Why don't the radical Sunni clerics focus on the real threat than on Iran and the s**+'a?

Question

the real threat being international imperialism and zionism which currently is headed by the U.S and Israel.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080601/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saudi_shiites;_ylt=AsJEp1VaUl0VIjx1b8YVkBILewgF

Answer 1

Iran doesnt mean Shias. Theres many, many Sunni voices in Iran that arent heard. And the prophet peace be upon him said good things about Persians..

So Shias is something and Iran and Persia is something else.

(By the way, it was Umar raa who brought Islam to Persia )

And the Shias that go to Husainiyyat and curse Sunni figures, namely Abu Bakr and Umar and Aisha raa, what should Sunnis that love them, expect from those who hate them? Love?

This is Shiekh Yasir Al Habib a famous Kuwaiti shia scholar, saying the Shias number one enemy isnt Israel, but its first, Umar, then Abu Bakr, then Iblees ( Satan )... so Satan is number three...

http://www.fnoor.com/media/fn275.ram

This is a video of the grave of Abu Lu'lo'ah Al Majoosi ( fireworshipper who killed Umar, then killed himself and never was Muslim ) , with a mosque built over it and Shias visiting it in Iran calling him Shuja' Al Deen ( The brave one )

http://www.fnoor.com/media/fn509.rm

I mean is that hatred or what?

(They officially closed it last year as announced on public TV )

This is Yasir Al Habib clearly and directly stating that Sunnis are the Nasibees, therefore kafir. http://www.fnoor.com/media/fn107.ram

Why do they state otherwise publically? Heres Ayatallah Mujtaba Al Shirazee saying that its time  for Shias to put Taqiyyah ( not saying the truth, hiding it ) aside and announce the real beliefs with no feel of shame, saying the prophets wife Aisha, and Abu Bakr and Umar are kafir. Saying why blame a shia who doesnt use Taqiyyah and say the truth? Why live in fear and not say the truth?

http://www.fnoor.com/media/fn367.ram

So even the ones that dont speak badly may be very well practicing Taqiyyah.

Oh and by the way, for the record, did you know that Shiekh Muhammad Bin AbdulWahabs sons, were named Hasan, Al Hussain, Ali, and Fatimah? And that we see him as a very moderate person?

Did you know that Umar raa married the daughter of Ali raa?

Far from complex politics (  because they are dirty ) , a simple observation is never did shias, fight with non Muslims, except in defence. And in offence they only fought Sunnis as clear in the Safawee nation.

And it has always been clear that the talk about Palestine, is just to USE the issue, to export Shiasm. Nobody would trust Shias in power even if they say we love Sunnis etc because it seems to be talk and talk only, especially when you hear what they teach about us.

Even at the time of Hussain they let him down, and now beat themselves for it.... all talk.

There was a public debate between Shia and Sunni scholars years ago, and their beliefs and feelings were very, very clear.

When we read Shia hadeeths saying that they want to dig Abu Bakr and Umar out of their graves, what can be expected from them as a nation?

Im sorry but its the creed that they were taught since they were kids.. they are taught that wrong was done against them, and that they need to take revenge, for Al Hussain? Revenge from who? Israel? No. Sunnis.

I do realize not all Shias are like this. Many especially the Iranian ones, are normal moderate people. I had an Iranian friend that came to our mosque and finally when we became friends he opened up and asked if we hated Ali!!

He was surprised to know that we dont, and that we can put the books of Muhammad Bin AbdulWahab aside because we only consider him a reminder who brought nothing new. And that his sons and daughters ...were named Ali Hasan Hussain and Fatimah...  Anyway he finally became Sunni along with his wife..

So im not talking about the laymen.... and moderate people but the scholars and leaders of Shia communities... who promote stuff like that...

Look what happenned in Iran to AyatAllah Burqai who became Sunni, and ended up in prison Evin, then later died?

And yes its a threat to Sunnis in Lebanon for instance when HizbAllah turns against the Sunnis and publically declares alligence to Iran and belief in Wilayat Al Faqeeh.

Many like to USE causes like the Palestinian cause for their own benefit. Combine that with such statements, videos, and the concept of Taqiyyah being 9/10th of religion, and the spirit of revenge.. its a scary thought.... anyone fair can clearly see that...

Whether the Iranian ways are "good" or "bad" or "evil" as Bush puts it... or Hamas ways are good or bad or evil as Bush puts it.... Shias, publically on paltalk, saying Ahmad Yaseen ( founder of Hamas ) is a swine.. right after he was killed by Israelis as an old man... tells you something.....

As this hatred didnt come from nowhere... this has roots... and anyone fair would admit this as something observed...

http://www.fnoor.com/media/fn105.ram

Yes, they may be extremist, but it certainly has its roots, and we have no reason at all, to believe that Iran ( as a government ) doesnt support this. Rather the contrary, when we see how the beliefs are based on revenge, for the blood of Al-Hussain raa, using that to direct emotions anywhere they [clerics] want.

My Iranian friend used to also tell me about corruption in the Iranian system and clerics, and stories about Al Khumus (1/5) , and money being sent to them from people, as a part of the shia beliefs, all just, didnt help give a good picture.

Heres another link of an Egyptian Shia shiekh calling Aisha ... names.. http://www.fnoor.com/media/fn351.ram

And heres a video of Fadil Al Maliki saying Al Mahdi will dig Abu Bakr and Umar, out of their graves and crucify them

http://www.fnoor.com/media/fn295.ram

In texts its clear that he will turn against the Sunnis as the first thing he does...

So I think their feelings towards us isnt exactly friendly... and the problem is that these feelings are the basis of the religion ( feeling that they have always been opressed, and need revenge etc )

Answer 2

Considering Israel left Gaza and South Lebanon as well as gave the Sinai back to Egypt, I highly doubnt there is some zionist conspiracy out there.

The US already closed its Saudi bases and likely will close all its gulf bases as well leaving only a base in Iraq . And the US has never made any moves at Saudi, so pointless to even bring up the US.

Shia are becomming more powerful in Iraq and Lebanon and many people in Syria are becomming shia, and this is causing Saudi ulama to worry as the power is shifting from Salafi to Shia.

When the Iranian Revolution happened, there was panic in the sunni world that shia islam would expand, so the panic is happening again amongst sunnis.

Answer 3

coz iran is the real threat

Answer 4

the real threat is letting various sects fight against each other in Civil War  like  what is happening in  Iraq right now ( life example)...Israel is democracy and Democratic countries usually abide by UN rules.....USA is the world police so you can't fight them........

Answer 5

There are fatwas from top Sunni (or Wahhabi) clerics in Saudi Arabia which declare it permissible- not just permissible but an obligation- for Wahhabis to kill Shias, that's why now 100s of Saudi terrorists cross the border to Iraq or even Iran (as we saw last month in the Shiraz Mosque blast), they go there not to fight the occupier but to kill Shias, Islam is innocent of those primitive thugs. Everything is haram for them, music is haram, women driving is haram, women not wearing hijab or abaya is haram, everything is haram except killing people that's halal for them. Until now no Sunni cleric from Saudi Arabia or anywhere has condemned violence against Shias, that means they all support it. If these crazed fanatics were blowing up Christians or Jews in the United States and elsewhere then you would have heard all these clerics and their kings raise an outcry for every person killed, but now they stay silent because it's Shias getting killed.

Iran has more balls than all the Arabs combined, long live Iran!