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Why does the underground not have an outer circle line.?

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  1. Don't be silly... that would make it really easy for the public to get around.  The idea of public transport is to make it as difficult as possible, as hot as possible and create as many delays as possible...  oooh and don't forget they need to shut parts of the bloody thing down at weekends, just to add to the joy...


  2. I guess you mean an outer circle line in zone2 of the London underground?  

    Probably because it would be incredibly long and therefore too expensive. It would also require 2 more tunnels under the Thames.  Also, the majority of passengers probably want to travel in and out of central London, not around it - especially commuters.

    If they want to travel around in zone 2 then they can use the overground rail & bus networks.

  3. there is an outer rail it runs clockwise opposite to the inner rail ther although in history there was an outer circle and even a super outer circle for a short while we think they did not fully develop due to lack of funds also most people comute to and from London and place of residence full details can be found on the link I'm sending you click on history for extra info about the old outer and super outer also this might interest you>>>>>>>>>>

    Orbirail is a name for a suggested orbital railway route around London. It would involve connecting the extended East London Line, the North London Line, the West London Line, the South London Line and (possibly) the Gospel Oak to Barking Line to form a route that would orbit London in Zone 2, Zone 3 and (possibly) Zone 4. It is not to be confused with London's existing circular railway, the Circle Line, which is contained entirely within the central Zone 1.

  4. In eighteen hundred and frozen to death when the railways in London were just 'feeling their way', the District Railway had a route which ran from Earls Court via Mansion House, Tower Hill (then "Mark Lane"), Baker Street, Paddington, and then down to Windsor, later Richmond. With the coming of what we now know as the Circle Line, this 'upstart' (a joint effort between the District and Metropolitan Railways) then became known as THE INNER CIRCLE whilst the Earls Court to Windsor/Richmond line became (strangely!) THE OUTER CIRCLE.

    The OUTER soon disappeared for several reasons leaving only The INNER CIRCLE. Over the course of time, this Was renamed as simply THE CIRCLE LINE by London Transport. For operational reasons, instead of being a north/south or east/westbound line, the clockwise direction is known as "The Outer Rail" (Edgware Road>Liverpool Street>Charing Cross>High Street Ken) and the anti-clockwise is known as "The Inner Rail" (Edgware Road>High Street Ken>CX>Lst etc).

    Just to balls things up in the future, come 2009 (allegedly!) there will be new trains (to be called "S" stock) and the pattern of services on the Circle/Hammersmith & City lines will be drastically altered to become what is professionally known as a "teacup" route after the shape it will become - as distinct from (almost!) a Circle.

    If there's anybody else out there who wants a little known fact a la Michael Caine concerning the Underground, try this one: Where (on the tube) can you travel between the same two stations (but on different lines), one of which is going Northbound, the other Southbound?

    Answer: Euston to Kings Cross on the Victoria Line is Northbound whilst Euston to Kings Cross  on the Northern Line is Southbound.

    Ain't life tedious?.....

  5. I take it you are talking about the London Underground?

    The one in Glasgow has both an inner and an outer circle, both go to the same stops but in the oposite direction of  course.

    I think the reason there is no outer circle in London could be because the original underground was just called the circle and was run by a different company. When the new company opened theirs they called it the inner circle.

    Presumably because it was inner to the original, and although the original is outer to the new one it would have been silly to change the name.

    However I could be wrong about this, but it seems quite a sensible guestimate.

  6. I'm no expert, but I imagine that due the the sheer size of London, the cost of constructing an outer circle line would be massive.  Would the number of passengers wanting to travel around (rather than into) London justify the cost?

    Underground trains may not be the best or most comfortable method for travelling such distances, main-line railways would be a more viable option.

  7. There is an Horseshoe - The Sliverlink Metro from Woolwich to Richmond, via Stratford, Camden, Hampstead and Acton

    It may be possible to run an outer circle when the East London Line is complete. Clapham - Richmond - Acton - Hampstead - Camden - Dalston - Whitechapel - New Cross - Peckham - Clapham

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