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Why did the Romani people not get their own homeland after ww2?

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The Jews got their own homeland but even though 70% of the Roma gypsies were wiped out in n**i deathcamps, today they still wander around in search of a home

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  1. The Zionist movement was politically formidable and had achieved real results by WW2 (the Jewish population of the Palestine had increased several fold since 1900.) The same cannot be said of an Romani groups, they simply weren't politically organised, nor did they have the economic or social influence within the counrties of significant population to make any political organisation formidable.

    That they don't express a desire for homeland doesn't exactly help. "Wandering in search of homeland" is just wandering unless you have a manifesto as the Zionists did.  


  2. Perhaps because they haven't had one for at least 500 years, but it's probably more that they have always been poor, with no political clout. They've historically been non-citizens living under the radar, and they're still treated like chattel. Look what's going on in Italy these days.

  3. proper gypseys do not need a homeland,they are romanies which is a form of nomads,they travel where ever they want to,its as simple as that,

  4. It still amazes me how many bigots there are out there.  

    Lets start with Israel.  This was not formed because of some ZOG conspiracy.  It was formed because the UN needed to be seen to do something.  Israel was the claimed homeland of the Jewish people.  Many Jews had settled in Palestine or had never left.

    After WW2 the British were in control of Palestine.  Although they had been ordered to hand over Palestine to the Jews, by the UN, it is interesting to note that:

    1.  The Jewish settlers were not allowed to arm before the official hand over.

    2.  The British imposed a blokade in order to prevent refugees from settling in Palestine.

    This does smack more of a deal with the Arabs, who amassed over 1 million men to ensure that the new state of Israel did not last longer than a day (Oil anybody?).  I do not, therefore, believe that the formation of the state of Israel was the done deal by shadowy Jewish bankers that everybody is making it out to be.

    As for the Gypsies?  Firstly, where would you site as a homeland?  There are two possibilities.  Northern India or Egypt (Gypsy being a derivative of Egyptian).  Gypsies come from all over the world and although Romany origins are easy to spot, you would then get into an argument about who was a real Gypsy, since you might also have to include Irish Tinkers.  It would also be interesting to see where New Age Travellers fall into the mix.

    So there are three questions.  Who is a Gypsy?  Where would they go (You might try Greenland.) Who would want to go?

    To answer these questions you will need a more international body than the Travellers councils.

    Luck

  5. They don't have the same powerful friends in high places

  6. The Roma do not claim a homeland.  Ethnologists aren't entirely sure where they come from.  The Gypsy struggle is for equal rights in the countries where they reside.

    Jews, on the other hand, launched their national movement and return migration to their historic homeland back in 1895, fifty years prior to end of WW2.  The Holocaust wasn't the reason for the emergence of modern Israel, but it did demonstrate the practical necessity for a Jewish national home.

  7. Ego's got it.

    2 practical difficulties with setting up a Roma homeland:

    1) Where would it be?

    2) Do the Roma actually WANT one?

  8. The Jews' ancestral homeland is Israel. The Romani ancestral homeland is in northern India, from which they were recruited as soldiers about 1000 years ago. Would the Roma want to go there? The Jews have been expressing a longing to return to their ancestral homeland for about 2000 years. Do the Roma express anything similar?

    If they were not, there'd have been no pressure on any agency to do anything to meet such a desire.

  9. When Gypsies start running the New York Times and World Bank they can have a homeland.

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