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Why do environmentalists refuse to learn about the warming of the solar system?

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Please don't bother with lengthy extrapolations about the Earth's warming. It's obvious and it will affect us greatly! The fact that Saturn, Jupiter and it's moons, and mars are also warming is very telling. Also The Sun is researchable. The mainstream environmentalists,(and that means many of you) refuse to take these facts into consideration. I love music too, but allowing our lives to be affected by the power brokers, in futility, makes no sense.Trying to stop, or slow the Sun's effects on the Earth is ludicrous. Why don't people learn about it? I know why poloticians won't acknowledge this. But why won't you.

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  1. Because it would go against their argument "proving" man-made global warming.  Because they're already set in their ways and have passed the point of no return.  There's still a lot of people out there who don't acknowledge the fact that 700 years ago there was a warm period for a few hundred years that people were growing crops in Greenland.


  2. You should really follow your own advice.  Climate scientists already have.

    For starters, only a couple of bodies in the solar system (planets + moons) are warming.  A few more are cooling.  The vast majority are experiencing no significant temperature change.

    If our warming were due to increased output by the Sun, then almost all of the planetary bodies in the solar system should be warming.  That's simply not the case.

    Of course, we don't need to look at other planets to determine what the Sun is doing.  We have satellites that directly measure the Sun's output.

    Over the past 30 years, all solar effects on the global climate have been in the direction of (slight) cooling, not warming.  This is during a very rapid period of global warming.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/62902...

    http://www.pubs.royalsoc.ac.uk/media/pro...

    A recent study concluded:

    “the range of  [Northern Hemisphere]-temperature reconstructions and natural forcing histories…constrain the natural contribution to 20th century warming to be <0.2°C [less than one-third of the total warming].  Anthropogenic forcing must account for the difference between a small natural temperature signal and the observed warming in the late 20th century.”

    http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/104...

    You can see this in the third graph here, where the dotted lines are just from natural causes, and the full lines are natural + human causes:

    http://www.pnas.org/content/vol104/issue...

    If that’s not enough to convince you the Sun isn’t responsible, consider the fact that no scientific study has ever attributed more than one-third of the warming over the past 30 years to the Sun, and most attribute just 0-10% to the Sun.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

    You really shouldn't talk about other people refusing to do a little scientific research when you haven't done any yourself.

  3. The solar system is not warming. Get your facts straight.

    A spokesman for the Royal Society, Britain's leading scientific academy, said: "At present there is a small minority which is seeking to deliberately confuse the public on the causes of climate change.

    "They are often misrepresenting the science, when the reality is that the evidence is getting stronger every day.

    "We have reached a point where a failure to take action to reduce carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions would be irresponsible and dangerous."

  4. you make me laugh

  5. that's entirely not true.. we did a bit on it when i was in college and i know a lot of programs are starting to incorporate it... how ever and i think it's kinda dumb but it's still considered to be out side our field... even tho our environment extends beyond our planet...

    i do know a lot of students were studying it quite extensively on their own time.

    i would expect in the next few years the popularity in that study to rise and extend to to the field.

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