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Why did Jesus choose,as some say,12 apostles for the Jews and just 1 for the gentiles i.e. Paul?When Jesus ..?

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...made Peter the 'rock of the church' did he imply a church only for the Jews?

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  1. They tried it with one man before.  Poor Moses went thru h**l for the Jews and it cost him everything.  Maybe Jesus felt that 11 men could help the stiff-necked Jews and only one could do more for the Gentiles???


  2. Jesus originally commanded His apostles to preach to the Jews, because they were God's chosen people who directly received God's promise of the Messiah.  Later, at the Great Commission, the resurrected Jesus gave His followers the mission of preaching the gospel to the whole world, rather than just the Jews.

  3. Jesus mentioned that there would be non-Jews in His church.  "I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd."  (John 10:16)

    Further, He commanded the disciples to:  "...go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." (Matthew 28:19-20)

  4. I missed that in bible school, the 13 apostles. Paul chose himself and was not an apostle.

  5. In Hebrew, numbers have meanings and  word equivalents. 12 is a foundation number.  Things are built on a foundation - 12 Patriachs, 12 Tribes, 12 apostles.  Numbers also have spiritual realities, so 12 represents something in spiritual principles, just as does 3, 7 and other numbers.

    BTW, in Hebrew, W = 6, so www is 666.

  6. ALL of the apostles/disciples were Jews.  Paul was no exception.  He was a Torah-observant Jew.

    Peter was not the "Rock," Yeshua is.  Peter could never have been the head of the Catholic church because he never visited Rome!

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  7. bcz in those days jews were very important  

  8. Er... Paul was also a Jew.

    Christianity, all of it, is a Jewish sect that invites gentiles to join.

    Peace.

  9. i guess the jews are a lot harder to convince. ha ha, jk.

    seriously, Jesus told his desciples to preach to the jews first then to the gentiles. so all 12 did preach to gentiles. paul preached to the jews too, not just the gentiles.

    as far as peter being the rock of the church:  from what i've been taught it was peter's confession that Jesus was the Christ and the Son of God that is the actual rock. not peter personally.

  10. Don't worry about what 'some say'.

  11. The most likely historical basis for Jesus, Yeishu ha Notzri, had 5 disciples named Mattai, Naqai, Neitzer, Buni, and Todah.  "Mattai" is Matthew, "Todah" is Thaddeus.  The amplification to 12 disciples occurred in the subsequent two centuries between the death (as a religious martyr) of Yeishu ha Notzri and the writing of the current cannonical gospels.

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