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Why do most women think they have to be the submissive individuals relationship?

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Is it cultural or is it that society always make it what it seem. I mean we women came along way in this society or should I stay societies. Its happen it all race, culture and society.

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  1. I agree w/ what the 1st poster said. It's definitely not cultural, my family is pretty old-fashioned & I've been brought up that way, needless to say I am submissive to only my *future* husband & my Father in Heaven, other than that, no one else.


  2. i think it's pretty safe to say that in most of America, the woman is far from submissive....

  3. Thats the way nature intended it.  I mean truly.  I was very dominant until I met my husband a real man.  I could submit to him and it wasn't a bad thing.  I felt like the first time I could truly be a woman, feminine 100 percent.  Many may disagree and a time or two I am quite fiesty but all in all, I think that is how its suppose to be, the man dominate and the woman submissive to HER HUSBAND.  I believe what the Bible says about this.  Submitting is not a bad thing if it is to the right man.  Who loves you like he loves himself.

  4. Id rather think of my partner as equal in the relationship but most times revertes back to being submissive which is frustating

  5. Men are typically shown as the breadwinners and usually have the upper hand at most of the tough things and the bigger obstacles in life such as working, financial stability, etc.  As they have stood in this spotlight and are constantly judged by it today, men tend to also be seen dominant in the relationship in which he may be in, as he has shown dominance in all of the other basic aspects of life.  

    In other cultures, men may have always been the dominant part in a relationship and that may be just the way things were instantaneously decided.  There is really no telling.  I guess they don't call them "Alpha Males" for nothing.

    Women are delicate creatures in men's eyes (I mean a real man, not a woman-beater...that's not a man, that's an animal) and have kind of been viewed unanimously as the submissive one.  Women are getting stronger and stronger everyday.  If you ask me, anything that can grow another human inside of them, put up with all that comes with it, and then push a baby OUT, SHOULD BE THE DOMINANT ONE.  I DON'T SEE MEN VOLUNTEERING FOR THIS!

  6. In most aspects of my relationships, I prefer to be equal.  If I choose to serve my man and care for him, how can that be wrong in the feminist viewpoint?  Isn't the whole point of feminism choice?

  7. i am definately the submissive in our relationship, and She knows it.

  8. baby thats what needs to be changed- think equality always

  9. I didn't know they did think that.  If a woman is submissive in a relationship, then I would assume that in this day and age it is because she wants to be.

  10. They don't know how to function otherwise. - Isn't that right?

  11. Answer this who invented marriage men or women? Answer that and you have your answer.

  12. "Most" women?  Most women where?  Got any evidence?  70%  of divorces are initiated by women.

  13. Well for one thing, it was tradition for years that mean be the dominant ones, the leaders, in some regards. Biblical references also bring this fact to bear in our society.

    Let's consider the anthropological possibilities...

    Women, from what I've seen in most studies over the years, were the social side of the early human and pre-human communities (if you believe in that). The females gave birth and cared for young children. They gathered needed supplies and coordinated their efforts in the community territory. The females most likely developed social skills to allow them to function together as each of them had various tasks that they needed to perform, and had to coordinate amongst themselves. Because they were usually not the hunters, they tended to live longer if they survived childbirth, and thus had a capacity to pass down knowledge.

    Males, on the other hand, were the hunters and defenders of the communities. they had to be tough, strong and unified in thought and action. A dominant male had to be able to force others to submit to him in the community for the good of the hunting or war party.Those males who managed to survive long enough to die of old age were tough, shrewd beings who had worked their entire lives to keep others in line.

    The interactions of these ancient beings have been theorized and discussed for years. Chances are that the males were the dominant ones because the functional structures they relied on to fulfill their roles requires dominance. Most likely, These males lead with broad, basic directions, demanding others follow his will.

    Any alpha females, having accumulated and shared knowledge, would use her social skills to appease the dominant male and ensure that all were able to do what was needed when needed. If necessary, she could confront the alpha male and would be able to use her social skills to work around his ideas to keep the entire community functioning.

    And so this was passed down through various societies and cultures, until we get to the contemporary human person.

    I would be so bold as to say these behaviors still color our outlook on life today, and have been pushed to extremes by the various complicated political, sociological and moral thought that exists. Men sometimes feel the need to really push the dominance factor. It's in our blood and in a society where we aren't going out, killing things and bringing them back for food, we often have no outlet. Sports, business and other activities often allow us to live out other aspects of our development for hunting, domineering, organizing and executing plans with efficiency, but the social aspect of dominance isn't as prevalent in our lives.

    Likewise, women have continued with their social networking and coordinating. Whereas 5,000 years ago the male aspects of society were much more in place (hunting, fighting, killing, dying), in our society today, the social aspects women have had engrained within them for centuries is the most applicable in society. However, built into women we may still see the attitude that the alpha male gets to be in charge over most things.

    To add to the confusion, since men have less and less things to hunt and kill in our contemporary society, we have awkwardly attempted to adopt the social ideas of women. As most people are aware, we usually either fail amazingly at this, or figure out a way to harmonize this with our instincts to dominate and command.

    Women, likewise, have had to take on unfamiliar roles. In a society using the social rules women made, but warped to allow the naturally dominant man to take control of them, women are trying to fit into their old roles, but finding that they need to use the aggression of men, or to manipulate these men in some manner, if they want to hold any points of authority.

    In the home, the old roles are much easier to slip into then to try and maintain the exhausting effort of adopting behaviors that we typically aren't made for. However, the desire to cling to these can often warp the individuals. Men are more than dominant, they're aggressive, or just the opposite, impotent. women are more than social and responsive to the male dominance, they're totally submissive or hatefully manipulative.

    The goals of society need to be to (a) recognize and accept our natural behavioral models, to (b) recognize and accept that we are capable of employing the other gender's models to a lesser degree, but in a manner which balances us. We need to be aware of either overdoing it or not doing it enough, and we need to be respectful of the differences between the genders and embrace them, rather than resist them or try to change them. Women will never be as dominating or aggressive as men, and men will never be as sociable or willing to share knowledge as women. But women should have SOME right to employ aggression when needed, and men should develop SOME freedoms to share knowledge and work socially without dominating everyone else.

    We have the templates to do this, through our religions and our philosophies. The problem is getting everyone on the same page.

  14. I look at it this way I'm not submissive; when it comes to that scenario the man says the kettle is black; do you know what that stands for?  It stands for your opinion; when a woman agrees the kettle is black she has no opinion; submissive women according to my book are like this; they'll go out of their ways to please and appease men. I'm stepping on toes.  So, since I'm stepping on toes; I'm obedient - meaning I do just exactly as I am told. However, when it comes to that kettle there are times we have to agree to disagree.  For those who don't like what I have to say stick it up where the sun never shines <glares>.

    Edit: No I don't have to be this way - I am this way; some refer to me as being a freak.  <shrugs>

  15. It's funny.

    Some women are so scared of coming across as submissive that they go out of their way to be domineering.

    ...Then they blame the guy for not wanting a "strong woman" when the guy just wanted a girl that wasn't unyielding and wasn't always trying to prove something.

    Some women need to chill out & realize that the overwhelming majority of men don't want "submission."

    ...we just want a girl that isn't always at our jugular with her claws out.

    You don't have to be disrespectful and spiteful to men to prove just how "strong" you are.

    Just relax & men will do the same.

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