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Why do you think no 'alarmists' pointed out that Australia just had its hottest January on record?

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As pointed out by Ken in one of the China questions, Australia just had its hottest January on record.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080201/sc_afp/australiaclimateweather_080201051820

Not a single AGW 'alarmist' made a big deal about this, or even pointed it out. Yet there have already been 10 questions today about China having its coldest winter in 100 years.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Am6PaqtAlokuZbBgbvI2xh4AAAAA;_ylv=3?qid=20080205082823AAcjmHT

Why do you think 'deniers' are making such a fuss about China's weather while 'alarmists' are not doing the same with regards to Australia's weather?

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  1. Weather events don't hit the "top 20" in terms of what we have to be concerned about with regards to global warming.  

    The theory has enough science and evidence behind it that there is no need for misinformation or exaggeration.

    If we were to talk about meteorology for a moment, China's record cold may be reasonable given the particularly cold ENSO cycle we're in, but Australia's record heat seems odd in that context.  Neither however demonstrate or prove anything about climate without being itegratedinto the global picture over long periods of time.

    I wonder how long and accurate China's weather measurements are.  If they've only been tracking for 50 years, records there would be broken with a fairly high frequency.


  2. Because severe cold kills people, animals and crops and damages infrastructure. Global warming is a mythical projection that will cause problems at some point in the future according to the IPCC report.

    EDIT:

    But on a more serious note, according to your own statements diurnal temperature extremes should be less and less as atmospheric CO2 levels increase. So abnormally warm temperatures as well as abnormally cold temperatures are not supported by the AGW theory.

  3. FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL!!!

    FEAR FEAR FEAR

    fear and money grease the hinges to the gates to heaven.

    Fear is being funded by the governments of the world.

    Scientists spreading fear are getting RICH!!!

    Al Gore owns a carbon credit company while his own house uses more energy than a neighborhood.

    He justifies it by buying carbon credits from himself.

    Environmentalism is a religion and fear is the glue that binds all religions together.

    Sacred Mother EARTH

    Lets restore Human sacrifice to stop global warming!!!

    Humans are a cancer on the earth and earth needs to be rid of this cancer

  4. What we're looking at (and for) is general trends, not specific instances.

    But, hey, when the ice caps melt, you can always surf to the Himalayas.

  5. This is because the deniers do not have a scientific leg to stand on. All that they are able to do is cherry pick information and ignore whichever facts conflict with their opinions.

    Most of people who understand that one storm, one month, one season, does not equal climate, generally have an understanding of the scientific method and the science behind the greenhouse theory and recent anthropogenic (man made) global warming.

  6. gee, i didn't notice.

    i also didn't notice that they didn't point out that China is having it's coldest winter on record.

    i'm sure you can find examples of both postings.

    but they're both weather, not climate.

    the question comes up today because one of yesterday's headlines was about China's cold weather.  so one would expect there to be lots of such posts.  honestly i didn't know that Australia was having it's hottest summer.  that being the case, i'd expect more posts to point out China than Australia.

  7. Everybody knows that there are two sides to the theory by the PICC. So, the scientist's who don't want to point out whats really going on deny that Global Warming is accuring, while the side that does believe, are too busy trying to prove their point to the other side.

    ++ The side of the scientist that don't believe in GW, are actually trying to cover up the story. My uncle that works in PICC, has told me that the whole place is in panic about Global Warming while the people that don't believe in it, are painting their nails and reading magazines. And I totaly believe him, because he actually showed me a data basis graph that the climate change for the past year is totaly up. If I find the map in my email... ill send.

  8. You just did....congrats!

  9. If I'm correct and I believe I am, but I a denier, so I'm sure I'll be called stupid or ignorant.  

    But isn't it summer down in Australia?  

    Wasn't it Winter down under during our summer in North America, in 2005, the warmest on record?  (1934 was warm too, but you never hear that)

    Why would it snow in Australia on the warmest year on record?

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200...

  10. I believe that the fact that one part of globe is having record warm temps and one part of the globe is having record cold temps should tell you something.

  11. Let me guess..is it because the 'deniers' know the truth of global warming and the alarmists have not got their AlGore fix today?

    Here is truth about global warming:

    Global warming is one-half of the climatic cycle of warming and cooling.

    The earth's mean temperature cycles around the freezing point of water.

    This is a completely natural phenomenon which has been going on since there has been water on this planet. It is driven by the sun.

    Our planet is currently emerging from a 'mini ice age', so is

    becoming warmer and may return to the point at which Greenland is again usable as farmland (as it has been in recorded history).

    As the polar ice caps decrease, the amount of fresh water mixing with oceanic water will slow and perhaps stop the thermohaline cycle (the oceanic heat 'conveyor' which, among other things, keeps the U.S. east coast warm).

    When this cycle slows/stops, the planet will cool again and begin to enter another ice age.

    It's been happening for millions of years.

    The worrisome and brutal predictions of drastic climate effects are based on computer models, NOT CLIMATE HISTORY.

    As you probably know, computer models are not the most reliable of sources, especially when used to 'predict' chaotic systems such as weather.

    Global warming/cooling, AKA 'climate change':

    Humans did not cause it.

    Humans cannot stop it.

  12. You need to understand the difference between weather and climate.

    Maybe one day you'll be an actual Climatologist.  Then you will understand.....

  13. The weather in any given particular place at some particular time has nothing to do with whether global warming is happening.

    It's about general trends over fairly long periods of time on a global basis. Global warming because of the change in weather patterns that it would cause, might make one place colder and another place hotter, one place wetter and another place dryer. It is very complex and cannot in any way be explained or proved or disproved by looking at such specific things like whether it is cold at your house or cold in China.

    That's the problem with so many people who want to put in their two cents and don't have a clue what they are talking about. Ignore such stupid questions and their stupid answers.

  14. January is summer time in Australia right? It makes since that it would be warm there now. What was it like in July this year?  Summer temps do fluctuate some. In Tennessee (US) we had 28 days straight of 100+ degrees and that was 20 years ago.  Last summer we only had maybe 10-15 days of 100+ temps.  There are always highs and lows that make an average.  Did some of those temps make new record highes? If so by how much?

  15. They didnt point it out because they could not point Australia out on a map.....though, I am contradicting myself because they can probably not point China out on a map either.

      errrrmmmm.....They didnt point it out because it does not fit their theory..... They didnt point it out because the Australian weather has not been mentioned on www.denier.com....

  16. I had to laugh at Jello's comment.  LOL

    You said:

    As pointed out by Ken in one of the China questions, Australia just had its hottest January on record.

    That's one.  There was Ken and then there was someone right after Ken's post to guess how many China cold weather posts.  

    So the answer is at least 3 but I didn't pay that much attention so I am sure there are many more.

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