Why did God have a 33 percent angel defect rate?

Question

Apparently a third of all the angels teamed up with Lucifer. So obviously, God's policies were not even close to unanimously popular. Does God get a chuckle out of making enemies to defeat?

Oh, and was dumping all of the fallen angels in our lap a little thoughtless? Couldn't he have put them somewhere else?

Answer 1

Chuck E Cheese!!!!

Answer 2

You've got inside information even the Pope doesn't have.

Here's the scoop.  God created angels as spirits with minds and free will.  Apparently, some angels rebelled for reasons we can only guess, and the rebels had to leave God's presence.  The RCs believe their sin is unrepentable, meaning they can never say "Sorry" and get back into heaven.

Humans have physical bodies in addition to spirits, minds and free will, and we can choose to associate with God or with the demons.  Sounds like a lemon, but could be a lemon meringue pie.

Answer 3

I reckon that Lucifer is really the good one, and the other angels went with him because they knew that.. and the ones who stayed were just scaerd of God because hes like FOLLOW ME OR ELSE ! does that with humans aswell.

and God needs a Bible and that to get people to follow him.. and he scares them with h**l. where as lucifer has people ( so chirstians say) and those people dont even know.. so lucifer must be alot stonger if he can just get people without them even knowing he doesnt need a stupid book or to scare them like God. and how do you know that h**l is not heaven and heaven is not h**l? Like in the Bible it says that in Heaven you prase God 24/7  that sounds like h**l to me.

Answer 4

Where are you getting your statistics from? That's a little too precise don't you think?

Answer 5

They were not defective - just apostate

God gives us all a choice of serve or self

Answer 6

Taxes. God's earnings put him in the wrong tax bracket.

I am shocked, there were originally 999 angels in Heaven, and 333 were flushed. Zowie, there are 666 original angels in heaven!

Answer 7

Gas and food got high, so he couldnt afford to keep them all on the payroll....seriously, I have heard that some angels left Heaven to join satan....why I dont know, but still good prevails

Answer 8

seek God about it and understand. God has all the answers you just need to pray to him and find them. I often have said that to him when I seek the wisdom also. I ask did you get bored as I question him...NICELY. Being all good you wanted to see evil.

I think God has this wisdom of good and evil and he does and wanted to see if their heart would pick good like him. If they did not would they humble themselves before him and seek for goodness's....but they just tried to over throw him. My theory. God is also a curious person. He tests us to see how are heart will obey. It is really the only way. God wanted to see if they would remain good to him. 2/3 stayed while others tried to rule.

I bet if the devil asked for forgiveness when he lost, would God have forgave him. But the devil obviously does not want to yield to God anymore. I am just rambling.....

Answer 9

Sorry, I don't particularly care to remember books, chapters and verses, but this is from a verse in the Bible correct (this said for those that wonder where you got this figure).

What gets me is that Satan who would have been intimately connected with God and fairly aware of God's powers, only had his pride as a motivation to rebel and based on this he convinced 33% of the angels to follow him.  This seems to be a rather shallow reason for a massive rebellion like that.

Edit:

Angels have  direct  contact with God in all of his glory (at least I assume they do, there is nothing in scripture to contradict it) .  Why or what could be so bad that they would want to rebel?  This implies that evil existed, and thus was created by God, independently from Satan.

Answer 10

Interesting question

Where did you learn this from ~ just curious?

Answer 11

No Angels defected.  No God exists.  So There,  

Answer 12

Although I believe in God, I have come to understand that Lucifer is Christian mythology. That whole story goes against all common sense and frankly, as you seem to be pointing out, pretty much makes God look BAD.

Answer 13

He stopped matching 401k contributions

Answer 14

Hmmm ... you don't think that a weakling could get to be God's archangel do you? It seems to me that Lucifer is a very persuasive entity to be able to drag a third of God's Holy Hosts to h**l with him!

If he could do that to the holy hosts then you have to think ... just what could Satan do to persuade me? I'm not even as nearly as powerful as an angel and he seduced them, what about me?

You may very well ask that question because apparently you have a little sarcasm in your question about God's abilities. Do you think you've been persuaded by an angel perhaps? If so; then what master does that angel serve?

Lucifer or God?

Answer 15

Do you really believe in fairy tales and angels turned to demons? What makes you think that a God created a h**l just to throw a race of superior beings into eternal damnation just because they were pissed that humanity had free choice and they did not. Satan was supposed to be the smartest and most beautiful angel. Besides, if God wanted to eliminate good and evil.....it would be done. It isn't possible because without the seperation, we wouldn't understand which was which. If we didn't know evil....what is good?

Answer 16

3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads. 4 His tail swept a THIRD of the STARS out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born. 5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne.

[Angels are sometimes equated with stars as Satan has been with the Morning Star, so commentators assume this refers to the angels who followed Lucifer.]

7 And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him (Rev. 12 NIV).

Answer 17

Regardless of the exact percentage of angels that defected, the fact that a "perfect", "all-loving" God would create something that would rebel against him and then condemn them to h**l for all eternity is absolutely absurd.

Answer 18

what are u talking about where did you get this 33 percent

Answer 19

Did you check out the freakish ones with 6 eyes and 6 wings?

Answer 20

There is nothing defective about anything God has created. God saw all that He created as good. What kind of good are we talking about. Good like God? or good for the purpose He created it for. It is the latter. Even evil has it's purpose.  

Answer 21

LOLOLOL @ first answer!!!!

Answer 22

It depends on how you look at it.  Yes he did allow the devil and the fallen angels to stay around and come after us but he also gave us everything we need to defeat them if we use what God's given us.

Answer 23

then we would obey out of ignorance!

Answer 24

your stmts are wrong since 66% stayed with God....

Satan was greedy and some fell for it

please be more original instead of copying me

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Answer 25

I am trying to decide where you stand.  Are you a genuine follower wondering or even a non believer trying to understand.  Sadly, I feel you are one of those smug people caught up in the melodious sounds of their voice.

True, no one knows what motivated the Angels to side with Lucifer.  We can speculate, but to what end?  I think what we can draw from this is threefold.  First, Angels have free will too.  Second, having seen God's works they still bought into the lie of Lucifer (amazing we have a chance and none have seen God's face.)  Finally, without a head count we do not know how many fell in that third, but there are more than enough demons to go around and create havoc throughout the world.  This could also account for UFO's, Aliens, and Ghosts.

Answer 26

There are no numbers for how many angels rebelled and at what time.

The Battle in Heaven was a story gathered/written late in Judeo-Christian history. Most Jews do not even believe that story.

Answer 27

Our ways are not God's ways, but we can change and make God proud that we are working right along side of Him.