Why do Americans think that they beat Hitler and won WWII?

Question

please tell me how they come to this conclusion. Who is it that brainwahshes them with these lies?

Answer 1

The british ??

The British had lost every single ground battle with the n**i's before the US joined the war.

Germany controlled all of Europe before america joined the war.

Germany controlled most of the northern africa before America joined the war.

Now lets talk about who provided the weapons, food, equipment and funding for both Britian and Russia during the war .

The US of course.

Answer 2

What is a 'Sherman Firefly'?  It is an American made tank the British Royal Army modified to their standards and used because British made tanks were $#!+ and what was the French 2nd Armored Division equipped with during 1944 and 1945?  American made tanks, half-tracks, trucks, anti-aircraft weapons, anti-tank cannons, artillery pieces, rifles, pistols, ammunition, rations, radios, uniforms, boots and helmets.  What did the Allied Air Forces fly against the Germans in 1944 and 1945?  Why those were American made North American P51C and D model Mustangs as well as Republic P47C and D model Thunderbolts.

Despite all your tender illusions otherwise; The United States Lend Lease Program re-equipped and re-armed the British, Chinese and the Soviets permitting them to maintain their war efforts and guess what all this happened prior to Pearl Harbor!  Yes, boys and girls we initiated Lend Lease in March 1941 when we were not in a state of war with anybody!  We should have minded our own business back then and left the European to resolve their own issues.

There would be a Common Europe today, one where all trading would be conducted in Reich-marks, where German is the common language and it would called 'Greater Germania', not European!

Answer 3

The Hollywood system encourages Americans to think that they did it all on their own.

Even the brilliant "Band of Brothers" series fell into this trap. There was a scene where a Cockney, dressed in a German uniform, presumably part of war games, starts talking in Rhyming Slang, for some reason.

In another scene the paratroopers are informed that Operation Market Garden will be British-led. A groan goes up.

Answer 4

Well cause we did, along with the USSR, the UK and about 65 other nations.  I really don't think we came in at the very end of the war.  We fought 4 of the 6 years, but the previous two years we were providing escorts to convoys and subject to attacks by German U-boats.

If you really want to get technical the USSR did about 75% of the fighting in Europe.  So do not get all high and might about being from the UK.  Your ground troops got beat out of Europe in the opening year of the war and didn't return to Europe until the USA was able to open a front in Italy and led the Invasion of Normady.

The Soviets bore the brunt of the war in Europe and did a lot of the fighting, facing over 5 million German amd Axis troops.  The British never faced an invasion of her homeland like the Soviets did,  Also had it not been for USA supplies the UK would have not been able to keep up their war during the first two years.

Don't get all high and mighty, WWII was really fought by two nations, the Soviets in Europe and the USA in the Pacific.  Both nations accounted for about 85% of the fighting in both campaigns.  Heck the UK would do daytime airstrikes cause they were to scared and left it to the yanks to do precision strikes on Germany.

Answer 5

Where did you learn history, if you are so enlightened to the "truth"? Please tell us what really happened - I am so intrigued!

You are the one who sounds brainwashed. Americans KNOW that it was a collective effort. But you and you European buddies would most likely be speaking German if we never would have entered the war. No one discredits Churchill's (and others) obvious contribution to the war - why are you trying to discredit ours?

Answer 6

Hi, I'm f***y, I post ridiculous statements that most of the educated populous wouldn't agree with and support them with no facts or evidence.

Because Hilter was wtfpwning everyone before we got there? Because we killed more of the bad guy then they killed of us? Because our country grew exponentialy in power and influence afterwards, whereas the Axis' power's countries, almost all of them, had gone through significant change and downgrading afterwards.

Answer 7

Oh come now!

The Russians are the ones who had done the greatest damage to the n**i forces.  Britain was near exhausted and bankrupt by the time of Lend-Lease (which started before the US was in the war).  Without Lend-Lease, Britain would have held out, I suspect, but would not have been able to hold North Africa.  Moreover, the Soviets recieved large portions of aid, over the course of the war, as well, including fighters, bombers, trucks, tanks and most importantly, food.  

The North Africa, Italian, French, Low Countries and Western German campaigns certainly had a strong British, British commonwealth and Free (insert country here) components, but the supplies and much of the equipment, and the bulk of the manpower was US.  

You're right that the US didn't defeat Hitler alone, and I would suggest that there's far too little emphasis on the Russian front.  On the other hand, US support and involvement was crucial to the eventual victory and to keeping the British and Russians from suffering far worse losses and the specter of starvation at home.  Moreover, please keep in mind that the Pacific war was won primarily by US forces, with only relatively small help from British, British Impirial and Commonwealth forces, and zero help from the Russians and French.  The Chinese were more effective allies in the East than the British.

Answer 8

First...we generally don't.  It was a combined effort that beat the Germans...however...the British and Canadiens, which is pretty much all that was left at the point that the US entered the war, didn't have the manpower or equipment needed to offensively engage the Germans on mainland Europe by themselves.  The French and British expeditionary forces had pretty much been decimated at this point and forced to withdraw, and were stuck in defensive positions on thier island...they were greatly successful at it...the Battle of Britian was a prime example of British tenacity at defending thier little isle...but there was no way they could support a push into Franch from where they were at.  They would have been contained and without introducing the sudden problem of a 2 front war, Hitler would have eventually faught the Russians to a standstill.  Other than the Brits, the Irish, the Swiss, and the Icelanders, Europe and a significant portion of Western Asia would still be under a unified German banner.  

So, no, we (the Americans) didn't "win" the war by ourselves...not by a long shot....but it was the introduction of our supplies and troops into the fight that gave the Allies the assets they needed to make it a reality.  

That being said, however, the one we really need to thank for winning the war in Europe is Hitler.  At times a strategic genius...and at others...a complete and utter moron.  We had no interest in Europe.  When Japan attacked us, Germany, for whatever reason, randomly decided to declare war on us.  If he hadn't declared war on us first, we more than likely would have avoided direct involvent in the European conflict.

EDIT:  No...we didn't come in at the end.  It's not like you guys were winning the day and we jumped in at the last second for the glory of it.  The war was essentially deadlocked.  You destroyed a lot of thier stuff, but they had destroyed a lot of yours too.  All three of you (the western European allies, the Russians, and the Axis powers) had been reduced down to being incapable of maintaining significant offensive operations and were basically static when we got there. It's basic military strategy...a well trained defensively positioned force will generally be able to adequetely hold off an opposition up to 3 times its size.  Unless the attacker can muster enough men and equipment to give the massed firepower needed to break that defense, it doesn't stand a chance.  None of you could muster that without sacrificing your ability to defend.  It MAY very well have been close to ending, but it wouldn't have been with an allied victory, as I already explained above.  You guys NEEDED reinforcements to push forward.  We provided that.  It ended quickly because the allies got an influx of more troops while the Axis did not.  We steamrolled them by simply having more guys and the ability to actually mass them toward a limited set of objectives.

Answer 9

People seem to forget it was in fact the joint effort of the allies that helped over come Hitler. USA were vital in this but by no means the only country responsible. Pointing out there involvement towards the end, after Japan invaded Pearl Harbor is correct but they were vital in the overthrowing of the Axis.  USA provided the UK with a lot of financial backing - helping us to be able to afford to continue advancing in places suck as Libya - and rebuild the country after .The RAF merely held off the Blitzkrieg after Dunkirk However it was the Russians that forced Hitler back and to shoot himself in defeat. I think most would agree it was the invasion of Russia and the breaking of the non-aggression pact which cost them so dearly. So It was a joint effort however its unlikely this was possible without the help of USA. I doubt any American (thats looked at the war) would claim sole victory.

The UK only finished repaying its debts to USA  at the end of 2006 the treasury minister recently noted- "It was vital support [from the USA] which helped Britain defeat n**i Germany and secure peace and prosperity in the post-war period. We honour our commitments to them now as they honoured their commitments to us all those years ago."

It is widely recognised Russia contributed most in terms of lives lost. America in monetary and weaponry. The US effectively bankrolled the allies in WWII. They also supplied vast amounts of aid to the USSR, so the Soviets could tie down the Germans, and eventually roll them back to within the borders of Germany itself. The mobilisation of US industry was a huge achievement. Britain played a huge part technologically - radar and sonar for example, or the development of the code-cracking computer at Bletchley Park.

Answer 10

well, lets see....the Axis powers were absolutely dominating the war until the Japanese were foolish enough to awaken the sleeping industrial giant that was and is America, and soon after that happened the tide of the war was turned.I dont think you would find any American who knows what theyre talking about that would say we won it by ourselves, but I would say that we were the most vital component of the Allies and surely sent the most troops overseas for a very noble cause.

Answer 11

The Russians definitely paid the highest price in defeating the n***s.  Western Europe all but belonged to Germany before they attacked the Russians, who stopped and finally reversed the n**i advance, all the way to Berlin.  

The United States, having preserved England as an Air Strip, was trying to protect her interests in Europe from the advancing Russians. They waited until the right moment to launch an assault on the Western Front, when the Germans were throwing massive amounts of young men and hardware at the Russians.  They were able to reclaim enough of Europe for the West to set the stage for the ensuing Cold War against the Russians, who fought their way to Berlin street by street, house by house.  

It isn't so much that American schoolchildren are taught that we beat Hitler.  Rather, they are taught that we saved Europe from Communism.

Answer 12

I'm American and I don't think we beat Hitler and won WWII. My parents were both in the Navy and they don't think that.

The Allies beat Hitler and won WWII. You can say no one really beat Hitler, because he killed himself, but all the things that led to his death were caused by the war, which we were part of. So we have a right to feel a sense of pride - but even then, if you walk into a mall and ask that question to everyone, I doubt that there will be a lot of people who say that they are proud about that. The whole war was sad - what war isn't?

Answer 13

I don't know of any American's who feel that they defeated Hitler,  we didn't even get into WWII in Europe till late in the war, Russia and Brittan were pushing back the front.  United States was brought into the war by the bombing of Pear Harbor and we defeated Japan.  I am not sure where you got the information the American's think they defeated Germany or won WWII, we were a part of a coalition which beat Germany and Japan.  Many American's have no sense of history so you might be talking to some very stupid people who don't understand the whole story.

Answer 14

1940 Germany suffers its first major defeat in the battle of Britain (The Axis never tried it again) 1942 the British and commonwealth armies defeat Germany in El Alemein which sends the axis powers into a headlong retreat in north Africa ` 1943 Kassarine pass…The rest is history.

The point is the USA supplied the UK with lend lease which was desperately needed by the UK simply because Britain along with many other European countries had neglected their armed forces after the 1st world war! And by the time D-Day came along the armies were unrecognisable to just a couple of years before. Did you know the USA was the lesser number compared to the UK / CW? But the US suffered a massive amount of casualties and was a major player in the end result.

So to answer your question it is Hollywood to blame for the lack of historical fact` just Google” HMS Bulldog “and follow it from there.

Answer 15

The Americans were with us on D- Day, and without them, we would have never been able to plan a D-Day. they fought with us all the way to Berlin. Before they joined us, there were thousands of Americans who came here as volunteers to fight on our side. Our Raf which saved this country from a german invasion was manned by a lot of American fighter pilots as well as other Nationalities. It wasn't all jolly old English chaps taking on the Luftwaffe. They also fought with the British against the japanese in Burma etc. I lived through WW2, you didn't, so you never knew how kind and helpful the Americans were to the British people before they were drawn into the war. After The evacuation from Dunkirk of the BEF, we were on our knees. The Americans saved us again by the Lease Lend agreement we had with them. You need to know a bit more about the American involvement in WW2 before you mouth of about something you seem to know little about.  

Answer 16

louie666- true, without the Russians it would have been a long long war, but without the Americans, the war would have been won by the Germans, you know this too be true.

America's material and military support saved Europe from n**i rule more than the Russians did, you know this to be true as well. I certainly won't say we beat Hitler, I'll say we beat the Axis. (considering we were fighting all 3 of them, all across the world). The Germans always had to keep troops at the western front, troops which they couldve brought to the eastern front, because they were afraid of a attack by the Americans. Russia relied much on lend-lease to generate those numbers they had. Without American material support, more crucial numbers of men would have been detoured from the front to factories to make weapons. We came after others, but we gave the crucial second front that destroyed germany.

You really can't blame us for entering later, especially with the policy of isolationism we had at the time. I could blame you guys for your policies of appeasement, but that would not be fair because you were weary of war. So don't blame us for the policy of isolationism we had at the time. h**l, the swiss were part of Europe and neutral lol.

Europe gave time, America gave money, and Russia gave blood.

Armourer- succeed on making a bridgehead  with only British and Canadian troops? Good luck. You would not have had the moral or the number of troops to do so. (you only said without the US military, so i'll assume you acknowledge our material contributions). America gave the allies an overall morale boost due to the influx of fresh soldiers. If all you have are veterans, people get pretty pessimistic -,-''. Without the US, Britain would never have been able to successfully hold a bridgehead in Europe, the end.

Answer 17

You have no idea what your talking about get your facts right before shouting your mouth off. Without  American supplies and man power the Germans would have had it easy. The Germans would not have to worry about the British if the Americans weren't involved. More German  reinforcements would have been sent to russia and the ruskies would have had there @rse kicked. Operation overlord would not have been possible without the americans, and thousands of them died. You really are a disgrace go crawl back into that hole you came out off.

Answer 18

I think they were part of the whole picture. I can also picture Europe speaking German right now if the US would not have sold England the weapons she needed and loaned her money. Russia lost the most people and did more of the dirty work, so whom do you think won WW2?

Better than that if not for Hitler attacking the Russians you would be sprechen zie Deutsch right now!

Answer 19

Americans have a somewhat limited history, so at every opportunity they will seek to amend established fact to suit their needs and often claim artisitic license where film making in concerned.

History is written by the victors.  All history is bunk.

Americans, by the way get all their historical knowledge via Hollywood.

Answer 20

really? have you studied this war?

Yes, Russia was fighting back the n***s and driving them back nearing the end of the war.  But they had massive amounts of weaponry and soldiers guarding the western part of Europe in fear of an American attack.  Without this fear they would have been able to devote all of their forces towards Russia.  Russia would not have been able to stand alone.

3 factors were a part of this. 1)Russia has a huge country so they have that advantage of retreating but still not give up much land 2) brutally cold winters - Hitler made the mistake of not issuing winter clothing - soldiers froze to death and weapons stopped working 3) Hitler had his forces in three areas (Russian, North Africa, Western Europe)

Even though America was not in the war it was shipping massive amounts of tanks, guns and ammunition to UK AND RUSSIA.  The Russians were using AMERICAN equipment to fight the n***s back.

After the initial landing of Normandy beaches the American forces (mixed with some Brits and others) were unstopable all the way to the the the Germany border.

Here is another reason why the Americans won the war.  Germany dominated the skies with their planes, and that is one reason they took over so many countries so fast. No one could stop their planes.  America entered the war, and with the help of Britain, wipped out their airforce and made it not a factor for the rest of the war.

Tanks.  the n**i Tiger tanks were the best tanks in the war and no other country had anything to stop them with their 88 mm canons just blowing evetrything up. This was true until the Americans entered the war.  They had a tank that could deliver great fire power and could handle being hit by the Tiger tanks.

I could go on and on amount how WWII would have been going on for much longer without the Americans entering the war.

Answer 21

well i for one think we did, because we did. along with the Soviet Union,the UK and her colonial troops,France,Poland,Greece,and all the other Allies. who do you think beat them Martians?

well with the exception of the Royal Navy,and RAF the British Army played a very small role in the WW II. England relied on her Colonial Armies to do the fighting for her. Not to mention without Lend Lease from the USA Britian would have been hard pressed to beat anyone during WW II.

Answer 22

Well it is true that without the US help, the war would have taken an awful lot longer to win.  By the time they got into it the Allies were struggling and were running out of war funds.  The US loaned a massive amount (the repayments of which kept Britain poor and on the ration books until well into the 50s and 60s).

The US by themselves didn't win the war - they just helped a lot at the end.

Answer 23

Every country (I suspect) colors their history to make it look like they played a larger role in events than they did.  It is however true that England likely would not have been able to stand against Hitler without the Lend Lease Act and other help from the US prior to them getting into the war.  That being said.  It was not the US that beat Hitler it was a grand alliance of many countries.  

Answer 24

I understand that you are trying to get recognition for your country but unless you are a World War II vet, It seems a little inappropriate to disrespect U.S. soldiers who did fight to protect your way of life as well as their own.

Let's look at it from a more realistic perspective.

In combat the U.S. played a critical part in WWII as reinforcements.  They were a final powerhouse on the western front that boosted the British and the rest of our allies.  With the Soviet opposition on Germany's eastern front, Hitler was fighting a war on two fronts without backup.  The n***s were effectively trapped and their defeat was inevitable.

History will always favor the strongest forces in any conflict. However in all fairness the U.S. did not beat the Germans alone.  The true U.S. "victory" in WWII would be against Japan; a strong opponent, but with limited resources.

Back in th 40s, Germany's military was a force to be reckoned with. It's doubtful any of the European countries could defeat them alone. It is believed that even the U.S. or U.S.S.R. would have each had a tough time fighting Germany alone.

Remember,  a nation's history will always tell a story that reflects their own involvement.  You will have a different variant of WWII history from every country involved each one showing themselves as heros defending their own ideals.  (Try to imagine France or Germany's version)

I'd be interested in hearing more of what you have to say but In a topic like this,  facts will do you more good than raw emotion.

Answer 25

xD  I'm usually known IRL for hating the USA, but this is just funny.

The USA HELPED win the War, Britain, France, Russia etc. were the main contributers.

Although... the Soviet Union didn't really help, as they signed a pact/treaty with Hitler so they wouldn't invade Russia, forcing Hitler down, and, in the end, back towards the western countries.

Anyway, the US was a great help in the war, but they didn't win it, no one really did, how can you win when hundreds of thousands of people died.

You could say every Ally to the British "won" the war, but with a cost.

That's like saying that the last editor on Wikipedia's entry didn't count, even though it may have turned a stub to a really long and helpful article.

Answer 26

American public opinion was very anti getting involved in the war.  Churchill asked for help on many occasions and the Americans refused or stalled for time  They offered military support - but the British would have to collect it.  America only came into the war after the attack on Pearl Harbour - when they declared war on Japan and Germany declared on America in return.  America only came into the war because it had to - but did bloody well out of it!!

Answer 27

We did, along with with the UK, the USSR.  No one country was able to do it on their own.  The UK could not have done it without the UK and USSR, the USSR would have fell without the US and UK.  

If the US had not got involved, Europe sure as h**l would not have defeated him.  I admit we could not  have done it ourselves, but neither could you.

Ohhh.... look at the haughty European.... I suppose you were going to take Japan by yourselves as well.... from your question I would say you are the one worked up.... LoL

If we came in at the end, so did you... WWII started around 1930 if you ask the Chinese.

Also, good luck defeating most of those Axis forces without our supplies coming in.  It may have been your soldiers fighting early on, but it was our industry in you back pocket.

If you wanted to make that argument about WWI, you would have a point.  But you are trying to argue WWII.

BOTTOM LINE----- it was a combined effort.... Diplomacy, Militarily, and Economically.

Answer 28

I am an American, and what I've been taught is that Russia played a big part in Germany being defeated.  They caused Germany to have to fight another front that drains resources.  I believe that America (along with Britain and all the other allies who fought against German) won the war and if you took a poll it's likely that most other Americans feel the same.  Maybe a more accurate description of what Americans think is that had we not entered the war, Hitler would not have been defeated but we did not accomplish it in isolation.

Answer 29

America's contribution in WWII was not merely military.  America supplied weapons and resources to nations opposing Hitler long before troops were actually sent.  Individual Americans also supported war efforts well before the US officially entered -- including flying in the RAF.  In fact, given the staggering losses suffered by the RAF during the early war, it is quite possible that the RAF could have maintained any, let alone an effective, defense against Germans raiding and bombing Britain.

Clearly the Eastern front was devastating to Hitler, but without the Allies and extremely strong support from American mounting a serious two-front campaign, it is doubtful that Hitler could have been as effectively defeated, if at all.

Answer 30

Don't forget we had the Japanese to deal with.  Our military was also at very low levels when we were hit in 1941.  It took a while to build up our forces.  Once we entered Europe it progressed but still took a while.  We could've just let you guys handle it but we decided to help you.  We sacrificed over 416,000 soldiers.

I move to London two years ago and am amazed at the amount of English who have chips on their shoulders.  So many angry and miserable people.  Even in Portugal and Spain, the English areas are the ones to be avoided.  Before I moved here I always routed for England whenever the US wasn't involved.  I felt a real kinship.  That's gone now.  We don't need your help, in fact I don't want it.  I wish you would pull out your token force from Iraq so I just don't have to listen to all the whinging.  

Oh, and the breeding with you women comment:  we're still doing that.  I asked my wife why she didn't marry an Englishman and she said,"Too short and scrawny. I wanted a man."  

Answer 31

You are apparently unaware of much of what the United States was doing several years before the United States Officially entered the war.

The United States provided large amounts of military equipment and large numbers of Americans who were not officially in the military.

For example my father worked for Lockheed Aircraft and was sent over to Ireland in 1939 to provide maintenance services for Aircraft used by the Royal Air force.

This was actually quite a dangerous assignment.

The Irish Republican was fighting Britain and was allied with Adolf HItler.

The Irish Republican killed a number of my father's friends and colleagues who were providing maintenance services for British Planes.

There were many thousands of other American Citizens who went over to Europe to support the war against Adolf Hitler several years before we officially entered the war.



Also when the United States did enter the war officially the war was far from over.

You would have lost the war without the United States of America.

You certainly are ungrateful for the help and sacrifice that the United States and millions of Americans made to save your sorry behind.

I recommend that you do not bite the hand that feeds you.