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Why are so many people against people who are on benefits?

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So basically from some of the answers here it's about how much tax is taken out of your wages!!

Am I correct, but isn't that the Government rather than those that are on benefits who genuinely can't get a job, either thru lack of education or maybe having kids that daycare centres have no room for the children.

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  1. because the people who actualy have JOBS, are the ones that pay for the people on benefits to sit on they're bums all day and do nothing!

    fair enough for those on benefits who have jobs and try to earn a living, but those who just scrounge off the state are taking the p**s!


  2. The difference is simple:

    Those who hate those on benefits/welfare.

    Those who dislike welfare.

    Those who don't care one way or the other.

    Those who are on welfare and grateful for the kindness of others.

    Those who are on welfare and believe THEY ARE OWED!

    The latter group is more than sufficient to sour me on any form of welfare.  I don't owe them.  That attitude has soured me on charity of any sort, save to those groups who don't ask except in the most polite and indirect way, and never act like they are owed.

  3. I think we all accept that some people need benefits, but there is undoubtedly a large number of people who're on them who don't need to be.

    Also, it is known that for a girl in a large family in a council flat the way to get her own council flat is to have a baby. It's like a career move.

  4. Becuase they don't generally understand each person case, some people need it and some dont, spend the money on f**s and on just themselves (this is the majority or the type that mostly in the media) so poeple think that all poeple on benifits do this. also its tax payers money.

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  5. I have nothing at all against people who need to be on benefits, they deserve the help they get. People get fed up of the people who are on benefits that are just too lazy to get off their backside and get a job because they have it so good on benefits x x x

  6. because there is "no such thing as a free lunch".  Somebody is paying for it.  If the person receiving the benefit is truly in need, nobody has a problem with it.  But those people who work hard only to see half of their pay check go to taxes, SSI, state, and local, and Medicare, etc...sometimes are impatient with people who might not really be in that great of need

  7. Because there's a perception that many people on benefits are not in genuine hardship, that they could get a job and earn money instead of relying on the state.

    I believe in helping people who genuinely cannot help themselves - the disabled and mentally unfit and so on, but there are so many people who claim benefits who really ought to get their finger out and get a job.

    There is also an attitude of entitlement and dependency among some benefit claimants - for example, a woman I knew who needed her council flat decorated so she rang the council and got them to do it! That's out of order - providing people with free accommodation is one thing but surely they should be expected to pay for the maintenance and decoration of it?

  8. So many them have grown up not knowing hardships, or are too young to have learnt from their parents or grandparents who really suffered before the welfare state began. After the war the vast majority of the population  didn't want to see the poverty they had known happen again. All they see is the minority of cheats on the front pages of the tabloids.

  9. I don't think they are. I think people are upset about the fraud that exists. It does exist. We have no idea how widespread it actually is. The lack of knowledge is what causes this. Most people do want to help others. You can see evidence of that when a crisis occurs on a grand scale. 911, Katrina, Tsunami, etc.

    I know a relative that cheated the system, allegedly. I know her at quite an arm's length. She's extended family.

    I saw someone who was on welfare but her husband owned a successful business. Maybe there is more to the story but it didn't look good. When you work really hard, it's kind of hard to pay those high taxes when you see fraud around. It's like you keep trying to get ahead but keeping get pushed down. It's discouraging.

    It's not personal because each story is different but we don't know the stories. But we often see what looks like fraud.

    The problem is that we are losing our connection to each other. It's a societal problem.

  10. If you get up and drag yourself to work everyday to earn a living you kind of get the feeling everyone else should be doing it also.  There are some people out there taking advantage of the system and those are the ones that give them all a bad reputation.

  11. I wonder about that myself- here in America, we spend billions a year on our space programs, trillions on wars. billions in corporate welfare payments like the billions in tax breaks Bush gave to big oil companies. and untold billions to American firms as tax breaks, but yet all we hear is the gripping about the people that are unable to work and are drawing disability benefits. But let a company like the Banks and Savings and Loans that contributed to the Republican party, and the government bails them out with billions from the taxpayers pockets. Millions have lost their homes over here and the government gives billions to the Banks -something just doesn't make sense here. And yet, they look with disdain at someone that is having a hard time and needs to collect benefits. Sorry about the rant-just get carried away sometimes, with the injustice of it all!

  12. Can't say I am against people claiming benefits - as this is too broad a category.

    Some people with learning difficulties/physical disabilities and mental health problems genuinely cannot work and require assistance from long term benefits. I know and understand this will always be the case.

    However others just claim them because they are "entitled" to them and have put little or no effort in to trying to work and have no intentions of getting a job.

    I have no issues with those who need help but have real issues with the system that stopped being a safety net, to catch you when you fell on hard times, and became a hammock.

    My husband and I both work full time and earn less than my sister who lives on state benefits......seems a bit unfair that we are worse off working than she is sat at home all day.

    My uncle has scammed the system for years despite being reported by various people. He bought his house whilst on benefits.

    The new proposals are more like those adopted abroad where benefits are only paid for 6 months, and the physically disabled are expected to generate income using lottery card sales. They have to earn so much each week to claim topup payments and anyone who can't has to be supported by family.

    I am not sure that I would want to go that far and I don't mind helping those who are unable to help themselves but so many who could do more to help themselves,such as enrole in courses, learn to read/write, take courses in manual labour etc  don't do anything like enough to get work.

  13. Also SOME people abuse the system. My husbands sister has day care vouchers and stamps. she works full time (as a medical assistant) as does her husband but because he's a barber he under reports his earnings (not to mention the illegal substances he sells on the side) they have three kids and three cars (one is an escalade truck) and went on a Bahama's cruise for their first anniversary. If they can afford an escalade can't they afford child care and food as well?

  14. Because they are stupid and ignorant and do not realise the realities of living on benefits. They do not realise what would happen if you don't provide people with the barest minimum to live, which is they would have to steal it. Also they are wilfully ignorant of the fact that for any prosperous western economy it is an advantage to have a small number of people who are absolutely on the breadline so that they can be bullied into doing all the unpopular jobs that no one with any sense would do. The benefit system is by far the best way of ensuring that you have a pool of people desperate enough that they can be made to take rubbish jobs yet not quite so desperate that they will openly revolt.

  15. Most people are not. However, most people are against the people who abuse the benefits and against those who should be working rather than leeching on those of us who pay for those who are swindlers. Now, affirmative action should be ceased ASAP because affirmative action and its benefits is a racist policy and it discriminates against those who it doesn't benefit.

  16. jealous

    people with benefits pay taxes, so why cant they get something out of the money they give to uphold the economy?

    i think ppl get annoyed by it cos they have to go to work and earn money whilst ppl on benefits just get money handed to them, but it depends on the individual in the situation.

    personally i dont care what every1 else does i concentrate on myself. if these ppl r faking illness to get benefits thyl get found out. its their life theyr wasting

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  17. Because there are a percentage who shouldn't be - who either claim fake disability benefits, or who should get off their lazy backsides and go out and get a job, but they don't cos they have an easy life.  

    I do not begrudge benefits to those people who truly need them, but I do begrudge paying my taxes so some lazy chav can stay at home.

    It also annoys me when there are people from the UK who can't get help because the system is overloaded with people from overseas.

  18. People on benefits still have to pay VAT and many other taxes. The majority are in need of help and support but the government knows how the public perceive the sick and unemployed and is bent on demolishing this part of the welfare state. The NHS will be next in line. We should not be too quick to condemn the genuine needy in our society, and we are causing great anxiety and distress to many seriously ill people who are being made to feel like spongers rather than invalids.

  19. I think its because people think benefits are their right to have and claim . But they are not . They are only a financial crutch to help people when they are in between jobs . And need assistance I am sure we all know of someone who claims it for years without making an effort at work . And its the workers who foot the bill for their indifference .

  20. i think it depends on what they are getting benefits for. If you are disabled and cannot get a job or means of working after trying and trying, then im sure people wouldnt be against it...im not. It's just those people who left school when they were 12, and stayed at home, never attempted to get  job, have had 7 kids for more money, and just sit in a filthy house raking in the money. They don't tidy or clean or do any environmental work, they just sit...and earn. It sickens me, and I know at least 2 families who do this.  I hope that helped!

  21. It could be that each of us wishes to make a public statement that we would never be on benefits.... like distancing ourselves from the unfortunate.  Something like that.

    Good question.  Deserves a star.

    Wwe all have thwe need to be seen as successful and not as losers.

  22. Ms. S

    Do me a favour, and go to college if you can't get a job, at your local jelly packing factory. If you can't get into college, Why don't you think about asking your mum to teach you to knit, then end up knitting some clothes and selling them on eBay to get some money on the side.

    There's people like me, people like the other people who've answered.

    We get by, working our butt cheeks off, paying 18% of our wages to taxes. Taxes which go onto people who are alcoholics, which the goverment provide them with alcohol. To kids who had babies when they are 15, and trying to get by on £80 a week, with a 10 month old baby, a flat over their head they cannot afford, hand me down clothes, and McDonalds everyday, because affording food in the supermarkets these days is way to expensive.

    We then have to stuggle on with that 18% less in our wages, on our mortgage, petrol, car insurace, home insurance, child care, school fees and god knows what else what.

    It's probably right tosay, that people who do honest 40+ hours a week work, are worse off than the people who are stuck on the dole.

    THAT is why we hate people no benefits, and THAT is why we hate the Government.

    Enough said.

  23. I'm not against it. But I do know people like that, I guess there just too shallow brained to realize that some people are a lot sicker than them and need the extra help. It annoys me the way people thinks. They think everyone should hold down a full time job, but there are some people out there who are too sick to hold down a job, or get fired for missing too much because they are always in the hospital or doctor's office. So I really don't know what these people expect from the sicker people. Maybe there jealous because they don't have to work, but really if the shoe was on the other foot, they'd be crying instead, cause it sucks being sick every day of your life.

  24. Because in this country people arent even advised to get a job when signing on! Yet people work and miss quality time with family in order to support them sat on their bums all day. Fair enough if they are ill or whatever but being a single parent is NO EXCUSE.

  25. A lot of them are lazy. It's the people who genuinely suffer and can't work that I feel sorry for. There's no way they'll take benefit money off that amount of people anyway (whether they deserve it or not) without there being an uproar. As the song goes - I predict a riot.

  26. Now that depends im against SOME on benefits.

    My uncle cant read or write, he can hardly spell his name, now he is on benefits and him I do not blame, they send him to interviews and make him look a right idiot.

    but then there is my cousin popping out kid after kid with a boyfriend claiming benefits and using that money to drink and smoke weed, so the 2nd example, its people like that im against.

  27. For those of you bleeding heart liberals,the dole system was set up to help people survive IN BETWEEN jobs.People who had lost employment due to closures or redundancy or who were genuinely trying to find work.Nobody is saying that ALL on the dole are scroungers.

    What we have now is a sub-culture who think living on the dole is the norm and have no intention of ever looking for a job much less getting one.Families where there are already three generations who have never worked and are intent on having more children each year to keep themselves on the dole.

    Why won't they work? Because the government is paying them not to.I could take you to any local Wetherspoons pub and pick out twenty who are in there EVERY day of the week and have never done a days work in their lives.As long as they can tell the SS doctor they have bad nerves or panic attacks or declare themselves alcoholic they will continue getting benefits.If they are fit enough to drag their arses to the pub ,they are fit enough to work.I would have to work 60 hours a week to get the money some of these layabouts are on.!I could take you to three sprawling council estates where most of the residents are unemployed.but they still have 4x4s sitting in their drives,big gold chains,plasma screens and all the trappings associated with a wage packet.

    The genuine cases have no need to worry.

    Saying that,the government wants to start weeding out it's own garden.Because I also object to my taxes paying for their and their families massive and unnecessary expense accounts.

  28. I don`t think most people are against genuine benefit claimants. It`s just that the benefit culture has got out of control.

    All the ones, who claim, for disability/depression etc, but can still work on the side for cash in hand. There are plenty of people who suffer from depression, but still go out to work.

    The obese ones, Obesity, is in most cases not an incurable disease!!!

    And the ones who keep producing more and more kids, yet can`t support the ones they already have, without handouts.

  29. I used to get benefits. And I am not against it. However, there are "certain" "groups" of "people" That breed 5 to 10 kids, so that they can live off welfare and live in projects for the rest of their lives and do nothing, except making me pay more taxes!

  30. I'm gonna give you answer the elitist snobs won't like. They resent people on benefits because we're taking up space, taking their money away from them so they can buy more materialistic things and have their orgies etc. We're not human you know. We're invisible .

    Their lives aren't over yet. They may develop a disability, have an injury which impairs them, their parents, their future children, grandchildren or their precious elitist friends. Then they'll scream out of the other sides of their mouths won't they. Or in the world economy they'll lose their jobs and won't find work for a number of years and then where will all the posh toffs be , on benefits.

  31. most people on benefits need to be but a percentage are second and third generation dole wallahs who really believe society owes them a free living ,unfortunately its these lazy rat bags give genuine claimants a bad name they dont deserve. its time they stopped their dole after a year and put them to work to justify any further benefits , if they dont cooperate fully dont give them any benefits.

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