Whoever has ever suggested that God uses natural disasters to clean up "sin"?

Question

Really, that might be the most ignorant things i have ever heard from your type (and that is saying ALOT)

First off, Wouldn't that suggest that god is extremely inefficient? Wouldn't that kinda being like using a sledge hammer to clean a small scratch on a car? If your God really wanted to punish the sinners, wouldn't he be able to aim a lightning bolt precisely at each individual sinner? That would be much more efficient and dramatic. I mean hey, if 48 people were all stuck by lightning at the same time, and they were all sh***y human beings than i might take notice of god's power.

Also, I don't believe that god would kill someone that he "loves" no matter how bad they f***ed up.

Lastly, if hurricanes were really "sin" cleaners, wouldn't there be alot more headed for Washington DC? thoughts?

Answer 1

When God uses a natural disaster to clean sin, it will not be natural, it will be super-natural.  You'll know it when it happens.

Answer 2

Noah?

Sodom and Gomorrah?

Bible says God came first, but maybe the word missed some people and they assumed it was "natural" or the disaster came first and was ascribed to God by opportunistic priests.   Remember, goblins in the woodwork were religion before One God came to the fore.

And I always recall a fellow worker of mine looking at the video of the World Trade Center building falling and a voice in the back ground saying "My God, My God" and him saying that people in New York don't have the right to call on God because of the sin in the city.

Answer 3

who ever believes things like hurricanes are "sin cleaners" are really pretty ignorant people when you really think about it.  

Answer 4

Kinda like the Sodom and Gomorrah thing? And that poor salt lady!!!! Either He smotes evil doers or He don't smotes evil doers. You guys really need to make up your god's mind one way or the other.

Answer 5

Haha, excellent remark about Washington DC.

No, hurricanes are not sin cleaners, and great analogy about the sledge hammer. It's crazy people who think they know God and his plan. Assuming God is there, and assuming that he does have a plan, an all-knowing being would not listen to some red-neck who doesn't like g**s and change his perfect plan to compensate for an ignorant racist fool.

That's the vantage point from a regular christian.

Or you could just say a hurricane happened, as hurricanes ALWAYS happen EVERY SINGLE YEAR in the that region. Hmm... I'll go with the weather patterns point of view.

Answer 6

Take that same train of Thought all they way back to Adam and Eve

Are We Punished For Adam's Sin?

Will God hold us accountable for what Adam did in the Garden of Eden? It doesn’t make sense that we should be punished for something we didn’t do. After all, we weren’t there in the Garden. We didn’t do anything. So, are we punished for Adam’s sin?

     The answer is yes and no.

     On one hand, we suffer the consequences of Adam's disobedience and have inherited a sinful nature from him (Rom. 5:12-23). The Bible states that ". . . through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned," (Rom. 5:12 - all Bible quotes are from the NASB). Adam sinned. We didn’t. He was in the Garden of Eden. We were not. When we face God on the day of judgment, the Lord won’t say to us, "Adam sinned, so you are going to pay for it." We are responsible for our own sins, not the sins of others.  

     On the other hand, we are affected by Adam’s sin. This is how. Before the fall, Adam was sinless, perfect, and good (Gen. 1:31). He had a ‘good’ nature. But, after the fall, he became a sinner. His nature was changed from ‘good’ to ‘bad.’ Since we are his children, we inherit his sinful nature (Rom. 5:12). In this sense, we suffer for what Adam did; that is, he caused his descendants to have sinful natures and all of us suffer because of it. This is called original sin. It means that we have inherited a sinful nature and that all of what we are as individuals (mind, body, soul, spirit, emotions, and thought) is touched by sin. But this does not mean that we are as sinful as we can be. After all, God has written His Law on our hearts (Rom. 1:19; 2:15).

     In addition, creation was also affected by the fall. God had given dominion of the world to Adam. Adam sinned and sin entered the "world" as it says in Romans 5:12. That means that death entered the world along with disease, pestilence, earthquakes, famine, etc. They all have their root in the fall. That is why the Bible states that creation is longing for its redemption (Rom. 8:18-22).

Different Views on Original Sin

Calvinism

     Generally speaking, the Calvinists maintain that the sin of Adam was imputed (made to count for) to the whole human race.  This is maintained largely in regard to the concept of Federal Headship.  This is  a theological term for one person representing another person or group. Consider Hebrews 7:7-10,

But without any dispute the lesser is blessed by the greater. 8And in this case mortal men receive tithes, but in that case one receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives on. 9And, so to speak, through Abraham even Levi, who received tithes, paid tithes, 10for he was still in the loins of his father when Melchizedek met him.

      Levi was a descendant of Abraham, but because he was still in the loins (seed) of his Father Abraham, when Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek, Levi is said to have paid them also. The concept is that Abraham represented his descendants and the tithes were counted to Levi as well.  

     Therefore, if Adam's sin was imputed to his descendants, all of them are guilty of sin and justly deserve punishment.

Arminianism    

     Generally speaking, the Arminians maintain that we inherited a sin nature from Adam and sin due to that nature.  We are not guilty for Adam's sin and cannot be punished unless we actually sin.

     Whichever view or combination of these views you hold, we suffer for Adam’s sin by effect as well as nature.  We are sinners and live in a sinful world.  We are suffering the consequences of Adam’s sin.  We have our own sin to contend with because we are by nature, children of wrath (Eph. 2:3). We are sinners.

Answer 7

God can use whatever he likes..read your Bible

Answer 8

Dont forget the flood myth. Thats were this foolishness comes from, and yes it was terribly inefficient.

But then again everything God 'does' is inefficient, for instance him impregnating a virgin and waiting 30 or 40 years for his 'son' to mature rather than just creating him fully grown out of the blue.

Also him testing us on earth when he already knew the results before the test started is terribly inefficient, and makes little since.

Answer 9

lol... you totally just pwned them!   ;)

Yeah, like God would let a hurricane or a tornado accidentally kill innocent people because he wanted to do away with a few bad eggs. Why didn't he just hit those bad eggs with lightning? Great point.

People are so silly.

Answer 10

God allows natural disasters. The ground was also cursed at the fall.