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Why are the Salafis agaisnt Khilafah?

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This is not a hate question,i just want to know what could be the Islamic reason behind it.I personally love all the techings of the Salafis EXCEPT their views on politics.

And how does it make someone a "Kharijee" when he/she speaks about politics?

Why is it so bad to try to unite the Ummah under one Khalifah?

Nationalism devides the ummah, why do some Salafis still try to promote nationalism?

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  1. As I said to your other question.

    I agree with you.  Khilafat is how Allah established religion to mankind.  Khilafat is how the Prophet (sa) said the ummah would be reunited in a very well known Hadeeth.

    “‘Prophethood shall remain among you as long as Allah shall will. He will bring about its end and follow it with Khilafat on the precepts of prophet hood for as long as He shall will and then bring about its end. A tyrannical monarchy will then follow and will remain as long as Allah shall will and then come to an end. There will follow thereafter-monarchial despotism to last as long as Allah shall will and come to an end upon His decree. There will then emerge Khilafat on precept of Prophethood.’ The Holy Prophet said no more.” (masnad ahmad)

    Muslims from every sect in every country are now accepting the Khalifa appointed by Allah, Alhumdolillah, the prophacy of the Prophet (sa) is being fulfilled.

    love for all, hatred for none


  2. You mean Wahhabi? Wahhabi like to be called Wahhabi, i thought they said it is one of Allah's names, they are weird.

    Here see what the Wahhabi said.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

    And in your last question they said you are insulting them.

    Get ready for lots of emails coming your way, and you might be cloned any second now.

    These Wahhabi are sheep, they will go to h**l with their rulers, they oviously have never read the Quran, pharoah and his people will go to h**l, and then they will say we were weak and had to follow him, then Allah will say; follow him now to h**l.

    These wahhabi seem to have two hearts, one they love Hussain as they claim, two they love the killer of hussain (as). Allah said in the Quran, no man has two hearts, but they seem to. And sina what price did he pay, he died a martyer, that is the best thing a Muslim can do. Idiot

  3. Who said that the Salafiyoon are against Khilaafah?

    It's the way of instilling the Khilaafah that we are against. Like everything in Islaam, there is a methodology, and the reality is that the people today do not follow the proper methodology of establishing Khilaafah.

    As Shaykh al-Albaanee said in his Tasfiyyah wat Tarbiyyah, there are steps which must be fulfilled before establishing Khilaafah. And look at the evidence in the Seerah. Did the Messenger salallaahu alihi wa salam establish Khilaafah for the first 13 years of Prophethood? Or did he call to Tawheed first? How can you establish Khilaafah without Tasfiyyah wat Tarbiyyah.

    The proof is from the statement of Imaam Maalik which Ibn Taymiyyah recorded in his Majmoo' al Fataawa:

    لا يصلح آخر هذه الأمة إلا ما أصلح أولها

    ((The latter part of this Ummah will not be rectified except by that which rectified the first))

    And what was that? The establishment of Tawheed.

    So you want to establish Khilaafah whilst the Muslims are worshiping the dead? Calling upon Abdul Qaadir Jilaanee for help? Or Sayyid so and so? Or this Walee or those Awliyaa? Or those Muslims who don't even pray? Or those who believe Allaah is everywhere?

    The establishment of the correct 'Aqeedah takes precedence over establishment of Khilaafah and this was the statement of the Majority of the Salaf as Saalih.

    As for the view on politics, what place of it is yours to enter into it? Are you sitting in the meetings with the politicians? Most of politics occur behind closed doors so what you do is nothing but Dhann when you speak about politics. So why do you waste your time in it? You want to go shout about what King so and so had for breakfast but your wife dont even know Ahkaam al Haydh? Or you dont even know the Shuroot of Wudhu and the Arkaan? This is what you desire? For every fool who has a voice to speak? This is what Dhul Khuwaysarah did, exactly what you are calling for.

    It makes someone a Khaarijee for calling to rebellion or making Takfeer. And it makes someone a fool for speaking about politics without any knowledge of it. Just what he sees on CNN or BBC. Those are his Mashaayikh.

    Before you unite the Ummah under one Khaleefah, unite them under one 'Aqeedah.

    There's no Nationalism in Salafiyyah. No Salafee calls for "Im a Saudi Salafee" or "Im a Kuwaiti Salafee". We call for "I'm a Muslim upon Quraan was Sunnah upon the Understanding of the Salaf as Saalih".

    If you have doubts about the position of the Salaf on Politics, then read "as-Siyaasah ash-Shar'iyyah" of Imaam as-Sa'dee. It's very clear on the issue and why the common folk should not enter into where they don't belong.


  4. We just believe in the Hadith that said we are not allowed to get rid of our Kings as long as they do not reach the lvl of preventing Salat!

    Do you think we are happy with KSA kings? the h**l no! but just like what Ibn Abbas Radi Allah Anh and the rest of Sahaba did in Yazeeds days we think it's not correct to fight a corrupted Calipha as lol as he does not touch Islam...

    Al Husein Radi Allah Anh had a different (wrong) point of view and he paid Radi Allah Anh a very high price for his mistake

  5. They want Saudis to be Khalifa

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

  6. Khalifah on what country ???

    or you join Al qaeda who calimed to be Islamic Khilaft on all Muslim countries ?

    and kill people to make a troops then invade many countries and rule them the have one khalifah ?

    isn't the question sound wrong ?

    where is the Islamic Khilafat to have a khalifah now?

    and what the khalifah is doing with kharjiie

    or nationalism ?

    Muslim salafis scholars are the one who are against Nationalism did you see Al Albani(from Albania)

    or scholars from Saudi Arabia do that or Yemeni or Pakistani scholars?

    Salafi scholars from many races and countries

    and they said Nationalism is from Jaahilyah and they are against it !

    please do accuse people with things they are against !

    anyway

    here is my answer on your previouse Q

    >>>>>>>>>>

    who said they are against khalifah ?

    khalifah now is impossible !

    except if all countries got united under one ruler and still the Muslims in other non Islamic countries will not be under his rule !

    use logic now!!

    Muslims Salafis they don't care about politics because the care Much about getting knowledge

    and Muslims now are in all over the world and any country are ok since they can practice Islam good

    the only person called him self a khalifah is Bin Laden

    do you agree with him ?

    he make takfeer on leaders and many Muslims he killed many Muslims

    he is kharjiee

    the kharijee word is to go out on your leader or country government

    and this is bad even they were corrupted you try to advice them

    or leave to other country and practice your religion

    because you gonna make fitnah and many people will die because of it

    read history and read when some of people did this in Hajjaj time

    and of this fitnah when people go out of his rule this fitnah caused many dead people he killed only more than 70 Islamic scholars and hundreds of people !

    read How Imam Ahmad was patient under the tyrant and thought Governor time

    he didn't go out and claim to be a khalifah

    he was patient even though the governor was Tyrant and killing people

    when he advised him he jailed him and Imam Ahmad was Patient and didn't take his sword against his ruler !

    it will be a miss and many people will die !

    Nationalism ?

    where the h**l you get this word?

    Muslim salafi are against Nationalism !!!

    what nationalism word do with khalifah ?

    your question is just mixed words without any proof

    i tried to answer you but you didn't make the question good

    peace

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    Here is a great answer by brother Dan

    >>>>>>>>>>

    I also know of no group calling any person who talks about politics a khaarijee. What is known from the khaarijees, however, is specifically their bashing of the rulers. It is well known that the Prophet and the sahaabah forbade this, and this is unfortunately what many people today tend to do casually, not realizing the major sin in this.

    http://www.troid.org/manhaj/khawaarij/th...

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    i hope other Muslim sunni salafis like Abul Haarith answer you  

  7. You please read the history of Saudi Arabia with Abdul Wahhab,founder of Salafi Madhab.You will under stand better.All the answers above have not come up with the historical facts of Abdul Wahaab's political agreement with Saudi King.

    This Q needs to be dealtt with the historical facts.This forum is tiny to discuss the same.  

  8. Allah's promise is truth. He did fulfil His promise upon our forefathers so it will be fulfilled upon us too. It is when we stand up for the aim Allah has sent this Ummah with a responsibility . When we fulfill the condition Allah (s.w.t) asks from us, He will give us what's promised upon us.

    'Allah has promised those of you who believe and do good deeds that He will most surely make them vicegerent in the earth as He made their ancestors before them, and that He will establish for them their religion, the one which He has chosen for them, and that He will change their present state of fear into peace and security. Let them worship Me Alone and not to commit shirk with Me; and if anyone rejects faith after this, it is they who are the transgressors. (Holy Quran:24:55)

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