Why do people still think global warming is not our problem?

Question

Their is undeniable evedence that global warming is taking place! It is true the earth does have natural climate changes. But the truth is the planet has NEVER gone through a natural warming phase with man made greenhouse gases in our atmosphere. Its simple scientific fact that these gases alone raise the temperature. So combine that with the natural increase in temperature and it should be obvious we are aproching a potential global disaster. Just because the fire is naturaly hot doesnt mean throwing gas on it wont change anything!

Answer 1

The theory of man-made global warming is false.  Rather than just giving evidence proving that global warming is based on misrepresented evidence I will directly address the points made by global warming scientists.  If you do not plan on reading my post (I know it is long) I would ask you to watch this video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...  this video makes many of the points I will be making.  Now I will list the points that global warming scientists make: 1. CO2 causes an increase in global temperature. 2.  The IPCC has produced a report on the issue.  3. Computer models predict what we are saying.  4. There is a scientific consensus on the issue/all major scientists agree on man-made global warming/the only people who disagree are paid by the oil companies.  5. Major Politicians, CEO’s, scientists, etc agree.  6.  Even if there is a chance that global warming is real we should do everything we can, it can’t hurt.

1.  This is the main point made by global warming scientists. Data does in fact show that temperature and CO2 are correlated, however the nature of the correlation has been overlooked.  Global warming scientists say that an increase of CO2 causes global temperatures to rise, but this is not the case; a rise in global temperatures causes a rise in CO2.  Using the same graph featured in “An Inconvenient Truth”, (the graph where Al Gore goes up on the cherry picker, the data from the ice core), the graph clearly shows a lag in CO2 as compared to global temperature.  Temperature starts to go up 800 years before CO2 begins to rise.  This happens because of the oceans.  CO2 released by natural or man-made sources is mostly absorbed into the ocean, when the global temperature raises it gradually increases the ocean temperature which releases CO2 and other gasses into the atmosphere.  Also most of the warming occurred before 1940 when industrialization was not as great.  One would believe that if global warming is tied to CO2 it would accelerate in the post WWII period, but it didn’t.  The globe actually cooled for 4 decades after WWII, when industrialization was the greatest.  Now take a look at our atmosphere as it relates to greenhouse gasses.  CO2 makes up .03% of our atmosphere, a very small amount of our atmosphere.  Other greenhouse gasses like water vapor make up 1-4% of the atmosphere.  Now take a look at where CO2 comes from, all human activity combined produces 6.5Gt of CO2 per year.  Volcanoes alone match that number.  All animals combined (meaning respiration, decomposition, etc) produce 150Gt of CO2.  So humans produce a very small amount of CO2 which itself makes up a very small amount of our atmosphere.  Water vapor is acknowledged to be the major greenhouse gas, and all of that is produced via evaporation (i.e. naturally).  

I know some of you may be thinking “ha, he acknowledges the greenhouse effect.”  To you I ask you to read a science textbook, the greenhouse effect is real and plays a very important role in maintaining a livable temperature on the earth.  Global warming scientists cite the greenhouse effect via our emission CO2 as the source of global warming.  They are disproved by their own words.  As I said before the greenhouse effect is real and causes heat to become trapped in the troposphere which warms the earth.  So if human emission of CO2 is to be blamed we would expect the troposphere to be warming and thus increasing the surface temperature (the temperature cited on global warming graphs) of the earth but look for yourself: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/temperature... the troposphere is actually cooling, only the surface temperature is rising.  This warming is not due to the greenhouse effect it is due to the sun.

It makes sense, the sun is the ultimate source of all of our energy.  Studies have shown that the effect of sunspots much more closely correlates to the rise in temperatures. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sunsp... http://www.livescience.com/environment/0...

http://web.dmi.dk/solar-terrestrial/spac...

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/...

The other planets in our solar system are also warming. http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/ma...

http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?art...

All this data points to the sun as the source for our current warming, and what about those ice core studies?  http://www.lavoisier.com.au/papers/artic...

Here are the results of the ice core studies they show a very cyclic effect in regard to global temperatures.  The global warming crowd also argues that weather disturbances will become more likely but the actual numbers show no increase.  Oh and the glaciers, they have retreated and advanced every year since the earth began, they melt in the summer and build up in the winter.

2.  The IPCC, http://www.ipcc.ch/, is the main source of data for those in support of global warming, and has been very controversial.  In a prior report a graph, the so called “hockey stick” graph, was shown to be forged.  A reprint of the report had to be issued but the damage was done.  The fake graph was the main point made in the report, all data rested on its accuracy.  When an independent review took place the data used to make the graph was shown to be made up, that’s a fact even the IPCC admitted the fraud.  Now allegations have been made that the IPCC has censored the report and refused to take scientists names off the contributors list.  Contributing scientists have alleged that their passages, which were critical of man-made global warming, were taken out of the report.  15 passages in all are alleged to have been cut from the report.  Scientists have also said that their names are on the contributors list even though they left the committee after finding their objections to global warming were ignored.  These scientists left the committee but the IPCC refused to take their names off the contributors list so that they can claim all major scientists agree with them.  The IPCC is a heavily partisan committee that went into session fully knowing that their report would be in favor of global warming, any scientist who disagreed was censored.

3.  Computer models are predictions; they are based on hundreds of assumptions.  If even one assumption is wrong the whole model is incorrect.  Every computer model is based off the assumption that man is the main cause of global warming, which if you’ve read the above paragraphs, should be questioned.  Another disparity occurs in the amount of CO2 released, most models have two times the amount of CO2 being released than is actually seen.  You may wonder why these programmers are being so bold with their outrageous assumptions; the fact is these models predict the climate 50 to 100 years from now.  These programmers will be retired or dead before their models can be proven accurate or inaccurate.

4. This is the most blatant lie made by the global warming crowd; there is no scientific consensus on this issue.  Here are the names of over 17,000 scientists who disagree.  http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p36.htm  This lie of scientific consensus is purely propaganda meant to make you believe without evidence.  Consider for a second, what does scientific consensus mean?  This may sound silly but imagine that all the scientific community got together and decided that humans can fly unassisted, does this mean it’s true, no.  Science is not politics, issues are not voted on, and truth is not based on which outcome is most accepted, if it was we would be the center of the universe not to mention the earth would be flat.  Those were the scientific consensus of the time, but experimentation has proved them to be wrong.

5.  A recent poll has shown that only 8% of the population believes that global warming is not man-made.  Everyone else believes global warming is man-made and this will affect the world either in this generation or sometime soon.  This accounts for the support of politicians and CEO’s.  Politicians see their constituents believe global warming and the politician jumps on the global warming band-wagon to get votes.  CEO’s and presidents of corporations also see the poll data and try and get customers by pledging their support.  Price differences between stores are often not that great, so leaders of these corporations want to gain customers based on “morals.”  Scientists love the global warming hype; more and more funding is being poured into various institutions for scientists to use.  Scientists find applying for grants easier with this increase in money.  Scientists can get media face time and get studies published before moving on to their real interests.  You may wonder why so many ordinary people believe in global warming even though all the evidence disagrees.  The fact is global warming dissenters are ignored.  The media airs only stories in support of global warming; many people don’t even know that there is a legitimate opposition to global warming.  And the claim that the only people who disagree with global warming are paid by oil companies is unfounded, its mudslinging.  That claim is just as founded as the claim that all those in support of global warming are paid by the major environmental conservation companies.  

The global cooling scare can show where this is current scare will take us.  If you don’t remember this scare I’ll explain.  In 1974 scientists were convinced that the globe was cooling so fast that we would soon enter a new ice age.  The media portrayed it as fact, committees were put together and came out with the global cooling conclusion, a scientific consensus was called.  Ordinary people were scared that the world would end and what happened?  We now have global warming a 180 from the ice age we were supposed to enter.  Global warming is the exact same scare as global cooling.  You’d think that people would have acknowledged global climate cycles by now.  

6.  This claim has been made more popular recently; it’s called the preventative principle.  This may seem to be the end all global warming argument.  However this statement just conveys ignorance.  You, in your rich country in your house or apartment and on your computer, will not be affected by the precautionary principle.  These changes to alternate energy would apply worldwide, and it is a fact that these energy options are currently much more expensive than coal and oil.  Take Africa for example, a continent made up of mainly third world countries.  How do you expect the poorest people in the world to ignore their coal and gas resources in favor of very expensive alternate energies?  They can not afford it but the UN via the IPCC expects them to switch over.  Also the US alone spends over 4 billion dollars on global warming research, that money could be much better used to promote any number of charity programs.  

If you read my post or watched the video you should at least have been prompted to take a fresh look at global warming as an unproven theory.  It is no lie I do not believe in man-made global warming, my purpose in writing this is not to completely convince you global warming is false.  I wrote this to wake people up from blindly following the global warming crowd.  I urge you to look at global warming and take in consideration arguments made by scientists who oppose global warming.  Your time, vote, money, and liberties are being taken in the name of global warming.  

Start with these links:

http://www.co2science.org/scripts/CO2Sci...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warm...

http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA235.htm...

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/

Answer 2

Ah.  A true Kool-aid drinker.  Go ahead.  Drink up.  Everyone else is.  It MUST be OK.

Answer 3

If you are really worried about 'Global Warming' then make your politicians shut down your filthy coal fired generating plants.

Tell them to build clean Nuclear energy plants instead!

Hopefully, Solar will catch on and people will be using it..but thats gona take along time.

My 6Kw Solar system cost me over $65,000.00!

Answer 4

it is the problem though. people know it's there but they don't want to do anything about it. they are making up excuses just so they don't have to change. it is true that we let off relatively little carbon dioxide but nature isn't used to having the extra carbon dioxide and less trees with all the deforestation to clear that extra up.

don't listen to anonymous he doesn't know what he is talking about. he has read one article written by a skeptic in denial and has completely believed it.

bravozulu is wrong too. a degree change has an extreme change in the ecosystem. a single degree could mean hundreds of tons of ice falling off ice shelves in our poles. it is our job to make sure the mistakes of the last generation are fixed.

Answer 5

Unfortunatly, it is not a scientific fact that man made green house gases alone raise the temperature.  The actual facts are:

1) Current global temperatures are well below previous global maximums, all of which occured with no man made green house gases.

2) There have been several past short term warming trends that have exceeded the rate of warming seen in the past 50 years, again with no man made green house gases.

IMHO given this, global warming is not so much a problem that must be solved as a natural event that must be adapted to.

Answer 6

the bottom line is the bottom line. who ever has the biggest budget to argue thier case is going to win the argument right now. the reason why so many people do not care is beacause the major corporations and industrys have managed to paint the people as being enviromentaly concerned as being nuts.

i believe in balance and i think that there is a lot of things wich need to be done. i do not think tho for one second that other countries are going to follow suit. its  a real pr job the chinese have done on stuff making it sound like they are leading the way but i can assure you they are not and soon as they become even more industrialised and begin to produce even more they will blow aways the us and europe combined for being the number one polluters.

its a bad situation for sure and well we are told that scientists should be listened to. however in the case of global warming we are taught to ignore them

Answer 7

I am denying your undeniable truth.  In fact it is a political issue.  The amount of human caused warming is thought to be less than a degree.  If you want to waste all your energy worrying yourself silly over a degree change then I suggest you keep it to yourself and stop running around like Chicken Little.  It has been much warmer than this during this interglacial period and the world is not going to end because of it.  Every generation since Christ has had those totally convince that the end of the world is at hand. I think it has to do with the arrogance of people that they think their time on Earth is so important.

Answer 8

Maybe because even the worst case scenario won't effect the United States all that much.

Rich people will lose their beach homes - that's about it.

We don't care about all the horrible things happening in Africa right now !

Why do you think we will care next year ?

Answer 9

I chuckle after reading this. Why? Simply because global warming is not a problem. It was conjured out of thin air by inexperienced scientists.  And now because they have all you ignorant people out there believing in it, there is money to be made by whomever.  This is governement and politics pulling a fast one on us all - remember "politically correct" scientists once thought the world was flat to, and just 40 years ago they thought "global cooling" was a problem.  Now why are you wrong: First, Co2 is not a man made gas, there are plenty of natural substances that create emissions of carbon dioxide, including volcanoes! Secondly, If the population has been consistantly increasing, as well as the amount of emissions dating back to the industrial revolution, then why hasn't the temperature been consistantly increasing? As I mentioned earlier, through the 1940's to the 1960's our earth suffered some of the coldest temperatures it had seen in quite some time. Thirdly, have you ever heard of "space weather"? Radiation outside of our earths atmosphere directly effects our planet.  Go look at a graph of the earths average temperature and compare it to the a graph oh the radiation in space of the last 200 years or so.  You will notice that are very, very similar.  Lastly, global warming can actually be a good thing.  For example, lets look to the Northern hemisphere, for two examples exhist.  Yes polar bears are dieing, but that is part of life and how mother nature works, eventually Greenland's, Russia's, and Canada's etc. snow will melt.  The climate will be better accomodating for plant life. Soon grass, trees and other plant life will grow, attracted a far greater amount of new species to come than there are in the Arctic regions.  There are numerous more reasons on disproving your, and many others belief that "global warming" exhists, but these are my main points that I feel are most important.  I will enclose my note with this.  I love mother nature, the great beauties of the world, and ALL animals that exhist, I spend alot of my time studying the world today, its history, and its future, and if there really was a problem caused by humans I would be in full support to stopping it, but I'm sorry, there really is just no problem.

Answer 10

"But the truth is the planet has NEVER gone through a natural warming phase with man made greenhouse gases in our atmosphere."

You're half right. The planet has never, nor is it now going through any thing because of "man-made" gasses. Until you can actually measure the entire atmosphere, and backtrack all molecules to their source, all you have is a theory about where those gases are coming from.

Where you're half-wrong is about the Earth never having gone through a natural warming phase. Ever hear of a place called Greenland. Look it up. I'll wait.

Are you back? See, the Earth was warm, not from the Vikings' SUVs and factories but as a natural cycle. Then it got cold again and the Vikings had to move.

By the way, are you aware that Mars is going through a global wamring period as well? Ever see any SUVs on Mars? No?

Answer 11

For one thing its hard to convince people of global warming when we just had one of or worst winters in years. I know that global warming doesn't just mean warming, but also erratic weather patterns.

I propose that the name of global warming should be changed to something more appropriate.

How about "Planetary Erratic Atmospheric Anomaly".

Answer 12

because i will be dead by the time it is a problem so who the fuc*k cares?

Answer 13

Denial is so much easier than responsibility!

Americans are encouraged to be lone rangers, rather than communal thinkers.  The design of our communities and work rewards (re: habits) all encourage this type of "save-yourself" thinking, and cultural change is a massive boat to manouvre, so people instinctively just ignore it - or blame others.

Answer 14

There are very few people alive today who remember a time before oil ran the planet.  it took over for coal in the 20th century which replaced wood in the 18th century as the fuel of choice since it was at that time relatively easy to find and get out of the ground.  and it changed our entire civilization.

everything you look at when you look in front of you today is oil related.  the plastics and inorganic materials for construction of almost everything is oil dependent.  the electricity to prepare the soil, plant, water, destroy pests and harvest for food, clothing or other natural products is generated by fossil fuels which, of course, include oil  

the idea that civilization as we know it is declining as the ability to discover new sources of fossil fuels and the cost of mining and processing them increases is too threatening to our way of life - especially in a hyper-developed society like america.

denial is the cause of death for the drug addict who, convinced he doesn't have a problem, either overdoses or wastes away and, unfortunately, denial may also be the death of civilization as we know it entering the 21st century

Answer 15

Because this has been over-politicized, over-stated, and misrepresented and flat-out lied about.

Humans can only claim responsibility, if that's the word, for abut 3.4% of carbon dioxide emitted to the atmosphere annually, the rest of it is all natural.

http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/

Answer 16

I think people have trouble with the concept of global warming because the idea is so overwhelming.

Answer 17

MONEY! As long as there is a dollar to made, who cares about the environment. One day tres will not be able to produce the paper we need for money. Why?      Theyll all be gone. but then itll be too late to do anything about it.

Answer 18

Yes, its true that global warming is making significant impact on the climate changes. But only a small percentage of the carbon dioxide is emitted by humans. The man-made pollution and carbon dioxide produced by us has very little impact on global warming. Most of the carbon dioxide is produced from all the other living things on earth plus everything around us, which are actually contributing a lot more to global warming than we are. Global wamring is a natural process, and even though it may be warming the earth a lot more compared to earliar times in history, its mainly because of the sun might be probably getting hotter. Humans cant really do anything to stop this at all.

You cannot rely on global warming info from mainstream media, such as al gore's movie "an inconvient truth". Dont think that gore knows what global warming is all about because he's not a scientist, he's a freaking politician. Its all propaganda, its all false. You need to do some more research on outside of what the public has given you. many scientists are actually saying that global warming is not man-made. there is a whole lot of science behind this global warming issue you need to understand to see the real truth behind the cause of global warming. the basic facts that people all know about global wamring doesnt help much at all.