Why do liberals and the ACLU hate proven punishment techniques for students?

Question

This is what gets me. In the attached article for instance, it points out that liberals consider corporal punishment in schools as outdated, barbaric, and only for the "unenlightened" LOL!

So explain this to me. Why is it that my generation, and those before mine, when our hinies could be introduced to the business end of a paddle or strap for infractions as small as chewing gum in class or saying the word butt (something that actually happened to me), we had much lower cases of violence and crime as well as much more respect for adults and other authority figures?

In this article it points out that "minorities" get paddlings more often than others. What that tells me is that for some reason, apparently, minority kids are more apt to act in ways that are unacceptable. That is true because I see it EVERY FREAKIN DAY. It isn't because they are being singled out either. So don't even try that with me because that is total horse c**p.

Now we have some states where corporal punishment is outlawed, most of which of course are liberal states, and the result has been a HUGE increase in violence and crime, especially among adolescents.

What corporal punishment taught me was that okay, if I do "that" again, I'll get my butt popped, or worse. So don't do "that" anymore.

Sometimes a good sharp whack on the f***y is the only thing that gets a kids attention.

So libs, once again, why is it you seem to always go against proven methods of ANYTHING?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080820/us_nm/usa_schools_punishment_dc

Answer 1

I believe in corporal punishment but I think the problem with the younger generation is the parenting they had to endure.  There are far too many parents who are concerned about being their child's friend rather than their parent.  Note to parents:  stop spoiling your kids, they aren't supposed to like you until they get older and develop some sense!

Answer 2

The schools should not be the ones tearing into the kids rear, that is the parents job.

If the parents are not doing their job, that is an entirely different issue and creates the problems at the schools.

Answer 3

Spanking simply isn't necessary. I live in and work for the School district that educated me. There hasn't been a student spanked there in probably thirty-five years.

Guess what are crime rate is? Guess what are expulsion rate is?

We are one of our state's consistently "Excellent" Schools (17 out of around 600.)

And we're not spanking. So why would we need to?

I'm just saying...

Answer 4

I am conservative and I am against corporal punishment. It is barbaric and it has nothing to do with school system and everything to do with what they show in the media. No stanger has a right to lay a hand on a child. Immagine if a boss at work was to beat up his employees for doing something wrong. He can't do it, so why should kids have less rights.

Answer 5

The far left wants everything and anything to be acceptable. There is a difference in discipline and child abuse. The whole far left needs parenting classes. What we have today are children who don't believe there are any consequences for their actions. Then everyone cries when that child ends up in drug rehab or prison. The far left is against conservative Christians, because they don't go along with every unGodly idea the far left has. Parenting style have changed and a lot of parents have forgotten their responsibilities.

Answer 6

I'm a conservative as well, and although I don't mind corporal punishment in cases required at home. "slapping the butt of a child" that is about to run across a busy street or put their hand on the stove or disrespecting a parent at a very early age. If notice is given by the parent that these things are not acceptable the child soon learns that when a parent or a person of authority says no they mean no and should be listened to. When it goes out side the home, no other person has a right to put there hand on a my child or yours. The reasons there were more respect in most schools back then, is not because of what the teacher would do, it was because of what your parent would do when you got home.

Thank you Scott, I don't know if I'm right or wrong, but I sure know that I wouldn't do wrong because I didn't want to upset, embarrass, make culpable my parents and relatives. I believe most of the disciplinarian problems in schools are because the liberal society we are growing up in today allows selfish behaviors because it's to afraid to bruise self esteem. What most people don't understand is that most violent criminals have huge self esteem.

Answer 7

Because they are unequally and unfairly applied

Answer 8

i do not recall many kids that i went to school with being too far out of line. reasoning and common sense have gone out the window for alot of todays young teens. some have no fear because the worst thing the school can do is place them on suspension (another crappy idea). I have had students beg me to send them to I.H.P. (in house probation) because they don't want to go to regular classes. While its true that the discipline system in most schools needs to be revamped, our society needs to put some real teeth into discipline and even motivating best effort from our students. Even when it was legal in my state, tanning a kids hide was the very last ditch effort to literally knock some sense into the kid.

btw; any motivating incentive i can think of-would meet with problems with aclu etc.