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Why do ordinary people in Baghdad say that the situation there is worse than ever and they feel unsafe.?

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I have been reading as many blogs as I can from Iraqi people in Baghdad and they all seem to say that the security situation there is worse than it ever was and that where as distinctions between sunni and shia muslims used to be virtually irrelevant, now they are a matter of life and death.

Also they claim to be more frightened than ever before, but not of insurgents. They are afraid of the American trained Iraqi army and the American soldiers themselves. Ordinary people like you or I can be taken away and brutaly interogated on the slightest suspicion.

How can this be so when it is claimed by Bush and his cronies that we have done a great job. Why is this side of things never reported.

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  1. I know it's hard to decide what's really going on over there without being there ourselves, but not all of these blogs are accurate.  For example, there was a big distinction between Sunni's and Shiite's before the war.  It's just that Saddam kept the Shiite's suppressed.  Now that the Shiite's don't have to worry about him (and they are the majority in most of Iraq), the obviously want to get the power in Iraq, and revenge against the Sunni as well.  Thus, civil war.  But I just read an article saying the recent troop surge worked, but not simply because of what our military did.  Many areas that had been under Al-Quida control had a taste of what life would be like under them.  It was brutal.  People couldn't have anything Muhammad didn't have.  So no ice, for example.  There were other simple everyday things people couldn't have if Muhammad didn't have it in his time.  People living in constant fear of death.  This report, from the Boston Herald, I believe, maybe it was AP, but it claimed that many Iraqis hated this rule and helped the Americans during the troop surge.  

    It's a mess, I know, but don't believe every thing, especially posts that make everything out to be just great, or an end of the world horror.  The truth is usually in between.  

    Finally, read "Th Kite Runner" for an idea of what Sunni/Shiite relations can be like, and what the Taliban/Al Quida can be like.

    And I'm sure that the tens of thousands of people killed and the many more living under Saddam's oppression would not call those years the good old days.  Do you know how many women claim to have been raped by Saddam and his sons?  How many athletes have been tortured or murdered for losing at an international event?  The Kurds being attacked with chemical weapons, killing villages of innocent people?  Good old days?


  2. Do you believe what Bush claims ?

    So you must be US-American.

  3. Bloggers are not "Ordinary" people, and, are not Iraqis, simply because they say so.

    If making the statement is all it takes, WHERE IS THAT $50,000.00 YOU OWE ME???

    I don't see 50 g's.  

    Why do you believe them and don't believe me?

  4. Sure.

    Why not?

    What do we expect from them?

    After being "Reincarnated" as the dead Mummy of failures and horrors of the past with empty skeleton of skull and bones with two empty eye sockets?

    With an empty skull that could not even think with total loss of IQ nor see with two empty eye sockets.

    Without being aware of their own creation in own backyards.

    With self lack of knowledge.

    In kicking the butts of God in not worshiping God.

    How they all live in misery like cave-men from the twilight zone in the 21st century.

    Without veing aware of it being expose in time after the mystery of us-911.

    Luke 8.5-8,10-17

    Getting themselves all kick on the butts as casualty of the dead Mummy in climbing up the coconut trees and still look green with lost sense of direction and purpose of life without being aware of it.

    Luke 6.39-40,41-45,46-49

    What do you think?

  5. Links? Not for any particular reason, but I would like to read some blogs of regular citizens in Iraq. Thanks.

  6. It takes time to get security in individual neighborhoods.

    We are training Iraqis to take over security but they are not all up to speed yet.

    If they aren't associating with insurgents and follow the rules, they have a less likelihood of being brutally interrogated.

    Why don't you go over there and try it yourself, and then you can criticize the efforts of people who have already tried to better the situation.

  7. Bla bla bla. More boring Bush bashing. Like the blogs are good sources of the truth.

  8. The most poignant way I've ever heard it described came from an Iraqi who lived through the invasion, the onslaught and the chaos.

    I don't think I will ever forget these words...

    "When we were ruled by Saddam, there was no light at the end of the tunnel. But when the Americans came, they destroyed even the tunnel."

    I remains to be seen which forces are preventing the rebuilding of the "tunnel", but I don't believe Iraqi consensus thinks our presence helps them live better lives.

    The best way to describe the role America plays right now is attempting to rebuild all that we had a hand in messing up.

  9. Bush is a war criminal dont you know

  10. The war is won-it's a hard concept for libs to grasp.

  11. Saddam=stability

    Democracy/US puppet govt=instability

    Simple as that. That's why I saw a newspaper article saying that ordinary Iraqi people call the sanction days of Saddam the good old days.

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