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Why does everyone LUV Parelli training methods soooooo much?

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  1. whats that?


  2. First off, PAT is not the marketer or the sales man on this train! That's his wife's deal, she saw that people will fall for any fad and jumped on it. Yes, the idea is wonderful! But any one of us can buy a length of rope, the book that shows how to tie the knots and make our own rope halter! And the "carrot stick" is just a sort stick you can get at any feed store in the show cattle area, with another chunk of rope tied to it.

    I know you said "No details, just answer the question", but check this out.

    Second his method is just an enhanced idea of what Ray Hunt and Tom Dorance, etal. teach. Those men have been training horses for many years.

    If you listen to Pat, he will tell you that he didn't come up with this idea. He admits that he did all the "bad" things you could to a horse, and learned the hard way how to not get hurt when working with them. He worked for a man who caused the "drop the bit" rule in Reining by drilling holes in a horse's teeth to wire its mouth shut.

    I'm not sure why everyone loves the Parelli idea so much, other than FAD and simplicity to be a member and have that to boast about.

    I've been to a Ray Hunt clinic--and might have one of the only things he's ever signed at one--and also to a Pat Parelli seminar and I see the similarities. However, Ray didn't say every other sentence "help me help a million people ....blah blah blah". Ray just says, "THINK" and that's it, think about what happens before what happens, happens. That's not simple!!!

  3. Okay first off Parelli isn't just snaking a whip at a horse.  Watch the body posture - it absolutely mimicks a horses posture -  If the horse runs from the whip and he stops "snaking" it - then what it just taught the horse is to "RUN and be afraid!"  HOWEVER, he doesn't stop shaking it until the horses feet are standing still - and then he stops - so since a horse is a condition response animal - what Pat just did was set teh condition that if the horse is afraid, not to run - and the "whip" or the scary thing - will stop!  

    You have to watch a horses body to see how Pat has mimicked what he's trying to get across to his student (the horse).  When a horse pins its ears - there is an aggressive posture the horse takes - Pat tries to mimick it.  Its not hard to understand - however, until you are willing to learn - and work hard at it - just like everything else that is different - you'll not make it work for you.  Just cus you dont understand it - really doesn't mean its not a good method - Just keep working at it - watch ALL the details and do it ONE baby step at a time - you'll get it!  I will add that some of you are right - he is an excellent marketer! But - if the methods didn't work - it wouldn't be as popular as it is!

  4. Its a kind and natural way to go, and it works.

  5. No clue. They are just really expensive halters, lines and sticks. I am not one of the Parelli followers.

  6. because pat parelli is a genius at marketing.

    natural horsemanship helps you to build a relationship with your horse. it is very appealing to a lot of people who have a lot of sympathy, empathy for the horse. and pat makes it very easy to understand with his games, etc.

    that kind of training has been around for a LONG time. much longer than parelli. check out bill and tom dorrance, ray hunt, buck brannaman, etc. i only found out recently that i do a lot of parelli games already...after someone finally made me watch his video.

  7. i dont know it is only all that expense stuff that Katie said

  8. i dont...

    it's expensive and it hasn't worked with my three horses... who are completely different personalities and training... so it should have worked on one  of them?

    also you can sub the expensive stuff for cheaper things but they dont do anything different than a regular rope halter and a regular dressage whip and a regular lunge line....

    it's just pat parelli trying to scam you out of money!

    for a select few (meaning only his horses) it works... but maybe you have to be very experienced in that sort of thing... or maybe you just need to be more patient or something i dont know... i just know on my 3 horses it hasnt worked at all...

    <3

  9. I completley retrained my ex racer to do dressage using parelli methods. i went from a dutch gag to a bitless and insted of bolting across feilds we do now passage and piaffe across them =)

    It doesnt work for every horse but when it does work, it works well

  10. I guess because people that don't know any different thinks he has all the answers. I'm not a fan, but I'm sure he has something I could learn from him. But that's how I feel about anyone with any knowledge of horse training. No one knows everything and I can learn something new everyday. Personally, I like Chris Cox as a trainer. He can cowboy up and gives simple plain honest tips and methods.

    Just one horse persons opinion.

    ADD; Whoa, I didn't me to say anything offensive. I think you asked a good question!

  11. I do NOT know.

  12. Because he is an amazing marketer, and makes the owners feel good about what they are doing, that they are playing with the animal.

    Because no matter what many people say the first natural horsemen where called Vaquero's.

    He is an amazing marketer.

    Edit- I just have a problem with anyone who swears by only one method of doing something. THAT my friends is how bigotry starts. To become a trainer myself I have studied under 4 separate trainers, and I constantly talk with other trainers or read articles on horse. Plus can any one here tell me the last thing, outside a meaningless honorary award, Parelli has won. I rather trust a trainer who has won world championships.

  13. Because Parelli makes beginners feel like experts.  He makes them feel they can train their own horses without disciplining them.  That's what he's really selling - that good feeling.

    A few games and good intentions and you'll have a great horse - people want to believe it.  So they buy the stuff.  But it's a marketing myth.

  14. I have no idea why he became such a fad EXCEPT that he appeals to people who like to work with horses but are afraid to ride one.  Most of his techniques involve ground work.  Fine and dandy but once you put a bridle on the horse and climb on the rules change.

  15. The point of teaching the snaking (I use the lead rope dragged on the ground and snaked around my horse's legs) is not so much to stop a fear response as it is to teach a more sensible response to scary things.  A horse that doesn't panic and rear/bolt /buck/kick, etc. is less likely to throw the rider, and less likely to tangle itself up if it gets caught in wire, etc.  The horse that isn't trained to respond with quiet and calm is going to respond with fight and flight, and that often gets them into trouble.  I desensitize my horses to most things that could get them into trouble if they overreact to them.

    Parelli is one trainer, and you can take or leave his methods....there are plenty of good trainers out there to choose from.

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