson was only 5'11'' so he wasn't taller than holyfield.so to say that tyson could not ko holyfield is stupid.holyfield always had a problem with TALLER people.he lost twice to riddick bowe.ALI was 6'3" 220 lbs.thats a big boy and add his hand speed and foot skills.if a slow riddick bowe could beat holyfield then imagine what ali would do.the only reason why holyfield did ok against bowe was because he was faster than him.do you really think he was faster than ALI.

Round 1-ALI would start off simple dancing around the ring using the jab while holyfield tried to get inside.

Round 2-this round would be pretty much the same with ALI jabbing the h**l out of holyfields face.a couple of times holyfield would get inside but for the most part be unsuccessful.

Round 3-8 ALI would start playing mind games making holyfield mad.all the while still working that jab,but now he is throwing the right hand more.holyfield trys to get to ali but relizes ALI is alot bigger and alot faster on his feet.

Round 9 before the round starts holyfields cutman has his work cut out for him.holyfield is not use to fighting someone this big with a jab that fast.as the round starts holyfield is slow to come at ali his eyes are swollen and he really doesnt have an answer for him.1:27 seconds in to the fight ali stuns holyfield with a right hand and starts hammering him to the face with the right left combo.at this point the ref stops the fight when holyfield can no longer defend himself.

After the fight holyfield blames his lose on a medical problem and demands a rematch,but that story is for another day.

Answer 8

ALI ALI ALI ALI ALI ALI ALI    ALL DAY LONG  GREASTEST HEAVY WEIGHT THAT EVER LIVED.....    BEST BOXER IS WALKER SMITH JUNIOR

Answer 9

Ali without question.

Answer 10

Larry Holmes could whip them both if all three were in their prime...I like ali but I think he was over rated.

Answer 11

Ali wins by UD or late TKO. Pre layoff Ali would have been to quick for Holyfield to catch up to. Holyfield didn't have great foot speed, Ali's jab was far quicker than anything Evander ever dealt with.

Ali KO'd Foreman in Foremans prime. Holyfield went 12 rds with an old Foreman, and was rocked once.

Answer 12

People tend to put Ali and Marciano (and Louis) head n shoulders above the rest of the division.  In the Top 12 there is not so great a division between one champion's overall ability and effectiveness, and another.  

I would take the Ali JUST before the exile, he was still developing,  against the Holyfield who beat Tyson.   Of course Holyfield trained specifically for TYSON,  Far different from Ali.  In the Top 12, both Holyfield and Holmes would have answers for much of what Ali would do in the ring.  The difference is that "Pre-Exile" ALI could dance enough to take your game plan away.  

ALI had something NO Other Hvt. had,  Perfect balance.  This is the ONE thing that would allow him to keep a distance between himself and Holyfield, both in the ring and on the score cards.  Ken Norton, to whom Holyfield is often compared, would not have had so much success against Ali had Ali never gone into exile.  

Holyfield would want to crowd ALI, much in the way he did with the older Holmes.  THAT fight showed me that a younger Holmes would best Holyfield.  ALI wouldn't mix it up with Holyfield because he can't seriously hurt him on the inside.  He CAN get Evander's attention OUTSIDE.  

Many think ALI can't punch.   MOST DON'T KNOW that he developed a hand disorder (bursitis) during the exile.  His hands became brittle.  Pre-exile Ali had respectable power.  He still would not KO Holyfield but it wouldn't be easy for Evander to "Just get inside".   You pay a heavy price when a guy is pot-shotting you and you're having trouble hitting him back.  

In the early rounds Holyfield would have a hard time landing more than one punch at a time.  ALI JUST Didnt "Play right" with other Hvts.   He must have been a real  P.I.T.A. to fight.  For this reason, and the fact that ALI is a bit tougher than given credit for,  Holyfield would have a hard time hurting ALI.  

Holyfield would pick up about 3 rounds by the time the fight reaches round 10.  I could see him scoring against the ALI who used the ropes.  That fight would be even by round 10 with ALI using wit to take the majority of the last 5.  

Holyfield went 15 as a Cruiserweight but he always had trouble going even 12 at Hvt.  He's not a naturally big man.  He bulked up to Hvt inorder to cash in on the "Traditional Money" made by the Big Boys.  He's tough but he was never a KO puncher.  He dropped Douglas but that's because he left himself WIDE open  (Imagine, throwing a LEAD uppercut).

ALI would "Run away" in the last 5 and I don't mean "Dance"  I mean he would sweep 4-5 of the last 5 rounds.  He was always a 15 round fighter.  Holyfield was never a 15 round Hvt.  

ALI by Unanimous Decision