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Why do Palestinians ignore to Jewish connection to Eretz Israel?

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They call us a colonial enterprise, when they are the ones who conquered this land, and settled it with no calims, and than there as a mass imigration of Arabs, AFTER the first Aliyah.....

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  1. they ignore because they are brain washed in believing that.A common misperception is that all the Jews were forced into the Diaspora by the Romans after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem in the year 70 C.E. and then, 1,800 years later, suddenly returned to Palestine demanding their country back. In reality, the Jewish people have maintained ties to their historic homeland for more than 3,700 years.

    The Jewish people base their claim to the Land of Israel on at least four premises: 1) the Jewish people settled and developed the land; 2) the international community granted political sovereignty in Palestine to the Jewish people; 3) the territory was captured in defensive wars and 4) God promised the land to the patriarch Abraham.

    Even after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem and the beginning of the exile, Jewish life in the Land of Israel continued and often flourished. Large communities were reestablished in Jerusalem and Tiberias by the ninth century. In the 11th century, Jewish communities grew in Rafah, Gaza, Ashkelon, Jaffa and Caesarea.

    The Crusaders massacred many Jews during the 12th century, but the community rebounded in the next two centuries as large numbers of rabbis and Jewish pilgrims immigrated to Jerusalem and the Galilee. Prominent rabbis established communities in Safed, Jerusalem and elsewhere during the next 300 years. By the early 19th century — years before the birth of the modern Zionist movement — more than 10,000 Jews lived throughout what is today Israel.1 The 78 years of nation-building, beginning in 1870, culminated in the reestablishment of the Jewish State.

    Israel's international "birth certificate" was validated by the promise of the Bible; uninterrupted Jewish settlement from the time of Joshua onward; the Balfour Declaration of 1917; the League of Nations Mandate, which incorporated the Balfour Declaration; the United Nations partition resolution of 1947; Israel's admission to the UN in 1949; the recognition of Israel by most other states; and, most of all, the society created by Israel's people in decades of thriving, dynamic national existence.


  2. Ms. Miche's theory has so many holes in it I don't know where to begin to count them.    As an American of Native ancestry, I'd like to remind her that the great majority of North America was taken from us in the last (mere) 150 years;  I sure don't see anybody displacing white people to return huge tracts of land to US.

    Four-f*cking-THOUSAND years ago?    How about we reinstate the Roman Empire, too?    Maybe give control of Great Britain back to the Druids?   Give it up, chickie...Palestine was Palestine only sixty years ago, and it was stolen from Palestinians.

  3. Jews had been nomadic allover their history.That connection did not exist at anytime.  How can you deny something that does not exist?

  4. Shlomo,

    It stems from denial and misinformation!  Israel is a Jewish state and Jewish history is traced back 4000 years.  To admit to that fact would mean that "Palestinians" are admitting to this land as our right.

    Sincerely,

    Ms. Miche ; })

  5. Wishful thinking that makes for better propaganda.  Naivete. A natural human tendency to think the worst of their enemies when they are living under war-like conditions.  Ignorance of the true history, which is full of gray areas both sides would like to deny.  People deal better thinking in black and white sometimes.

    Why do Israelis sometimes say there is no Palestinian people, or that Jordan is the Palestinian state, etc.?  Or that all the Palestinians who left in 1948 left voluntarily?  The same, I think, wishful black and white thinking that makes for better propaganda.  Fortunately, most Israelis no longer make such claims.  Perhaps when there is peace, most Palestinians won't, either.

  6. You??? Or your ancestor 2000 years ago. There is a difference. Jews were in the country before Muslims but then many of them left it when the Romans kicked them out. Then after that the Palestinians went there. Started their life. Bought home. Got fields and took care of it. Had work there. Had there hole life there. And suddenly, your parents go to the country and say well our ancestors were here 2000 years ago so get out of here.  

    They stole the Palestinian homes. And made them refuges. We don't deny your right completely but we rebel against your occupation.

    It is true that a lot of Arabs migrated there after the First Aliya but what is not true is that those Arabs were not the majority. Most of the Palestinians already were there. Some of them were decesdants of Jews who converted to Islam, some are decendants of old romans, greeks, or even cananites. And many were Arabs who immigrated to the land more than a thousand year before. So the Palestinians too have strong connections to the land.

    So

    Why do Jews ignore the Palestinian  connection to "Israel"?

    The mass imigration of Jews to the land was AFTER 1948.....

    and just a note for Ms Miche

    you say the Jewish history started 4000 years i.e at the Age of Abraham, so can you tell me how were there Jews and Jewish history at that time when Judaism only came with Prophet Moses more than a thousand year later(Closer to 2000 later actually) and the first person who was called Israel (Not even Jewish) was Jacob?!

    and if it is true that God gave the land to the decesdants' of Abraham through Abraham, do you deny that Muslims and christians are also decendants of Abraham? So we all have the right to the land then..

    And I see you started to put the word Palestinian in quotations too, did you join the group of radicals and fact deniers?

    REMEMBER  Of the Israeli Jews 68% were Sabras (Israeli-born), mostly second- or third-generation Israelis, and the rest are olim (Jewish immigrants to Israel) — 22% from Europe and the Americas, and 10% from Asia and Africa, including the Arab countries.

    So REMEMBER NOT most Israelis are from Arab countries, Turkey, and Iran. Actually less than 10% of the total Jewish Israeli population are from Arabic countries.

    The reason is many of those still live in Arabic and Muslim countries. There are many Jews still live in Morocco, Yemen, and Iran. The Muslims didn't kick them out...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelis

  7. Why do Zionists ignore the Palestinian connection to Palestine?

    Zionists claim that the Ancient Jews who lived in the Holy Land 3000 years ago were their ancestors while they deny the contemporary Palestinian people the right to claim their antecessors the Ancient Palestinian People.

    Shlomo read your bible and tell us who was living in Palestine frist. The Palestinians exited before the Jews and after the Jews and when the Jews were nomads the Palestinians lived in big cities.

    Ms.Miche: ST Marry the Magdalen was from your city Ashkelon " Al Magdal" the real Palestinian name of the city.

    Palestinian Chai

  8. It is important to understand the perspective of Palestinians in the conflict in order to bring about peace for both sides and their views are as legitimate as Israel's.

  9. "Palestinians" are gullible, they have trouble with independent thinking and evidence, instead they rely on propaganda, pseudo-history and pseudo-science.

    One of the weirdest claims I've heard from them is that Judaism was created in Europe and Hebrew is half Arabic half English and the temple never existed.  Even though Jews are in the Qur'an and even says ants built the temple by Solomons command.

    So they can't even get there story straight to the point they commit shirk by denying the Qur'an.

  10. Then why did you leave if it was so fab?

    I don't give a flying **** who was there first, the palestinans have as much ties to the land.

    Israel has caused more harm than good.

  11. Many Arabs ignore the truth because (1) their stated goal is to take over the entire region

    and (2) they started to believe their own false propaganda. Lacking any legitimacy to rule over this tiny land and people that they wish to subjugate, the Arabs created a myth: the sudden existence of a heretofore-unheard-of people. (The definition of this alleged nation, and its parameters change frequently. On this page alone, one pretends that the "Palestinians" existed before the Jews, while another claims that they cropped up here during the Roman exile! ) The Arabs of the Middle East can not bear that the once subjugated Jews escaped dhimmitude to thrive as a sovereign nation in their midst. With ancient and modern history confirming the undeniable eternal Jewish connection with the Land of Israel, these Arabs invented a new mythological replacement: a Palestinian people. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTI...

    As recently as 31 years ago,  PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein admitted: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. . .  Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism."

    Examine the minor attempt to ignore history in an answer here regarding the origins of the city name, "Ashkelon". (This is but one example of the type of claim introduced  daily in attempts to obfuscate the truth.) Ashkelon was a major port city on the Mediterranean since ancient times. Some experts note the root "shekel" in the ancient name for this once major commercial city. Who would be brazen --or ignorant-- enough to deny history and imply that Ashkelon is a new name or place? Ashkelon existed since the Canaanite period and through the Bronze age. Many conquered the port city: the Philistines   [Anyone who read about Samson in the Bible knows the name "Ashkelon"]; the Egyptians, the Babylonians, the Persians with the Phoenicians, the Greeks, the Romans, the Arabs, and the Crusaders.  BTW, "al Majdal"  (related to the Hebrew name, "Migdal") was a 19th century Egyptian Arab settlement to the east of ancient Ashkelon .

    http://www.eretz.com/NEW/archaeology.sht...

  12. because they teach their children to ignore it?  It's tradition!

    Check this video out.  They are claiming Tel Aviv.  Maybe, just maybe, this man had a hut there, and sold it out or lost it some way or another, but gee, even the bunny is calling him senile and doesn't buy his story.

    Doesn't he see there is a skyscraper on that lot now? Tel Aviv was built with Jewish ambition and we know it and he should know it.  So why he telling this story to this bunny?  Tradition!  Tradition to steal instead of create their own skyscraper in Gaza.   3 years now and what have they built except fuzzy bunny stories?

    Enough is enough.  Tell the man to move to Jaffa or better yet just stay in Gaza where he's living now with the fuzzy bunny.

  13. Israel is a country made up of European, Russian and American Jews. they have no real blood connection to the ancient Jews of Kind David's time. The Palestinians, who are descends of the Canaanites are the rightful owners of Palestine and have, to this day, lived there since the beginning of time.

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