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Why can't women help women?

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Why do we get harrassed and threatened when women try to help other women? For decades now, we've faced opposition and backlash.

Yet, it's quite common for people to prefer working with a specific group - disabled children, the elderly, people with HIV, kindergarden, etc. ---- we all enjoy working with specific populations.

None of these people ever get harassed. Nobody tells a child care worker that she is an adult-hater. Nobody calls an advocate for the elderly selfish (why cant you work for all people, not just the elderly??).

So, why do we do it to women?

I'm all for men working in feminism or working for a cooperative goal of equality, but I'm curious as to why ppl have a problem when you say you work for women's rights (mostly those on this forum, but certainly they exist in the real world too)

Don't give the same old rhetoric! Answer with honesty, pls

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  1. OK fair enough. It isn't that fact that your a woman who cares about your genders rights. It is the fact that in the process of advancing women you are destroying my rights.

            I am all for equal opportunity, equal rights, equal treatment under the law.

        But when feminists push for ultra rights and women only benefits that I find it a problem.



          We are angry at what feminists have done to our basic human rights. So I afford feminists the same level of respect as I give white,black,Latino supremacists.

          Because it is painfully obvious that feminist movement doesn't give a d**n about equal rights. They just want ultra rights.

         And I find it hypocritical. The women's movement began by combating a men's only mentality and now those that follow under a similar banner have show they don't want to tear down barriers but they want to take down the old barriers and replace them with there own form of segregation and make men second class citizens.

         That is why we don't like feminists. Feminists are sexist female supremacists. Why should I tolerate someone who's main goal is the destruction of my civil rights?


  2. you're exactly right, of course. it seems to be that those who are so against feminism are those who are afraid of not being the status-quo anymore. it scares the h**l out of them, so they lash out like pathetic little kids. i say, get off your *** and help yourself: don't ask another group of people to do everything for you.

  3. Because men like Kris will forever not take their heads out of their a$$&$$ and realize that we don't give a S*&^% about whether or not they THINK we are TAKING AWAY their rights nor will they realize that women ARE more VICTIMIZED and OPPRESSED than men. However just to be clear WE ARE NOT trying to TAKE AWAY men's rights. We are trying to GAIN OUR rights. And yes women are more victimized and oppressed than men it is a LOGICALLY SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN FACT.

    But to my knowledge one of the well known male qualities is SELF CENTEREDNESS so therefore I am not surprised by the things men say on this site. I just hope there isn't a woman in these men's lives if there is then I feel sorry for her.

    Imagine: she goes to work (if she's allowed to) and the male boss sexually harasses her. She comes home and tells him and he says, "well of course he "sexually harassed" you, look at what you're wearing you brought it on yourself." And then he would laugh and say, "Now leave me alone I have to go fight for male rights."  



    We are trying to GET    OUR rights. I have never ever heard a feminist say that they want to take away the rights of any man unless that man was a known criminal or some other HORRIBLE thing I can only assume that the men here that don't like feminist are criminals or want to live in a society where it is ok to commit crimes against women and children

    thank the Creator that I was born into this society and not the one that existed some decades ago

  4. You're right....but you must take into consideration that helping people with HIV, the elderly or children doesn't put others in a position of being oppressed.  Would you only help the female elderly, or the HIV infected women, or the little girls?   Absolutely not! That would be absurd!   :)

  5. Clearly many of the answerer's above me do not understand your question let alone what feminism really is....

    There's always going to be those idiots out there that don't understand what feminism really is and how it is so important in our society....

    Keep doing what you're doing and forget about those ignoramus's - It's always the least educated one's in our society that are the most opinionated, particularly on issues they know nothing about let alone understand.

    Don't be put out by them - We need people like you!

    Keep up the good work :-)

  6. I agree with Wendy m ;  further more           feminist had hurt so many family's and destroyed the femininity of woman ; and you want real woman to believe in this stupid movement

  7. This is an interesting question.

    I respect women who advocate for other woman. It is wrong that people disrespect you for trying to make the world a better place for girls and women.

    As to why people disrespect you, it is because you represent social change that some are resistant to. I advocate for disabled children and surprisingly people are harsh to me too! They do not want children with special needs in the same class as the other students. They prefer to segregate them in a room by themselves. These children do not learn or interact with the real world. It is just plain wrong to disadvantage already disadvantaged children. But, equality, justice, these are things that must be fought for.

    Have you ever heard the John Lennon song "Woman is the N*gger of the World"? You would probably identify with the message

    Keep up the good fight

  8. Are you suggesting that women are weak, feeble, and can not take care of themselves like  AIDS patients, the elderly, and crippled children? How sexist... just plain awful. The feminists will get you for this.

  9. I'm no expert,  but it seems that when radical femenists get together,  all h**l breaks loose and they start causing trouble try to prove that we are superior to men,  not just equal.  That may not be what's happening with most of the situations that you're talking about,  but that's probably what comes to the mind of people that protest it.

  10. I work with women who've been abused and I don't really care what some men on this forum have to think about it. It's a serious problem in my community that doesn't go away by saying "but men get abused too!"

    Facts are facts. Pregnant, disabled and uneducated women are very often victimized and sometime put in critical situations. I help to provide a safe space for them to get their lives back together and to live without violence.

    I don't hate men or disregard their problems, but this is a specific women's issue that doesn't get a lot of attention. At our board meetings we never even mention the men who abuse women. We are all very professional and just work on getting funding, budgeting and delivering necessary services.

  11. There is a negative connotation associated with the word. A part of it is bad press and a part of it has to do with the radical elements, quotes taken out of context, and the stupid feminists that get a lot of press.

    When something like the Feminine Mistake comes out, and other feminists are sh*tting on those that choose to be stay at home mothers, this only fans the flames of feminist-hate. That, and those that insist that you can't want to be beautiful and be a feminist. The best thing that could happen to the feminist movement as a whole would be for feminists to stop fighting other feminists and work toward gender equality together, and stop debating bullsh*t topics that don't bring us any closer to that goal.

    As a movement, though, it's consistently changing--there is little dogma beyond that women should enjoy equal rights--and that's something most people aren't aware of.

    Lala: You're crazy if you're agreeing with me. I'm FOR feminism and I don't believe feminism hurts families or destroys femininity. I believe it benefits families and does nothing to help or hinder a woman's femininity.

  12. I'm a woman who does not believe in helping women feel sorry for themselves.

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