Why are some people so against fathers for justice?

Question

Why are some people so against fathers for justice?

Answer 1

God only knows.  It's a sad state of affairs when a man has to scale heights dressed up in a batman outfit to get justice and see their children.  This would never happen to women.  I despise women who will not let their children see their father (unless they are violent or drug users) - they should hang their heads in shame.  They are all too willing to take money from the fathers though aren't they.  You will probably find that the majority of people against FFJ are women - scared that the fathers might at last get some rights and mess their new lives up.  Something needs to be done to help these men - for the child's sake but most women are just too dammed selfish to even think of their children.

Answer 2

The way some fathers are treated by the divorce courts is disgraceful. For a few decades now our culture has been centred around what women want and men have bent over backwards to accommodate this. It's now time to restore a balance and give equal parenting rights to men. What fathers 4 justice are asking for is that courts start of on the basis that parenting will be shared and then work out a practical plan from that principle. It's the principle that is being fought for. It's a human rights issue. Some women just see men as disposable sperm carriers and money banks. This should be challenged.

I think the super hero tactics are getting a bit old now. Instead F4J should be promoting their cause through articulate fathers such as Bob Geldof and others who've fought the system to gain parental access to their children.

Answer 3

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Answer 4

women,  can't live with them, and we can't live with out them.

Answer 5

Probably because most of the fathers there have done something wrong, and don't deserve access!

Answer 6

I think in break ups fathers often get a bad deal and I think that is very unfair but the thing with Fathers for Justice is that they often do stupid things just to get attention. Like in the last few months in Newcastle they climbed up to the top of the Tyne Bridge, closed the road (one of the main roads into the city) and police officers had to be present all of the time, the police could have been dealing with proper criminals. x x

Answer 7

I'm not against Fathers for Justice per se.  I would prefer to see a Justice for Kids.

I think that there are bad fathers, good fathers, bad mothers and good mothers.  It's not a gender thing - it's a character thing.

There are also two sides to every story - these men get a lot of sympathy.  No one asks the former partner what has gone on to bring her to the point where she would no longer wish for contact.  They are "cold hearted b*****s" as someone so nicely put it.

Let me tell you my story.  I was a single mother, my husband walked out on me when my baby was four months old.  He left me to bring up two small children alone.  I was able to accept his rejection of me, but his rejection of my children turned me totally against him.

He never visited when he said he would, he lied to my children, promising them presents and visits and flights, etc etc.  He would promise them thngs I would never agree to (like "Daddy will send you air tickets, come and visit me) and I would look the baddie because I didn't want my five year old on a plane by himself.  And then when I did agree, surprise surprise, the tickets wouldn't arrive.  My son would sit waiting for the postman and run after him, asking for the letter from "my dad".  It broke my heart.

It broke my heart when he never visited them on Father's Day and when I asked why (it was an agreed date) he told me indignantly that didn't I know it was Father's Day?  he was visiting his father.  while two little boys sat all day long, clutching handmade cards.

His visits were brief, he saw them once a month for three hours.  He was always late and always dropped them off early.  His annual leave he spent in the next town, arriving to say "hullo" and three weeks later "goodbye".  A total of 30 minutes - in one year.

He rejected invitations, never phoned, never remembered birthdays.  And resented the child support, which was late more than half the time, or non existent.  I struggled, working two jobs, struggling with childcare.  Social life?  What social life?  I didn't have one while he got married and then divorced and then married again, with numerous girlfriends in between.  Did I mention he told everyone I denied him access to his children and turned them against him?  He didn't mention my pleading for him to see his children, even asking his parents to ask hm to visit them.

So when I see those idiots in their suits, I know what kind of fathers they are.  I saw an ex partner once, interviewed and all she said was:  You can see what kind of father he is".  And the story, similar to mine, came out.

I know many women with similar experience to mine.  Yes, I do know some men who are denied access because of nastiness on the wife's part.  I just think that the courts are being subjected to public pressure which has swayed in the father's favour too much so.  And my experience with a friend who has gone through similar, has taught me that not much has changed.  

You can't make a bad parent, either male or female, change.  But you can stop the children from being caught in the middle.  I would far rather a child was in the sole custody of one parent than being passed like a parcel between two warring parents.

We want parents who are committed to their children.  So yes, we want parents who are committed to each other and their relationship.  Parents who break up their relationship through affairs, etc should not get off so lightly.  Man or woman, a breakup should not mean that automatically the child goes to the mother.  There is a price to pay, and unfortunately, the children pay that ultimate price.

Fathers' for Justice?  What a joke.  It's Justice for Kids that should be the top priority.

Answer 8

Well I'm certainly not and take my hat off to them.

Answer 9

Oh come on batman on the motorway! who in their right mind would give their children over to a madman like that?

Answer 10

Why were so many people, men & women, so anti the Suffragette Movement all those years ago?

They were viewed as trouble-makers, wanting something that was out of the question,

blamed for being an inconvenience to ordinary people going about their business & losing work days on account of the upset they caused.

But they got what they wanted by making a stand, protesting & asking for fairness & equality from society.

These Fathers are only asking for their voices to be heard & their rights to be as important as their children's mothers rights.

They're asking for the Family Courts to move with the times & accept that not all fathers are bad, bullying, violent or unreasonable.

They simply want to be able to see their children.

A parents right shouldn't change just because a judge with a fancy name think mothers can do no wrong.

I make no apologies for my support of fathers4justice.

May they get what they deserve.

JUSTICE!

Answer 11

Not exactly against them, more against their oddball ways of doing things !

Answer 12

I'm not and i have no kids i think it is quite admirable to take a stand - wish they were crazy and slit hariet harmons throat

Answer 13

I believe Father's who are genuinely there for their children should have as much rights as the genuine mothers' who fight for their children....

Answer 14

They are not against what they actually stand for, it is the tactics they choose to take to make a statement. Very detrimental dressing up as a character on motor way ......

While I applaud fathers for are man enough to want to take care of the children, sometimes they are only doing it to spite the ex wife and some of the tactics are off the wall and people do not look favorably on crazy people having custody of children.

Answer 15

because anyone who thinks a good role model for children is grown men who dress up as superheroes and climb up buildings is mental

Answer 16

are we talking ex wives here ?????

Answer 17

Because they are stupid and ignorant.

Answer 18

IDK who they are. I'm from the US.

Answer 19

I don't think it's the principle they are against, just the means they take to try and achieve their aims. I support their cause wholeheartedly, but a bloke dressing as batman and managing to close an entire motorway isn't exactly going to go down well with the judge in a court hearing now is he?

Answer 20

Because there is often a good reason why the mother and the judges have decided they can only have limited access to their children eg they may have been abusive. And anyway what kind of role models are they if they choose to climb up buildings dressed as batman?  

Answer 21

I didn't know people were against them.I can only imagine that there are some cold hearted bitchhes out there.