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Why are feminist women specifically accused of having a sense of 'entitlement'?

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The only sense of 'entitlement' I have is being able to go about my day to day business without interference or harassment. I think this is quite a reasonable request in today's society.

However, it seems some 'traditional' women believe they are 'entitled' to be 'protected'. Are anti-feminists confused with regards to this issue?

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  1. STOP THE PRESS, WOMAN FEELS ENTITLED TO NEST BUILD AND REPRODUCE.

    Fancy that!

    When we talk of entitlement it is commenting on the apparent narcissism of many modern women. It looks like feminism has created this atmosphere.

    I'll give you an example, a solicitor friend tells me that most of the women who come to see him about a divorce are expecting to get everything, even the dog, even if she is at fault and is initiating the divorce. Feminism appears to have created this attitude.

    The "because I'm worth it" generation if you like.

    Protection? With all these female friendly laws, it's looking like one form of protection is being swapped for another.

    I'm independent really means, I depend on my employer.

    The women who would rather have a traditional role have been short changed here as the feminist economy requires both partners working to make ends meet, she suffers a form of oppression, wage slavery. The intuition of marriage and family is being systematically destroyed, the traditional woman suffers here too.

    The two income economy has itself backed into a corner, don't take my word for it.

    http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article581...

    A sahm is becoming a luxury that only the wealthy can afford, how oppressive is that?

    You guys can say we are objecting for arbitrary reasons all you like, you are wrong about us and there is a bigger picture.

    "Anti feminists" are something like what global warming people were 20 years ago, the "lunatic fringe" who turned out to be right.

    EDIT

    "Do you think having children is a right?" Yes.

    " More of a right than being independent?" No.

    (Yes, we are all independent upon employers, others etc. but this is different to being completely dependent upon one person). Ok

    "Do you think that women should have less rights than men so that traditional women can have their fairy tale lives?"  No, but I do feel that the traditional aspiration is less of a fairy tale than the rather unrealistic "having it all" aspiration we have seen in recent times. Also, bringing up a new generation of mentally balanced taxpayers is crucial to society's continued success and stability, we both know that.

    Anyway, as I explained (also see link), it's a bit of a moot point as "traditional" is increasingly something only the rich can afford.

    If we are truly concerned with women's rights we must acknowledge that a woman's right to be traditional is at the very least as important an issue as a woman's right to be independent.

    Traditional women are losing the power to choose and none of the "abnormal 10%" (lol!) around here seem to care. Which brings me back to the narcissism that people feel feminism promotes.

    BTW, I was most dissapointed to return home today to find you had not answered my other question.


  2. Because feminists are the one that push for special perks that favour women and give them "easy pass".  Plain and simple, modern feminism is nothing but an entitlement fest.

  3. Yep I find it ironic that men who pick non-feminist or anti-feminist women then complain about the unfeminist things that these women expect or demand. I'm a feminist and just want to work without being harassed on the job-I don't consider that entitlement-just a decent workplace.    

  4. I have encountered many people in my life who have a sense of entitlement... spoilt teenagers who are "entitled" to a car the day they pass their driving tests,  crack-addicted welfare recipients who are "entitled" to more state assistance because they are pregnant - again!, thirtyish men seeking their first management positions and are passed over in favor of  forty-something women who have returned to the workforce after rearing their children, high achieving high school seniors who are "entitled" to admission to the college of their choice (and are devastated when Stanford rejects them)...

    it seems everyone in America feels entitled to something, so yeah, why are feminists singled out?

  5. Of course they are sam.  Most of them do not understand that as feminism has come about, one of the things we fought for was the right to choose our lifestyle, whatever choice that might be.  We changed the way the world saw moms who stay at home with the kids or were home makers.

    It is not the true feminist who puts them down, it is those who want them to believe we are not as much for them as for a woman who chooses to be a nuclear physicist.

    It is the men filled with some personal hate that is unjustified simply because we wish to stand on the podium beside them and ask to be respected as fellow human beings and not be a threat to men.

    It is the nature of humans for those with the most radical beliefs to choose sides and throw stones, whilst the rest of us stand in the middle as human shields, with no one caring or listening to what we are trying to say.

  6. This is just another way to demonize those who believe in equality.  It is a shaming tactic that is supposed to send women covering away with embarrassment at having actually expected the same priveledges as their male counterparts.

  7. People, even women, put themselves where they are.

    There are just as many go along to get alng guys as there are gals.

    Nothing wrong with being a C student.

    Some are just more able to present well and move up the ladder with out being a threat to anyone.

    When ones short comings results in their not acheiving what they think they deserve its easy to fall back on claim of discrimination and bias.

    Anger for any reason can be an excuse for what ever reason they choose. Perhaps getting all the facts as to why one is or isn't choosen would change a lot of attitudes.

    EX.....graduate from USC and try to get your dream entry job where everyone graduated from Penn. It's possible if you're really good at what you do

    Just go to the other extreme.look to the realy sucessfull women...Oprah, Tyra, Stewart, Rice, Pelosi..etc.

    Nuff said.

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