Why do creationists still think that evolution and cosmology are directed by random chance?

Question

Natural selection does produce "winning designs" but there is no personal designer.

The universe is only the result of some basic rules of logic resulting from nothingness, in which there is no neccesity for causation. This just happens to be one of the universes in the multiverse that is capable of sustaining life - it shouldn't be a suprise to intelligent life that they exist in a habitat capable of sustaining intelligent life.

So why do creationists still feel incredulity about science on the basis of random chance - that is the opposite of what science says about the universe.

Answer 1

No one(intelligent) denies natural selection. It's just genetically impossible for a species to turn into another species, no matter how gradual.

Answer 2

They don't believe that at all.. and actually, evolutionists believe on the basis of chance; that the earth just spontaneously evolved out of nothing at all. Creationists believe in a divine and holy spirit which created the heavens and the earth.

And Jesus Freak is right about natural selection.

You are very wrong about natural selection as the basis of evolution. Natural selection is not the same as animals transitioning from one speices to the next. That is just not the correct term. No transitional fossils have been found to this day. No one is denying that natural selection occurs, because it does, but if a finch develops into a finch able to concur all other finiches with it's long beak, the result is: ITS STILL A FINCH. That is natural selection my friend, not evolution.

Answer 3

ok, if evolution isn't directed by random chance then explain love for me.... as love 9 times out of 10 actually can harm the chances of your survival...

Answer 4

Out of ignorance of the subject -- which is frequently intentional.  In evolution, mutations are random, but natural selection is not; the consequences are profound.  Since evolution is now a proven fact, there is no viable excuse for anyone to not believe in it.

Answer 5

Creationists do not think evolution and cosmology are directed by random chance, but a personal God who not only set the cosmos in motion, created time and space, but had an original Plan A, and a Plan B as a result of man's choice of sin in His perfect Plan A.  

There are no accidents.  God cares for each and every one of us.

See www.drdino.com for some great food for thought about the cosmos.  

Answer 6

"This just happens to be one" has the unspoken implication of chance. If you do not want to see that fine, but that does not mean it is not there.

Answer 7

It is easier to defeat a straw man than to defeat actual arguments. They're easier to understand too.

Answer 8

That is your religious belief. I know because you weren't there. You're just parrotting what you've heard in your life.

Natural selection is a CONSERVATIVE process that only keeps the current population healthy; it does NOT create "new information".

And there aren't enough planets in the entire universe to cover the infinite odds against such a thing happening (which is why evolutionists postulate a "multiverse" to make up for it - they realize that within one universe, it's statistically impossible).

People can look at this computer and believe that it is intelligently designed, even if they have never met its creator. But then they look at the human body, which is millions of times more complex than a computer, and believe it came about by random chance, or by trial-and-error? That isn't even logical- and I thought atheists worshipped at the altar of logic.  

Answer 9

Creationists are not allowed to develop the ability to think.

Answer 10

I would point out that Creationists do not discount natural selection at all. It has been well observed and proven. Natural selection as the origin of all species, however, is rather flawed.

Having formerly believed in the multiverse theories myself, I might ask, what is the difference between faith in multiple universes and faith in a creator of the universe? Where might the multiverse have come from? Is it possible for matter in a linear construct to be eternal? An awful lot of laws would have to be violated if that were the case.  

Answer 11

Consider this

Mysteries In Science

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zTXxpXOo...

The Young Age of the Earth

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...

The Origin of Man by Dr. Duane Gish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3FZDysZK...

The Origins of Life

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...

Evolution: Challenge of the Fossil Record - Part 1 of 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NkO6fQvy...

Skull Fossils - As Empty as the Evolutionary Theory

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yu5jN897...

Neanderthals - Smarter Then We Thought

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxL636n3w...

Dinosaurs: Those Terrible Lizards

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVvGByvp1...

Atheist's NightMare: Evolution

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udqoCGPnV...

Our Solar System: Evidence For Creation

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...

Answer 12

Did you know that Evolution is a thoery and not a scientific fact? Did you know that in reality evolution doesn't even qualify to be a theory? That's because scientific theories have to be Obsereved, Tested and Resuslts Repeated. Evolution has never been obsereved, nor can it be tested, therefor it cannot be a scientific theory and definetly not a scientific fact. Scientists have never been able to create life from non-living matter.

Now gives me thumbs down, but that is what a Scientific Theory is.

Did you know Darwin did  not base his theory on any experiment? He only relied upon conjecture and hypothesis. "The Descent of Man", written by Darwin shows he admitted the weaknesses and inconsistencies in his theory and frequently reiterated his doubts concerning the truth of these hypotheses in question. Darwin was much less sure himself than he is often represented to be; the chapter entitled “Difficulties of the Theory,” for example, shows considerable self-doubt.

Yet even though the founder of this theory had strong doubts about its accuracy and his own level of scientific knowledge, and admitted as much in the very plainest language, today’s evolutionists still remain utterly convinced by his theory.

Confessions regarding his state of mind in making these claims. Darwin was concerned that his theory was actually contradictory, inconsistent and unrealistic:

Charles Darwin quotes:

"Pray do not think that I am so blind as not to see that there are numerous immense difficulties in my notions." - Francis Darwin, The Life and Letters of Charles Darwin, Vol. I, New York: D. Appleton and Company, 1888, p. 315

"I am quite conscious that my speculations run quite beyond the bounds of true science." -N.C. Gillespie, Charles Darwin and the Problem of Creation, University of Chicago, 1979, p. 2.

"I sometimes suspect I shall soon entirely fail."- Francis Darwin, The Life and Letters of Charles Darwin, Vol. II, p. 152.

"You ask about my book, and all that I can say is that I am ready to commit suicide; I thought it was decently written, but find so much wants rewriting. . . ." -Ibid., p. 501

". . . but so much has been published since the appearance of the ‘Origin of Species,’ that I very much doubt whether I retain power of mind and strength to reduce the mass into a digested whole." -Ibid., p. 388

As Darwin grew older, his views on religion changed. In his youth he accepted the idea of special creation without reservation. In the book Life and Letters, however, he said that mankind would be a far more perfect entity in the distant future. He then went on to add the following ideas:

"Another source of conviction in the existence of God, connected with the reason, and not with the feelings, impresses me as having much more weight. This follows from the extreme difficulty or rather, impossibility of conceiving this immense and wonderful universe including man with his capacity of looking far backwards and far into futurity, as the result of blind chance or necessity. When thus reflecting, I feel ompelled to look to a First Cause having an intelligent mind in some degree analogous to that of man; and I deserve to be called Theist. This conclusion was strong in my mind about the time, as far as I can remember, when I wrote the Origin of pecies; and it is since that time that it has very gradually, with many fluctuations,become weaker. But then arises the doubt: Can the mind of man, which has, as I fully believe, been developed from a mind as low as that possessed by the lowest animals, be trusted when it draws such grand conclusions?"   -Robert B. Downs, Books that Changed the World, Revised edition (March 2, 2004), New York: Signet Classics; p. 286.

At this point, Darwin raises his hands in despair and concludes by saying:

"I cannot pretend to throw the least light on such abstruse problems. The mystery of the beginning of all thing is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic."   - Ibid

Evolution Hoaxes!:

http://fellowshipinhislove.com/index36.h...

http://www.rlhymersjr.com/Online_Sermons...

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblo...

http://www.cstnews.com/Code/FaithEvl.htm...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUag8oQ-b...

NEBRASKA MAN HOAX:

http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/evolutiona...

Nebraska man was made up from a single tooth!

How is that for exact science?

EDIT: It is not suprising that I get thumbs down, because if an evolutionist sees or hears anything about God or creation or that evolution is false, they just completely shut their brain off. They don't want to hear it. They just say in their head "evoultion is true! evoultion is true! evoultion is true! evoultion is true!" And that shows the persons ignorance.

Which also shows the fact that you hate anything that has to with God, which unfortunatly is everything.

God is the Creator of this world. We are intelligently made and I don't believe for a second that I come from an ape. Now you might say that I'm ignorant, but I disagree, because I have tangled around with the thoery of evolution, so I know what it's about, and my grade in that subject was a B+ and I don't completely shut my brain off when someone is explaining the theory to me. So I am not stupid or ignorant.

Answer 13

Don't even bother with creationists.  

Answer 14

'basic rules of logic resulting from nothingness'.... yeah that makes sense. check your facts friend, cosmology and darwinism pedal the notion that time plus chance equals spontaneous generation. which is a farce considering there isn't one legitimate transitional form in the fossil record. you keep having to say the universe and life forms are becoming more complex when actually we are all dying, the universe along with us. our ancestors were much smarter than us today, don't mistake the ball rolling down the hill that is technology with the intellect of man. we did not come from beasts, we are becoming beasts.