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Why do MusIim man have the right to beat their malicious/disobedient wives but women don't (can't)...?

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...beat their malicious/disobedient husbands?

Didn't AlIah know that men can be "malicious" as well?

How is that equal?

(Please don't explain wife-beating and that it can only be done in certain/extreme situations, those certain situation can also happen the other way round, but women can never beat men)

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  1. In Islam, you CAN'T beat your wife.


  2. The verse in question is 4:34. For simplicity I’ll only cite what many interpret as 'Beat Them', (Arab.: idribuhunna)  from the root ‘Daawd - Raa - Ba.’  Beating or striking isn’t the  only meaning of this word. Focusing on this meaning alone says a lot about the Muslim men justifying beating their wives and non-Muslims trying to prove the Quran to be a book of horror and crime. The meaning to focus on should be the definition most often used in Classical Arabic dictionaries and lexicons. The root in The Dictionary of the Holy Quran by Abdul Mannan Omar (a Classical Arabic dictionary) and Lane's Arabic-English Lexicon, appears to most often use ‘leaving/journeying/quitting something or walking away from a thing’ & parable citing to illustrate examples.

    These meanings God uses most often in His Book. ( 2:273, 14:24, 13:18, 43:57, 4:95, 43:5, 18:11) So it  puzzles me that scholars  choose ‘beat’ to define Idribu. Another word which  means to beat/strike/hurt/inflict pain is Ijlidu (24:2, 24:4) from Jiim - Laam - Dal. It’s  primary meaning is to hit, hurt the skin and flog. God could have made it very clear that men are to hit or flog their wives by simply using the above. A clearer example is Waw-Kaf-Zaa (28:15) . Literally to physically strike with a hand, fist or any object, this word leaves no doubt in its meaning!!

    If God wanted  men to beat their wives, He could have very easily said ‘kizoohunna’ and there wouldn’t be a question if God commanded men to beat their wives. But he did not do this. So, obviously this is not God’s remedy for marital discord. A book is sometimes only as good as it's reader. The disposition of a person will determine how he understands the Quran. Moral convictions determine how he will interpret it and will determine which definitions he will gravitate towards and support. With that, I wish to remind everyone of 3:7 where God has explained this situation to us.

    The Prophet of Allah (s) said do not beat your wives even with the twig of a basil leaf

  3. The beating is meant to be light....the purpose isn't pain, but more of embarrassment.  (and the commentary says to use a toothbrush).  

    If the man is a bad person...and the woman tried to make a point by hitting him with a toothbrush.....well then he more than likely will beat the c**p out of her.    The type of person the verse allows the beating to.....in the case of a man will more than likely lead to the woman getting physically abused.  

  4. i would like to beat u up, Muslim men dont beat their wives.  

  5. Muslim men are not allowed to beat their wives. The word often translated as "beat" in the verse you quoted has dozens of possible meanings, "beat" being only one of them. Given that we are supposed to follow the example of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, who all agree never physically hurt his wives in any way, the chance of that word meaning "beat" in this particular circumstance is completely non-existent. Muslim men who use this verse as an excuse to beat their wives, even slightly, are clearly disobeying the Qur'an and the Sunnah.

  6. In nature men are stronger than women, you idiot. Ever thought of that?

    Btw, beating is never the answer and muslim men don't beat their wives!  


  7. Ha!!

    I knew that you were going to paste that verse, that's why I didn't answered you!!!!

    The verse you mention has been greatly misconceived by many people who focus merely on its surface meaning, taking it to allow wife beating. When the setting is not taken into account, it isolates the words in a way that distorts or falsifies the original meaning. Before dealing with the issue of wife-battering in the perspective of Islam, we should keep in mind that the original Arabic wording of the Qur'an is the only authentic source of meaning. If one relies on the translation alone, one is likely to misunderstand it.

    The Qur'an is very clear on this issue. Almighty Allah says: "Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more strength than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient and guard in the husband's absence what Allah would have them to guard. As to those women on whose part you fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance); for Allah is most High and Great (above you all). If you fear a breach between them twain, appoint (two) arbiters, one from his family and the other from hers. If they wish for peace, Allah will cause their reconciliation; for Allah has full knowledge and is acquainted with all things." (An-Nisa': 34-35)

    It is important to read the section fully. One should not take part of the verse and use it to justify one's own misconduct. This verse neither permits violence nor condones it. It guides us to ways to handle delicate family situation with care and wisdom. The word "beating" is used in the verse, but it does not mean "physical abuse". The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) explained it "dharban ghayra mubarrih" which means "a light tap that leaves no mark". He further said that face must be avoided. Some other scholars are of the view that it is no more than a light touch by siwak, or toothbrush.

    Pasting verses out of context is really easy, I would love to do that if I was a basher :)

  8. well men should not beat their wives

    that is not the soultion to anything

    Beating is never ever the soultion to anything

    it is very wrong to beat ur wife

    bcuz if, even by accident, u beat her and maybe you may hit her on the worng place and injure her

    and maybe the man will regeret it for the rest of his life

    so its best to do the right thing and not to regret

    bcuz nothing cant be done after

  9. They are living from a code set by a baby raping lunatic of 2 thousand years ago...why progress now if it worked back then?

  10. why cant women beat their husbands lol  

  11. Wife beating anytime and for any reason is never allowed in Islam. There is however a questionable condition where Allah Almighty seems to allow the husband to beat his wife, and that is after he gives her two warnings to stop showing ill-conduct and disloyalty.

    Let us look at Noble Verses 4:34-36 "(34). Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all). (35). If ye fear a breach between them twain, appoint (two) arbiters, one from his family, and the other from hers; if they wish for peace, Allah will cause their reconciliation: For Allah hath full knowledge, and is acquainted with all things. (36). Serve Allah, and join not any partners with Him; and do good- to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbours who are near, neighbours who are strangers, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess: For Allah loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious;"

    The Arabic word used in Noble Verse 4:34 above is "idribuhunna", which is derived from "daraba" which means "beat".  The issue with all of the Arabic words that are derived from the word "daraba" is that they don't necessarily mean "hit".  The word "idribuhunna" for instance, could very well mean to "leave" them.  It is exactly like telling someone to "beat it" or "drop it" in English.

    Allah Almighty used the word "daraba" in Noble Verse 14:24 "Seest thou not how Allah sets (daraba) forth a parable? -- A goodly Word Like a goodly tree, Whose root is firmly fixed, And its branches (reach) To the heavens".  "daraba" here meant "give an example".  If I say in Arabic "daraba laka mathal", it means "give you an example".  Allah Almighty also used the word "darabtum", which is derived from the word "daraba" in Noble Verse 4:94, which mean to "go abroad" in the sake of Allah Almighty: "O ye who believe! When ye go abroad (darabtum) In the cause of Allah,

    Investigate carefully, And say not to anyone Who offers you a salutation: 'Thou art none of a Believer!' Coveting the perishable good Of this life: with Allah Are profits and spoils abundant.  Even thus were ye yourselves Before, till Allah conferred On you His favours: therefore Carefully investigate.  For Allah is well aware Of all that ye do.   (The Noble Quran, 4:94)"

    So "daraba" literally means "beat", or "go abroad", or "give" but not in the sense to give something by hand, but rather to give or provide an example.

    Important Note:  Notice how Allah Almighty in Noble Chapter (Surah) 4 He used "daraba (4:34" and "darabtum (4:94)", which are both derived from the same root.  He used both words in the same Chapter, which tells me that "daraba" in Noble Verse 4:34 means to desert or leave, since that's what its derived word meant in Noble Verse 4:94.   The next section below will further prove my point. I am sure there are more Noble Verses that used words derived from "daraba" in the Noble Quran, but these are the only ones I know of so far.  In the case of Noble Verse 4:34 where Allah Almighty seems to allow men to hit their wives after the two warnings for ill-conduct and disloyalty, it could very well be that Allah Almighty meant to command the Muslims to "leave" the home all together and desert their wives for a long time in a hope that the wives would then come back to their senses and repent.

    Noble Verses and Sayings that support the prohibition of any type of wife beating: The following Noble Verses and Sayings from the Noble Quran and Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him respectively seem to very well support the above interpretation:

    Conclusion:

    According to the Noble Quran and the Sayings of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him above, wife beating in Islam is definitely prohibited, possibly even in the case where the wife fails after she was warned twice for her ill-conduct and disloyalty. It is definetly a valid interpretation for Noble Verse 4:34 that Allah Almighty commanded the Muslim men to desert and leaves their wives, and not to physically beat them as many scholars believe. I personally favor this non-violent interpretation, because (1) It is very well supported in Islam as clearly and unquestionably shown above; and (2) It makes more sense and seems more practical in dealing with the bad wife who insists on showing ill-conduct and disloyalty toward her husband and family.

  12. Muslim men DONT have the right to beat their wives!! Where do you people get this stuff, and if i was married and my husband tried to hit me i would karate chop his ***.

  13. beating is haram in islam

    men women are equal  

  14. Well, it really depends on which version of the Quran that you go by. They say different things. Some say "beat", some say "beat (lightly)" and some say "scourge". Some give more rights and respect to wives and some give different reasons for a husbands dominance (some don't even say that the husband is dominant at all).

    (Rodwell's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)

    "Men are superior to women on account of the qualities with which God has gifted the one above the other, and on account of the outlay they make from their substance for them. Virtuous women are obedient, careful, during the husband's absence, because God has of them been careful. But chide those for whose refractoriness you have cause to fear; remove them into beds apart, and scourge them: but if they are obedient to you, then seek not occasion against them: verily, God is High, Great!" (Rodwell's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)

    (Dawood's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)

    "Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme."

    (Pickthall's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)

    "Men are in charge of women, because Allah has made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah has guarded. As for those from whom you fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High Exalted, Great."

    (Arberry's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)

    "Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that God has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for God's guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; God is All high, All great."

    (Shakir's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)

    "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

    (Ali's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)

    "Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whom part you fear disloyalty and ill conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance) for Allah is Most High, Great (above you all).

    As you can see...they are all quite different. So, it really depends on which version of the Quran that the wife adheres to as opposed to what version of the Quran that the husband adheres to. But, yes...everyone has seen some version of this verse. The disagreement stems from their being different versions.

    Have a great day. God bless.

  15. Just look at the "we don't ask why" answer. They blindly follow whatever that is written without thinking. If the religion said l**k your faeces, they'd l**k it without saying why.  

  16. yo, muslim woman can do it... but if they tried we men would **** them up....

    ohh allah said woman are inferior, praise allah

  17. we do not ask Allah "why"


  18. Nice question.  I also asked a similar question.  I asked why men can only go to soccer matches and women can't?  I never got an answer, just like you apparently won't get one.

    Yes, muslim men are very disobedient, especially in the internet.  I have "seen" many of them misbehaving and still pronouncing the phrase "Insh'allah"

    That's why Jesus Christ said not to go astray for other FAlse prophets will come in His name to confuse His Sheep.

    And that is what is going on.  Christians have Free Will.  Muslims must obey what is written even if it says to jump off a cliff.  And I do not think our God would ask us to beat our women, for He would not be a Loving God.

    On the contrary, He asks us to forgive and continue walking the right path.  Jesus Christ did not stone the prostitute nor condemned her.  He forgave her and commanded her not to sin anymore.  HOw Difficult is that in the Islamic world???

    NOt even in extreme or certain situations should a man hit a woman.  Women should be respected at all, period.  There is no excuse for violence, for wife abuse.

    Of course, they have not learned a Thing from Jesus Christ, even though They claimed that Jesus Christ was another prophet, and even so, they have not learned a thing still.

    If she is so malicious, then divorce them.  As easy as that.

  19. First of all ,Let's just stop thinking non-muslim couples are all the replica of Romeo and Juliet . Islam is a pragmatic religion which focuses on the results instead of alluring words . You might call this an apocryphal justification and I don't actually care But you're just reading english words translated from Arabic to Egnlish and you know Arabic isn't like English . Some Arabic words could have over 70 meanings and it completely depends on the translator which meaning is to be choosen . That word you've been trying to use against us , has been used over 10 times in different parts of Koran with different meanings . You translate it as to beat your wife but according to other parts of Koran in which this word has been used, I can translate it as to avoid your wife or forgive your wife or leave her , or even as to determine a law ! That's why when prophet's wives disobeyed him , he left the house for a month .

    Apart from all , Muslim men do not beat their wives as the prophet of Islam commanded , "Do not beat your wife even by a thin stem of a sweet basil !"

    Let's just stop childishly struggling over papers and inks . You better consider what Islam has presented to women in real life and what God really means by what he says in Koran .

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