Why don't they use electrolosys to make hydrogen out of water for cars instead of getting it from petroleum?

Question

apparently doing it out of hydrocarbons still pollutes so whats the point

Answer 1

It is cheaper from natural gas or other hydrocarbons.

Electrolysis would be inefficient and more expensive. As the price of fossil fuels rises, electrolysis will get more and more competitive.  

Answer 2

The method wud seem so simple tehoritically but it is not. The process takes up much electricity and providing a source for that is hard on a running vehicle. Also, the hydrogen so produced may easily escape and it would be very hard to compress and store it in the evhicle while in transit.

Answer 3

We already have ways to get hydrogen out of water you can do it at home and even collect it but it's dangerous.  there is no cheep way to produce hydrogen and even if there was your going to have to use the grid already and if you have a power plant from a Dam they are getting rid of them as well so start learning to walk that's what they want anyway.

Answer 4

let me start off by saying Hydrogen is a great option for the concept of free energy.     I built my first hydrogen cell about 5 years ago. Have converted over 50 vehicles in the last 10 years (gydrogen and EV) and now currently run 2 trucks (and another EV), my home hot water heater, home stove and home generator on hydrogen for free with caught rain water and the help of a $10 solar panel.  I offer a step by step DIY guide to walk anyone interested threw the process. You can find it at www agua-luna com or you can email me.

There are basically 3 safe ways to make and use it... chemically, electrically and molecularly, the first 2 being easier so I'll only discuss them here. The fallowing steps were taking directly out of a DIY guide I offer to those who would like to run their vehicles or home on hydrogen safely. The entire guide is available at www agua-luna com

    On demand h2 generators are a bit different from the Hollywood versions like seen Chain Reaction with Keanu Reeves, that tend to explode violently every time a film is being made. However when used in an on-demand system there is no storage of hydrogen and oxygen in its gas form, only liquid (water) and is only transformed into gas “on-demand” in small cylinder size amounts. It’s actually safer then gasoline as it doesn’t evaporate, creating explosive fumes in the tank like gas. the following were actually taken out of my $5 guide available at www agua-luna com

    Chemically

    1. You’ll need a 6inch x 1ft schedule 40 pvc pipe. With pvc cement glue a cap on the bottom and use a s***w on cap for the top. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, s******g in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve and into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections).

    2. Now crunch up a couple aluminum cans (beer cans, soda cans etc) and drop them into the pvc pipe, along with a couple cups of lye (Red Devil drain opener has lye in it, some Clorox and Drano’s do to).

    3. Then simply add water, s***w on the top and wait a few minutes.

    What happens in simplicity is that aluminum and lye don’t really get along so they battle, and as always the innocent civilians (water H2O) that the most casualties, by giving up its hydrogen and oxygen. This then builds up in the void of the pipe and is ready to be vented into your engine, by opening the valve. You may need to start your engine on gas then switch it off after the hydrogen starts burning.

    Electrical is a bit easier then Chemically.

    1. Simply take a small solar panel 1.5 amps is what I use ($9 at harborfreight.com), connect the 2 wires from the panel +- to 2 conductors (carbon cores of batteries work well, just be careful removing it from the jacket), but any conductive material will work ie. Copper, aluminum, steel, etc.

    2. Drop the wires into a water tank (I use 55gal drums), make sure they don’t touch each other.

    3. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, s******g in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve and into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections).

    4. Then simply add water, s***w on the top cap and wait.

    After a few hours tiny bubbles will form and rise off one conductor (that’s hydrogen) and even smaller bubbles that just looks like foam will rise off the other (oxygen). I don’t remember which likes the positive and which likes the neg hydrogen or the oxygen.

    The third method is more complicated and is what I use for my vehicles. It’s just a modified Joe’s Cell, there’s a step by step DIY guide available to walk you threw the process here www agua-luna com

It also covers the other 2 methods described in more detail.

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Hope this helped, feel free to contact me personally if you have any questions if you’d like assistance in making your first self sufficient steps, I’m willing to walk you step by step threw the process. I’ve written several how-to DIY guides available at  www agua-luna com on the subject. I also offer online and on-site workshops, seminars and internships to help others help the environment.

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Answer 5

it is far more efficient to take a hydrocarbon and split off the hydrogen than it is to remove the oxygen atom from the water molecule.  

Answer 6

One of the main car companies has a car that runs like this right now.  It cost over a million dollars to make and there is just the one.  They are working on making cars like that for the public, but it will take a few years before they can make them safe and cheaper.  

Answer 7

Simple, because most people are too skeptical to even try it for themselves because it's not supposed to work. Everyone(!) Who has tried it that I've ever found will tell you that it works but on paper it isn't supposed to so scientist and skeptics won't touch it. Try it for your self and you will see that it does work at least as a gasoline supplement to increase hpr and mileage for just the cost of buying the parts from the store. Everything you need to know is on youtube for free just search HHO.  

Answer 8

If you haven't been around for 50 years to see the cycle, we won't ever have alternative fuels.

Just when the gas price is so high that alternative fuels become doable, the oil companies  lower the price to make them not doable.  This happens on a 20 yr cycle if you have lived through a few it makes sense.

I hope gas costs $10 a gallon, then we might complete the alternative fuel process and make it less expensive than oil and therefore less pollution

Answer 9

All of the respondents plus:

Fresh water is in short supply.

Salt water is corrosive as heck.

It is still very inefficient.  It takes a lot of fresh water to produce the net amount of hydrogen to put in vehicles.

The inconvenient truth is that Oil is a h**l of an efficient energy source (Sorry Al).  It is unfortunate that it has so many draw-backs.

Answer 10

because it is very inefficient to make H2 by electrolysis, because it takes more energy.

Further more, no one would use H2 because it is son expensive and hard to store.

Answer 11

Electrolysis obviously uses electricity, and we burn coal to produce much of it. Some from nuclear, wind, and hydro. So pollution either way!