Why do Obama haters think he will tax everyone unfairly?

Question

Look at this graph that was created based on the FACTUAL information from each platform:

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk272/hannahhassett/ObamasTaxPlan.gif

It basically says that if you vote for McCain and have a high income you will have a big tax break and if you're poor you'll have a small tax break.

Obama's basically says that if you earn less money you will have a large tax break and if you make a LOT of money you will pay more tax. This make perfect and logical sense. Notice how all the rich people in America can flex their pocketbooks to try to scare the poor and cut deals under the table so that McCain wins.

This site here will allow you to calculate how much your tax will change between Obama and McCain: http://alchemytoday.com/obamataxcut/

So unless you make over $226,982 per year I really don't see why you would complain and go on about Obama is going to increase taxes... because if you make less than this amount per year then you will actually receive a bigger tax cut.

Answer 1

Because he will. Boy, you have no clue!

Answer 2

And why are you Obamiates falling for the oldest liberal line in the book, that he's only going after "the rich," when it will harm everyone? Why do you continue in your stupid, false logic?

Also, why don't you self-deport yourself from America and take your Obama with you to an island somewhere?

Answer 3

if a tax break is fair then those who make more should get more of a break. simple. 10% of 1,000,000 is more than 10% of 10,000. You should learn more about the difference in tax rates, the "rich" pay more already, that not fair. This class envy and warfare does not do the country any good.

Just say no to Obama.

Answer 4

If you believe that... then you must believe the BS in "An Inconvenient Truth"

Answer 5

It for the same reason they believe Obama caused global warming and caused war with Iraq.... anyone else see the attack adds?

Answer 6

the only hear what they have been told by the right winged propaganda machine.

they don't care about the truth.

they have been bombarded by lies and even the few that do care about the truth are smoothered by the lies.

you are absolutely right, it is unfair.

I have no idea what part of 95% of Americans getting a tax cut that they don't get.

Answer 7

Taxes need to be paid.

He will do so wisely.

We are at war now.

Who is going to foot the bill for the armours and weapons?

Answer 8

You are right, the people who disagree are wrong.  If you think about it, giving tax cuts to billionaires is actually a huge tax on the middle class because it destroys the value of the dollar by driving up the deficit, and when the value of the dollar goes down on the world market, the prices of everything you buy go UP--inflation.  That is what has happened and it has happened because of the Republicans' tax cuts for billionaires financed by borrowing from Communist China--and losing our economic soverignty to Communist dictators along the way.  

Answer 9

capital gains?

retirement savings?

these need to be factored in.

income tax is not what i really am concerned with.

it's one of the smaller taxes imposed upon you and i.

Answer 10

because he will,a disaster for small business in america.

Answer 11

Quit calling me a hater.  I am just a well educated person who votes on issues not on speeches and rhetoric.  

Do you really think that all the government programs he is wants to put and place will only hit the pockets of those making over 226k a year?  

Everyone of us will have to pay.  And those in the middle class will pay more.

Keep drinking your kool aid.

McCain 2008

Answer 12

Because they don't have any brains in their heads and actually BELIEVE what Rush Limbaugh and FOX News spit out.  It always disgusts me that there are so many lazy and ignorant people in this country.

Answer 13

So I make over a million dollars a year, own more then 200 rental properties, and I'm suppose to get taxed more on my hard earned money because I made something of myself?

I'm sorry the BK worker dropped out of school and is a complete failure so I should get taxed more and pay for his welfare.  I dont think so!

Answer 14

That is what haters do - lie as Karl Rove has instructed GOP to do

Answer 15

haha. because he's a stupid, socialist, annoying,liberal .

Answer 16

Forget about all those numbers.

Obama is going to tax everyone unfairly and so will McCain. As all did in the past.

Fair tax is impossible. You have to take the whole system down and move to a service based system where everyone pays for the service received. Taxation means that money is taken at gun point from those who work and create wealth and distributed by the government according to its own political agenda.

It's easy to create the illusion of fairness when you get from the pool or when you (think) don't get your money taken. But those like me that work hard and create real wealth, we know that it's not fair.

The difference between you and me is that I don't care if Bill Gates (or whoever) makes thousands of billions per year. I care about the money I make and I deserve to keep. Socialists use the excuse of the ultra multi super billionaires that make so much money but the truth is that they take from everyone and the cut is HUGE. Every time you tax someone who produce wealth, the tax is transferred to the price of the product. No matter what. That increase in the price is paid by the one who buys the end product because everyone in the manufacturing chain and distribution chain does the same. It's not because they're evil, it's because that's how you run a business. Tax is cost. Socialist economist have their own rationals to explain that they're not but that's just pure BS. Tax is cost, adds to the cost, and if you set your business based on real costs not counting taxes, you're an idiot and you'll be out of the market soon. Business that don't make profit don't survive, you have to make profits above taxes or there's no reason to have a business at all.

So, do the math. Go to the government web site where you can find statistical information and get gross product for a period and government spending for the same period. Federal, state and local.

Divide total spending (all three, deduct transfers from the federal government to local and state governments, I want to be fair like an Obama's tax plan :oP ) over gross produce and multiply by 100. The number you get is the percentage cost of the government. For the year 2006 in the USA is almost 40%, 20% for the federal government, barely above 10% for the state and less than 10% local. I'll get back to this in a minute.

The meaning of this number is that when you spend a dollar, you get 60 cts worth of goods or services and 40 cts go to the government. 60 cts pay for the raw material, manufacturing, distribution, etc. Real cost. 40 cts are for what? what's the added value you get in return?

I'm sure that you can mention many things that the government does that add value to that product. Let's say roads. You use roads to transport that product and it adds to the cost. But that's service that can be paid with a fee to those who uses it. If I decide not to use the road, manufacture and distribute locally, why do I have to pay for that road? Let's say that my product is A and someone manufactures B thousands of miles away. With taxes I pay for the road that allows B to compete with me at the same price. With service fees, B has to pay for the extra cost to compete with me, the same way that I'd have to pay for the extra cost to compete with B. Sounds familiar? Local production going down due to competition from bigger companies from somewhere else? Corporations benefit from the infrastructure that you pay with your taxes. Because the infrastructure is not meant for your benefit, is for a "greater good".

You think that your 40 cts pay for security? Most likely you're not going to spend that dollar, you're going to loose it, you're going to loose wages and you're going to pay for medical care. The federal government is not in charge of your security, neither is the state government. The local government gets the smaller cut and, because the police is paid extra with federal and state funds (from your tax money), they privilege enforcing federal and state policies over your security. So, you are the victim of a crime, lost your dollar, and you're going to jail because during the police raid in response to your call to 911, they found a marijuana cigarette. Of course your case is dismissed. You were not a victim of a crime, it was a drug related altercation...

From a freedom perspective, tax money has to be taken at gun point. Either your wages are garnished or added to the price of goods or taken from your bank account. Any other case, you send the money or the "sheriff of rothingham" is going to knock at your door with a swat team backing him up. Your house taken from you, your car, your property, etc. You either pay or get your life destroyed, if you're lucky. If you're not, you also end up in jail (see Ed and Elaine Brown's case).

With service fees, no violence is required. You don't want road service, don't pay for it, you're not allowed in those roads. You don't want water and sewer, find your own solution but your not allowed to take

Answer 17

Because they believe whatever Fox news tells them to believe.

Answer 18

They have nothing but fear and falsehoods to run on, no record or leadership, no ideas or answers.

Answer 19

I don't hate Obama, but he will let the Bush tax breaks expire and won't count that as a tax hike. It WILL raise my taxes. Also, so far, at least up till last night, Obama has proposed $873 BILLION in new social policies. Do you think the increased taxes on the rich are going to cover that? You can't count Iraq money because that isn't revenue, it's borrowed. So where does the money come from.

Ding, ding, ding! The middle class...

Your sources are photobucket and an obama pumping site, LOL!!! Try common sense and simple mathmatics as opposed to political sites.

Answer 20

That's what that side does. What else do they have? We outnumber the rich. It's just the way it is. Obama recognizes that we have a problem and so he knows that he cannot raise our taxes because it will just exacerbate the problem. Obama is not perfect by any means. Our government is corrupt. It's not working for the people but Obama is our best and pretty much only viable chance to get some relief. McCain is just going to bring more of the same because that has been working for him and his friends. It's not working for regular people like us. That's why we need to put our support behind Obama even if we aren't too jazzed about him. I want Dennis Kucinich. I think he's the best candidate for the position to represent the people. He knows he has to balance with the interests of business. He's smart and astute. He's been in politics for many years but hasn't lost his principles. He may be the only one left with real principles. But since he's not an option and I don't think a 3rd party candidate can win if the past is any indicator and I believe that it is.

edit: Fear is a powerful human emotion. People are afraid and so vote against their own interests. I have done it. You have to be really strong and have faith that you are doing the right thing. There is uncertainty but the uncertainty exists with both sides. The fact is that the government doesn't care about the people because many people have become apathetic and complacent. It's our fault.

Answer 21

he is a democrat

Answer 22

Because he will first eliminate Bush's tax cuts thus raising everyone's rates and then cut some rates but not to the degree that they were under Bush..

Answer 23

It is all the other taxes (gas, electric, sales, etc) that will rise.  See, these are the taxes no one pays attention too.  He will not raise income tax because his plan is to raise all the others.

Answer 24

Because often the democrats run on the message of big tax breaks for the middle class and then when they get elected they end up raising taxes on the middle class. The simple fact is **** rolls down hill like money and breaks if you tax the upper class higher they will pass it onto you in increased prices and fees. You have to make tax breaks without raising taxes to make any difference. Why should anyone pay for social security to be fixed when it's because of democrats dipping into it over the past 40 years it's having problems? Why should any americans pay to fix something they messed up. And social security was never meant to be a retirement fund...it was meant to be set aside in case we had another depression. And i have to also comment on this one.

"If you think about it, giving tax cuts to billionaires is actually a huge tax on the middle class because it destroys the value of the dollar by driving up the deficit, and when the value of the dollar goes down on the world market, the prices of everything you buy go UP--inflation. "

Exactly how does giving the rich tax breaks drive up the deficit? I'd love for you to explain this one.

Answer 25

Because he will.  As it is today, 1/3 of my income goes to federal income tax alone.  Not state.  Not sales.  Not real estate.  FEDERAL.

And under this clown, even more.  He's going to raise my taxes beyond their current level????@@?

Why on earth should I work so hard?  Why should I build a business and employ others?  Just to have everything taxerd away?

There  remains zero incentive incentive to me to produce more, to build a business, to create jobs............

As bad as it is today (and its bad) under this clown Its an incentive for me to STOP.  To get a job that doesnt even begin to scratch the surface of what I am capable of doing or producing.

Because there is no reward or no incentive for me to do more, to try harder, to reinvest, to create jobs for others.

Its BS.  Complete, total, utter, indescribable BS.

Answer 26

Because their political beliefs are like a religion. Facts don't get in the way.  

Answer 27

Obama is a Democrat. It won't be him raising taxes, it will be the party. You have to look at the philosophy of the party, not the man.With a democratically controlled congress and senate, you can bet he won't be vetoing bills sent to him by his peer group.

Answer 28

Except that it may be the case that if you tax the rich too much then you stifle job creation and poor people suffer anyways because unemployment goes up.  Taxing corporate profits cuts into R&D which keeps American businesses competitive on the world stage.

Answer 29

A poor man doesn't sign your paychecks, son.

If your boss gets taxed too much, you won't be getting much for a raise, or none at all in the next four years.

Lowering taxes makes the economy grow, not the other way around.

Answer 30

Because they don't do any research, and because, as you can see from some of the other answers, when presented with mathematical facts, they go "La, la, la, la, la, la - I can't hear you!"  There was one in the Boston Herald a couple of weeks ago that did an analysis and came up with the fact that taxes on the middle class would be identical under both mens' plans.  But they just listen to the lies the Republicans are telling them and buy into it hook, line, and sinker.

Answer 31

Because he will.