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Why do religous people give excuses as to why we can't see the their god?

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They give things like:

"Look into your heart"

"Look at birds and trees"

"Their book quotes"

Excuses like that.

It's like someone saying Posiedon exists, and instead of giving me the 100 foot blue fish/man hybrid with a trident in his hand, I get:

"Hey, look at the ocean, this is proof that this guy exists".

Why do religous people desperatly try to proof things outside our realm of reality using means that fall within our realm of reality?

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  1. because other peaple are asking for proof


  2. Because you know, that's the whole point of religion? The universe is endless and aimless.

    There is a point of 'reality' far beyond human understanding, and that's when you get c**p like 'God' and 'fate' and 'luck.'

    People do not understand zealous faith. It caused the Dark Ages, how can you not understand why they try and how easy it is?

  3. I know exactly what you mean. I grew up in an apostolic christian household with a preacher as a father. I am now 21 and g*y.....which the bible says is worthy of death. I just simply have my own beliefs. My family just doesn't understand. They are always nagging at me with excuses like the ones you stated. I get so sick of hearing them that it causes a fight everytime I talk to my oldest brother who is now studying to be a preacher. They think that just because we don't go to church and have the same beliefs as them that we live in a completely different world. When in reality we've lived more than they have. They stick with their godly lives of supposedly no sin while we are out wittnessing or doing  what really goes on in this world. Don't get me wrong....I have great respect for the religion that I grew up with and other people's beliefs, but we are actually living when they are out living for someone that they can't see. Someone that they were taught exists.

  4. God, by nature is a spirit, you can not visibly see a spirit. If you are so hardened to pose a question like this, you obviously have no intention of listening or truly receiving an answer that would provide the information you seek.

    I truly feel saddened by people that would rather throw out hate than to just admit that they do not understand or would like to know.

    P.S. I expect many thumbs down, but I for one, KNOW that God exists, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

  5. because if they didn't they wouldn't be religious.

  6. They're not trying to "prove" anything.  Religion is a mechanism of faith...not proof.  "Religious people" don't believe because they KNOW, they believe because they have a deep faith.

  7. because people want to believe and so people have to invent ways to convince themselves it is reasonable to believe.

    and how exactly do you present some one with proof from another realm anyway.

  8. It's a mental defense mechanism. Did you read 1984? Doublethink? It's like that.

  9. you know why we can't see god?

    because god came down in a form we could understand, as jesus, and humanity rejected him.

    humanity prefered a murderor over the messiah!

    so when he died to protect us, he probably decided once was enough

  10. Because they're trying their hardest to help you understand, which can be rather difficult b/c it's not easy to explain,-especially if you've not been raised around "religious" people. It's all about faith. Again, you prob think that sounds stereotypical. Actually put all beliefs (positive & negative) out of your mind w/o bias. Then read a chapter in the Bible, try Genesis- the first book. It does say in the Bible that one can not see God and live. But God & Jesus are as one and Jesus desended from Heaven in the form of man so we as humans can have the opportunity to believe and accept him as our savior. This is a revolving door question...it will keep going round & round. Good luck getting your answer within though!

  11. Well for one thing we don't have any excuses. We just haven't the eyes to see Him in this life. So a good number of us use analogies to explain Him and His existence but myself? I don't really use them, I know that He is here, I know that we cannot handle the sight of Him. Even Moses was told to turn his eyes and all he got was a glance at the Almighty's back as He went past Moses. The countenance of Moses was so bright after that for so long that he actually had to wear a veil to cover his face. Moses' countenance was so bright that it frightened the Hebrews and it blinded them as well. To actually see God manifested in the physical form .... it would kill us, we would not be able to withstand the sight as it is that powerful.

    We don't use excuses, we use the best thing we can think of that another could relate to.

    Imagine this.... if you could bring a man here in a time machine from three thousand years ago and take him on an Airbus 380 for a flight from Toronto to London then send him back to the Mideast where he was from three thousand years ago how do you think he would describe the jet? How do you think he would describe modern society? It would be a very strange thing to relate to wouldn't it?

    To see God would be a very hard thing to relate to someone else even if we could live through the sight.

    No excuses my man, just the best we can do under the circumstances.

  12. Have you ever believed in something/someone that was not temporally with in your grasp?

    love itself is something you know and the power is within yourself and only the effects are tangible.

    How is it that faith can not be treated with the same respect?!

  13. the ocean exists-the sky is blue, sometimes-and as far as a trident that exists, how did you know about that? a god is not a guy, nor is reality real.

    have you seen my pills?

  14. To be honest, that isn't a very good question.  There are plenty of things you can't see that affect you anyway.

    I mean, unless you'd like to try to point to gravity, or insist that it's not real and that you could fly if you really wanted to...

    You might try "percieve" instead, although of course this is still pushing the concept a lilttle.

    Faith is one of those things that just is.  Either you have it, or you don't.   If you do, it's hard to shake.  If you don't, it's hard to accept.  Me, as far as I can tell I was born without it.  I tried it on for a while in my youth, but it didn't fit.  Kept slipping off.

    On the other hand, I can't understand some of the freakier things the universe is supposed to be capable of, either, much as I try to grasp the concept of a universe existing as a point with nothing outside it, not even nothing as we understand it.

    Accepting it without understanding the slightest bit about how it's supposed to work.  That's pretty close to faith, is it not?  "From 2+2=4, I extrapolate the universe."

    I don't often run into religious people who try to "prove" their fath is correct (except the fundies, but they don't believe in what they believe anyway, so it's beside the point).  Usually "faith simply is" is enough.  As long as they don't try to make it part of the curricula, I let them.  If they do... well, I've never met a religious "proof" I couldn't shred to ribbons.

    To be honest, I find these "evangelical atheists" far more bothersome.  They often know even less about what they're talking about than the fundies.  You can't base a philosophy on simple negation, just automatically gainsaying anything the other guy says.  That doesn't make you smart, just  reverse-polarity stupid.

  15. It is because religious people are confused between two things and they think its one thing. Namely:

    1. god exists

    2. god is revealed

    That can be easily solved like this: "god exists but he's concealed to our senses".

    It also makes sense, as god (or Creator) is a desire to bestow and creatures are a desire to receive. Therefore opposite in spiritual attributes and therefore completely detached and concealed from one another like East from West. (which again, would make sense as religion is talking about creation, so how can there be a creation without the detachment of the creature). Also, how else would there be free will without concealment from god, if god would be revealed we'd all run to him like a moth to the light bulb.

    So to answer your question, religion is based on faith below reason, and any attempt to bring it to faith within reason will fail.

  16. Because most of the religions need them to spread the word around.

    I have alwasy accepted my grandchildrens invisble friends - why not? I have felt no need to quiz them on how they knwo they are real - as I chidl I felt hands holding mine that were not there for anyone to see - and I didn't tell anybody about my experience because nobody else talked about 'theirs'.

    I guess becasue these expereince hurt no one and are private. My grandchildren dont want to share thier friend with me.

    its only when someone crosses our boundaries that we want proof  - and they are out to get more souls for jesus or whomever but with such  a dreadful sales pitch.

    So they wouldn't need to give excuses if they didnt have to do a stint on sales.

  17. You ask me, I ask who?

  18. Why are you trying to argue with the "Mentally Challenged" in the first place? In their eyes looking at a rock IS proof!

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