Why do Mormons believe they will become gods someday.?

Question

I am not a mormon but a Christian. I believe that mormons believe in a different god then my God. of course they say they read the KJV but they sure have some huge differences.

why do they believe they will become Gods like Jesus Christ?

Why do they believe that Satan and Jesus were brothers?

Why do they believe that Joseph Smith (the founder of mormonism) was telling the truth when he was known to be the biggest liar in town?

Has the supposed original book of mormon ever been seen?

How do mormons know that they arent being lied to by a false prophet. the bible even talks about that there will be many false prophets

Answer 1

Paul said that we are heirs of God and joint heirs with Jesus Christ. Jesus said, be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father in Heaven is perfect.

There are two kinds of brothers. Blood brothers, and spirit "brothers". We believe that, before we were born to our earth/mortal parents, we existed as spirits, with our Heavenly Father as the Father of our spirits. So, we are ALL spirit "brothers and sisters", including Jesus and yes, even Lucifer. He was not always evil. He didn't become Satan until later. But, Jesus was always God's choice as the Saviour, so no one was ever equal to Him. Lucifer was equal to us until he became Satan, who will always be a spirit and never get a body like we have. He wants one, and can't have it. So he tries to make sure that we are misrable as he is.

So, it's not "We believe Jesus and Satan are brothers". They aren't blood brothers, they NEVER were equal, and Satan will never be equal to anyone even us.

Joseph Smith was never "known to be the biggest liar in town". Many of the people who said that never even knew him at all. Those that did know him remember him as a hard worker and honest.

Yes, the "original Book of Mormon", but if you are referring to the plates that he translated it from, no, God has them.

The Bible warns against FALSE prophets, no one ever said to beware of TRUE prophets. We have TRUE prophets.

The Bible is in BAD need of strength because if it were perfect, complete and infallible, no one would be fighting over what it says, no one would question anything as far as doctrine and beliefs go. There wouldn't be numerous denominations and non-denominations. It would answer questions, not beg them.

Mormons do NOT believe in Joseph Smith over Jesus Christ, or ANYONE over Jesus Christ. Joseph Smith believed in Jesus Christ as his Lord and Saviour. Just because we don't believe as you do, or as you think we should, does not make us wrong and you right, necessarily.

That "cartoon" is the work of the over-imagination of Ed Decker, anti-Mormon extraordinaire. He hates the LDS church and openly admits that he even LIES to get people away from the church. Do you believe a liar?

If you really want to know what we believe, go to www.mormon.org. Yes, there are some things that we differ on. But those things are not thsoe things that are important for our eternal progress. People like Ed Decker make people think that the stupid things are the most important and get everyone fighting over it all. To the point where, in some countries, missionaries get shot at, and LDS chapels get bombed and he cheers them on. How sick is that?

Your belief is based on your interpretation of the Bible. And based on my interpretation of the Bible, I left the protestant church and joined the LDS church because it is the Most Biblical, IMHO.

As for godtube, before I go there, tell me why I should go there and listen to what they say, vs. what is said by men that I know to be prophets and apostles of God. Are these people who make godtube recognized by every other Christian out there as prophets and apostles of God? or are they just out there to tear down other people's faith, so that they can boost their own insecurity of faith? Because if you are truly SECURE in your faith, you don't NEED to tear down other people's faith. I don't. I totally respect the faith of other people. Do you?

Answer 2

First of all, QUIT going to godtube.com for answers on the LDS Church. That's like going to a Chevy dealer and asking about the specs on an F-150. They might know a little bit but they're not an accurate resource. The fact that you said you got your "information" from a CARTOON makes me immediately roll my eyes! Cartoons are effective for teaching 3 year olds their ABC's not teaching adults about eternal salvation.

Truth be told, some of the questions you refer to are often misunderstood by LDS members themselves. I've been a member all my life (31 years) and there are still MANY things I have yet to fully understand. That's one of the many beauties of the gospel is that there is ALWAYS something to learn.

BTW, I find it interesting and revealing that you do not pose your questions with "Do you believe..." or "Is what I read true?" Instead you ask "WHY do they believe..." You erroneously assume that what you've encountered is true.

Let me try to address your "concerns". Some I will address directly and some I will give you a link to information that is trustworthy in it's accuracy so you may study it for yourself. It would take up too much space here.

Okay, deification (aka the elevation of one to the status of godhood)...

This one I'm giving you a link because of efficiency.

http://tinyurl.com/5paoff

Please read through it.

Next, Satan and Jesus being brothers...

Jesus Christ is our one and only Savior and the Only Begotten of the Father in the flesh. However, He shares something with us in that we are ALL spirit sons and daughters of God (Heb. 12:9; Acts 17:28; Numbers 16:22) as is Christ (see also Hebrews 1:5,6; Heb. 2:9-12; Matt. 12:50; Col. 1:15; Psalms 89:27; Romans 8:29; Rev. 3:14). If we are all His spirit children that makes us all brothers and sisters in the spiritual sense. This does not mean that we believe that Satan is anything like Jesus or like anyone else on this earth. Christ differs from us in several ways, such as the fact that He alone was perfect and sinless throughout his mortal life, having served as Co-creator with God and then as our Savior. Yes, technically, Satan is the brother of Christ, but so are all of us and all the angels, both good and fallen. But anti-Mormons want to make this doctrine sound scary by leaving out the information that would explain our position, and suggesting that somehow we worship a false "Mormon" Christ who is like Satan. That's seriously misleading - and often deliberatly so.

Joseph Smith being a liar...

So I'll call you a liar. Liar. There, it's true now right?

If accusations fit your prejudices, truth is easily pushed aside.

Chew on that one for a while.

Who's seen the Book of Mormon?

There have been 12 people who have witnessed seeing the gold plates from which the Book of Mormon was translated from. As mentioned, many of them left the Church for various reasons but NOT ONE of them EVER denied what they saw.

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/bm/thrwtnss

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/bm/eghtwtns

False prophets...

Let me ask you a question. How do you know you're not following a false prophet? A person doesn't have to take on the name of "prophet" to mislead people and pull them away from the truth. I know that Joseph Smith, and all subsequent prophets, were true prophets because of another wonderful gift our Father has given us. Personal revelation. "If any of ye lack wisdom, let him ask of God..." James 1:5 It has been promised that we can recieve personal revelation from our Father in Heaven through the Holy Ghost. I have taken that challenge and received a confirmation of the truth that the gospel has been restored and that prophets of God are again upon the earth. I also know because “The sheep hear his voice: … and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. And a stranger will they not follow, … for they know not the voice of strangers.” (John 10:3–5.) I know my Shephard's voice and it brings me joy and peace.

And yes, the Book of Mormon is compatable with the Bible as is the Bible to the Book of Mormon. I find it ironic that you have no hesitancy stating "The bible is the word of God while the book of mormon has no proof of being actual fact." How is it that you can prove the Bible to be "actual fact" without relying on a witness of the Holy Ghost? Likewise it is how you will know of the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon.

Also you said, "The book of mormon apparently is to be used to add to the bible which the bible strongly rejects adding to it." Nowhere will you find Latter-Day Saints saying that we are "adding" to the Bible. The Book of Mormon is ANOTHER testament of Jesus Christ. And using the argument of the Bible rejecting adding to it is old and flawed. The Bible itself is a compilation of many writings. The Bible wasn't even written yet when the scripture in Revelations says not to add to it. John was refering to the book of Revelations itself. If that's the arguement that you're going to use then you better throw out over half of your Bible because the whole thing is stuff that was "added".

and BTW, Suola answers EVERY question like that. I doubt he's a Mormon and if he is, he's very confused. (No offense Suola but at least answer people's questions. No one likes a cut n' paste job.)

Answer 3

1 - Coz they do. You believe all kinds of 'Christian' stuff. Just because your belief has been around longer, doesn't make it any more correct. try to remember that YOUR religion is a hotch-potch of other faiths, amendments and convenient editing - like ANY other faith...

Christianity is seen, by SOME, to be a religion that practices 'ritualistic pseudo-caniballism!

2 - It was a typo - They meant SANTA!

3 - Joseph Smith - was simply a good salesman - no different to the TV evangelists of today. Joseph Smith, Charles T Russell. Emperor Constantine - what's the difference. They ALL espouse THEIR religion as the 'truth'

4 - As far as I can remember, the 'original' gold plates were never seen by anyone except Mr Smith. There's every chance that your previous question - about the truthfulness of JS is the answer to this question too.

4 - They  DON'T know - any more that YOU do, or the jews or muslims or scientologists! It's FAITH. Surely if you believe in something and live your life by that creed - it's enough. I personally just feel that NOT acting like a D**k to people is enough of path to follow without subscribing to the 'business' of religion.

Answer 4

That's what they've been taught.

What about YOUR beliefs? Let me ask you: Why do you believe that the Father, Son, and the holy spirit make one God when  Jesus clearly said at John 17:3 that the Father is the ONLY true God?

Why do you believe that a loving God will torture the wicked forever in a fiery h**l?

Why do you believe Jesus is God when he clearly said at John 10:36: "I am the Son of God"?

Why do you believe Jesus is equal to his Father, when Jesus so clearly said: "The Father is greater than I am"? (John 14:28)

Why do you believe that all good people go to heaven when Ps. 37:29 says: "The righteous themselves will possess the earth, And they will reside forever upon it"?

Why do you believe it's all right to lie to your children and tell them that some fat man on a sleigh brought them toy when Jesus said that worshiping God is based on "spirit and truth"? John 4:23, 24.

If Easter is the celebration of Jesus' resurrection, why do you teach your children that bunnies make chocolate eggs?

Before you criticize Mormons for what you may consider as "odd" beliefs, I suggest you look into what YOU believe in the light of the Bible.

Answer 5

First off I have to tell you that I'm not a Latter-Day Saint. But awhile ago I was like you, I was very critical of the LDS church because my husbands sister converted and I felt that some of their beliefs were odd. So after criticizing them for awhile I realized that I should gather all the facts so I could have a really good argument against the LDS church. So I looked on the LDS website and I also actually talked to a missionary. What I found instead was that although I may not agree with some of their teachings, they are genuinely good Christian people who are doing their best to serve the Lord and do His work. You may feel that they're misguided in their beliefs, but then again they probably feel the same way about your beliefs, but I have yet to see an LDS members post a question ranting about how wrong non-LDS denominations are. The truth of the whole matter is that we are all Christians and most of us are doing our best to live a good and Christian life. Instead of criticizing the Latter-Day Saints we should embrace them as we embrace our other Christian brothers and sisters. Nothing gets accomplished by criticizing others, if you are curious about their faith and want to learn more, than look at more credible sources. You are entitled to disagree with their faith, but do you really think if Jesus were here right now, he would be so critical?  

Answer 6

I am Mormon, and I will tell you what Mormons believe, so you can hear it straight from a Mormon and not hear it from a third party or anti Mormon source.

1) We do not believe that we will become like Jesus CHrist.  He is our Savior, the Redeemr of the world and atoned for our sins.   No one can replace Jesus Christ, nor can anyone come close to becoming Jesus Christ. There is only one Jesus Christ and he is our Savior.   By no other name, by no other means, by no other way can a person be saved from their sins excpet by and through the Lord Jesus Christ.

We do belive that into the eternities, we can and do progress.   If we could not so progress, why would God command us to be perfect, even as he is perfect?  That implies that God has the expectation of us that we will (someday) become perfect.   That is what happens in heaven into the eternities.  We will eternally progress, improve, grow, and become able to reach our full potential.  That potential is to be perfect even as our Father in heaven is perfect.  (Matthew 5:48)

We can become "godlike" in our prgression, but we will never replace God or be on par withGod.

2)  We believe that God created all things spiritually before they were created physically.   God is our parent, our heavenly father.  See Acts

17:28-29

28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

  29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device.

God said that all things are created by him.  John 1:3

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

If we are all his offspring, and he created everything, including the angels, including us, that would also include Satan, the angel who was cast out of heaven for rebellion. (See Revealtions 12:7-9)

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

  8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in aeaven.

  9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

So by logic, if we are all the offspring of God, and Jesus Christ is the Only begotten Son of God (an offspring) and the angels are created by God, it would be assumed that we all have a common Father, God the Father of us all.  That would make us all brothers and sisters.  Not just Jesus and Satan. All of us would be the offspring of God.

But here is an important point. This brotherly relationship is just speculation and logical.  It is NOT, and I repeat, NOT a topic of gospel study in the LDS Church.  We do not talk about this as doctrine.

Yet. so many non Mormon atagonists have come across some old Mormon writings of leaders of old, who were just speculating these kinds of relationships, and then continue to draw the erroneous conclusion that LDS Mormons teach this concept.  We do not.

3)  "Joseph Smith known to be the biggest liar in town."  This is subjective, undocumented hearsay statement.   It is a matter of opinion.      Joseph Smiht, while arrested in his life some 38 times, was NEVER ever convicted of anything.    What he testified about has now garnered some 13 million members worldwide and growing.

But, if you say Joseph Smith was ridiculed and persecuted I will not disageree. He was.  But such places him in very good comapny. Christ taught us that we would be hated and persecuted for his names sake.  

See Luke 6:22

  22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man’s sake.

Kind of precisely what Christ himself told us would happen.

If you say adding to the Bible is wrong, why do many Christians believe in the Nicean Creed about the trinity?  That was formed 400 years after the Bible and certainly could be seen as an "addition."

  

Answer 7

First of all.

You're a dumb ....

Why are you asking a question when you aren't willing to accept the answers.

Tst tst.

Answer 8

I know they have some strange beliefs and like all non Catholic Churches they all have their own peculiar belief that set's them apart from other Church's. But Satan is described in the bible not like the Horned evil looking personage that has been portrayed through the centuries but as a beautiful deceiving personage and that makes sense as it is much easier to get caught up in beauty and excitement than ugly and horrible looking and acting. Also the Bible say's by there works you shall know them but Jesus also said i have other sheep that are not of this flock and he must go to them. So do i feel they are of the other flock ? Well not really but then i'm not GOD.

Answer 9

Ironically most of those beliefs come from reading the KJV, but the way in which you've stated them tends to indicate that someone has misinformed you, I'll try to set this straight.

We don't believe that we can become Gods like Jesus Christ.  But we do believe in the words and promises of Jesus Christ that are clearly laid out in the bible.  Those who come unto Him can share the sames oneness that He shares with the Father (John 17:20-23).  This is clearly stated many times in the bible and in essence is how the grace of Jesus covers our sins, we become one with Him which is noted in such phrases as parables with Him being the groom and stated that we shall be joint-heirs with Christ.  Yet none of us believe that we could be equal to Him or greater than Him because without Him we couldn't attain anything.  God is not jealous of His own goodness and in His state of perfect He has called His children to be like Him.  Many Christian churches believe this also, those who don't aren't reading the bible.

The phrase "Jesus and Satan were brothers" is a sure tell sign that you are listening to someone intent on influencing your outlook on the LDS church rather than educating you about it.  That's a deceitful term in many ways.  Jesus is the Son of God, He clearly says this over and over so there can be no argument there.  Satan is a creation of God's, we see that plainly in Job, Isaiah, and elsewhere in the bible or else he would be co-equal to God.  Being a creation of God, or fallen angel as traditional Christianity believes, he could also be called a son of God, as you or I.  Whoever told you that now should explain how Satan could be anything other than Jesus's brother - in so doing you would have to recognize other creators or Fathers, or dismiss Jesus as being the Son of God.

Joseph Smith wasn't known as the biggest lair in town.  If you think about it someone is feeding you a 2nd grade argument.  Rather than defending that ridiculous notion (which is already defended by the fact that many of those who knew him personally joined the church he restored) we might turn again to the New Testament in which Jesus states "a prophet is without honour in his own town".  None of the prophets of old were accepted by all their community, you can't listen to someone telling you that he's not trustworthy because some though him a lair while telling you to have faith in Christ, who some thought was also a lair yet we know to be the sinless Christ.

The Book of Mormon was seen and witnessed by 11 men, many of whom later went against Joseph Smith yet none could deny their witness of the Book.  It it's pages are an irrefutable testimony of Jesus Christ.

Great question.  Most of us have asked God personally to reveal His truth ot us.  So I know personally, nobody could tell me, I had to go to God in prayer and ask Him.  My answer was clear and provided knowledge unequivocal in my life in terms of truth, God spoke directly to my heart and I know. The bible also says that there will be prophets, one cannot categorically call all future prophets liars or they are the ones who become false Prophets themselves.

A few things should be learned from this:  

First of all anyone telling you some of the cliche items listed above is not dealing in love or truth.

Second you should learn a bit about LDS by going to the source.

Third, if you love the Lord you should at least read the Book of Mormon for yourself.  Make your own opinion of it rather than listen to those who use fear and arguments to keep you away.  If you know Jesus then you should be able to see if He's found in the Book of Mormon as well as the bible.  Be leary of anyone who tells you that you know Him but scares you out of building your knowledge base.

Nathan:  Of course you got the info from a video on godtube; just because it's on godtube doen't make it true!

I'm sure that if I look at all it has to offer on mormonism it will be the same as the youtube anti-mormon stuff.

Learning about my religion from those sources is like trying to learn about Christianity from Christopher Hitchens (author of "God is not great" and a strong athiest).

In the end, you wind up in a state of utter confusion which is worse than ignorance - you have the illusion that you know what we beleive when all you've listened to is a presentation that distorts the facts about my religion in order to cast it in a light that's easier to mock.

I suggest you take a lesson from how our teachings in church are.  Jesus Christ is the focus of every lesson and every meeting.  We don't do anything (or shouldn't at least) that doesn't focus on Him.  

When given the opportunity to reach a crowd, why not speak of Jesus Christ?  Those who don't are missing the boat.   They sit looking in another direction worried about someone else - we don't!  We don't discuss why this religion is wrong, we don't even spend too much time discussing why our religion is right (that's the spirit's job) - we spend precious time discussing Jesus Christ.

The following is the video collection from LDS general conference.  Watch a few for yourself, not only will you see a focus on Jesus Christ, but you'll be doing something you don't seem to have done before which is educationg yourself from our point of view.

http://lds.org/conference/sessions/displ...

Without that personal and constructive frame, you could never really be educated enough on another point of view in order to have a real discussion on it.

My calmness and lack of offense stems from education about mainstream and fundimentalist Christians from their sources - that education breeds respect even if it doesn't make me agree with everything.

You would benefit in doing that as well.

Answer 10

That's a lot of questions to answer all in one.  I will give it a try but some of the questions you have posed require more space and time to explain fully.  If you would like to continue the conversation about the Mormon church just click on my picture and email me.

I am a Mormon so I feel I qualify to answer.

Why do we believe that we will become Gods?  We don't believe that we all will become Gods, only that we have the possibility to become like God, and perhaps eventually, over eons of time become a God. We do not believe that we will ever replace God.  He is supreme and above all.  Do you believe that Jesus will replace his father?  No!  But he has done all that is necessary to become like him.

Romans 8: 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

Why do we believe that Satan and Jesus are brothers?  Are we not all brothers and sisters through our shared lineage with God who is our father?  You might not want to be related to the guy who has comitted a murder but the fact is that we are all related as sons and daughters of God.  You do not understand about what happened before we came to earth.  We do.  Through additional scriptures that we have and through modern day revelation given to the prophets we know these things.  Do you really think that you did not exist before?  Then you do not know your Bible.  

Jerimiah 1:4-5  Then the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Job 38: 4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

  5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

  6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

  7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Revelations 12: 7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

  8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

  9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Now, let me ask you,  who told you that Joseph Smith was a liar?  Have you considered their motivations?  Do you have an open enough mind to consider that if God talked to Moses, Abraham, Isaiah, and other prophets that he might have chosen Joseph Smith as well?  Have you thought that if you were God who would you choose to speak to in this dispensation of time?  Someone who was set in their ways or perhaps a humble and innocent 14 year old who just might listen?  I challenge you to study his words and see his life from a different perspective, not just the one you have been hand fed to believe by those who are afraid of what might happen to them if Joseph Smith was a prophet!

The Gold plates which the record of the Book of Mormon was written on was seen and handled by a total of 11 people.  All 11 to their death bed never denied their witness of the validity of the Book of Mormon.  

It says in the introduction of the Book of Mormon: "In addition to Joseph Smith, the Lord provided for eleven others to see the gold plates for themselves and to be special witnesses of the truth and divinity of the Book of Mormon. Their written testimonies are included herewith as “The Testimony of Three Witnesses” and “The Testimony of Eight Witnesses.”

Now about how we know we are not being lied to.  Personal revelation given to us through prayer.  You see, that we believe in what Jesus said in John 14:26

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. John 14:26

We do not think that God has stopped talking to mankind.  I have personally had a witness of the validity of the Book of Mormon and of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.  I have prayed about it.  I have felt the power of the Holy Ghost in my life and know it is true.

You can feel this too if you have a sincere heart and a real desire.  Open your mind and do not be afraid of the truth.  The truth will set you free.  The truth will also bring so much happiness and direction to your life that you will wonder what you ever did before you found it.  This is my promise to you!

Answer 11

Lovin' LineDancer's answer!!

So, will you answer the questions? Because the answers to those questions are the same reasons the LDS believe what they do.

Or will you ignore the questions and go ahead shamelessly bashing the LDS?

Answer 12

Why do various sects of christians believe in the "trinity" - the "trinity" is nowhere in the bible.

The "godhead" which the LDS profess belief in is mentioned several times in the new testament.  

Where do christians claim authority for their doctrine? The bible itsself says pertaining to authority to preach the word of God and administer in the ordinances (IN the new testament) that "No man taketh this honor to himself except he be called of God as was Aaron" yet we see millions of preachers who claim to teach the word of God and have authority but violate this principle that is written in their own text.

It all comes down to interpretations - and Peter tells us the scriptures are of no private interpretation and only a prophet can declare them, and without authority, the interpretation cannot be ascertained....so where does christianity stand on so many principles?

Believing in Jesus is Great - but you have to believe what he taught and his apostles taught and these things are ignored left and right by many sects of christianity.  

  The bible does not say you cannot add to it.  The book of revelations says you cannot add to the book of revelations.

Different sects of christianity removed entire books from the bible and took away from the word of God - forget adding to it - and they retranslate it a million times over and change the words - adding words - taking out words which changes the meaning - how many versions of the bible are there?

It warns against false prophets - it doesn't say there will be no more.  If God doesn't change - then there has to be prophets called to preach the word of God.   People who are in contradiction to the word of God by taking authority upon themselves and interpreting privately the word is not scriptural.

Joseph claimed authority from peter james and John and John the Baptist and Elijah and Jesus Christ themselves....