Why don't we use hydrogen in our cars? The technology is here now. How long can we bow down to big oil?

Question

IT IS BEING DONE IN NORWAY

CHECK IT OUT.

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/05/norway_funds_it.html

http://www.norsk-hydro.com/electrolysers/en/about_us/topics/heroya_2.html

Answer 1

Its there I agree been prooven many times over.

Auto makers have put their foots foward in designing a great car, but lacks support in an economy that is beleived to be not broken so why fix it.

Theres no one person that has all the money for doing such

a campaign but interest is always directed to not what needs

to be done but how can we make more.

This group that is vested in the fossil fuels industry will always do their most to keep it that way, to buffer new ideas in disturbing new trends that may interupt their incomes.

I beleive that oil interest will shift as new technology is introduced and of course there will be a new set of energy barrons feeding the world in a different way.

Answer 2

no stations to refuel...prices of the cars will be very high until full production is reached....there are no repair shops or mechanics to work on them... big oil makes less profit than wallmart...you can look it up...yahoo financial...big oil doesnt "own" the oil around the world...it was nationalized in the 1970s

Answer 3

It can be done, it is efficient, lower cost, environmentally friendly and has very little drawbacks. The technology is also available, proven and tested. So why is it not available? For the same reason that efficient electric cars stay in the labs where they are built and on paper. Because petrol companies  depend on polluting cars to survive so they buy the patents and pay off the inventors and scientist behind them. They own all the the model patents and will never disclose them. Plus, they are in cahoots with the government, so they is absolutely no chance of release.

Answer 4

And so where are they getting their hydrogen, exactly?  There aren't any hydrogen wells.  Actually, where they get it is, well, from oil, as stated in your norsk-hydro reference:

"Hydrogen is an energy carrier that can be produced from a range of different energy sources. It is a by-product at the petrochemical plants at Rafnes."

Which means that they take natural gas, which could otherwise be simply burned as it is, and heat it up until the carbon falls out of it.  What's left is hydrogen.  It's not a very efficient process, requiring a good deal of energy to heat the gas, and of course you have to get the natural gas to begin with.  It all comes from the oil companies.

So your "hydrogen economy" is currently impractical unless you happen to own the oil refinery, which these people do.

Answer 5

Jim,

let me start off by saying Hydrogen is a great option for the concept of free energy.     I built my first hydrogen cell about 5 years ago. Have converted over 50 vehicles in the last 10 years (gydrogen and EV) and now currently run 2 trucks (and another EV), my home hot water heater, home stove and home generator on hydrogen for free with caught rain water and the help of a $10 solar panel.  I offer a step by step DIY guide to walk anyone interested threw the process. You can find it at www agua-luna com or you can email me.

There are basically 3 safe ways to make and use it... chemically, electrically and molecularly, the first 2 being easier so I'll only discuss them here. The fallowing steps were taking directly out of a DIY guide I offer to those who would like to run their vehicles or home on hydrogen safely. The entire guide is available at www agua-luna com

    On demand h2 generators are a bit different from the Hollywood versions like seen Chain Reaction with Keanu Reeves, that tend to explode violently every time a film is being made. However when used in an on-demand system there is no storage of hydrogen and oxygen in its gas form, only liquid (water) and is only transformed into gas “on-demand” in small cylinder size amounts. It’s actually safer then gasoline as it doesn’t evaporate, creating explosive fumes in the tank like gas. the following were actually taken out of my $5 guide available at www agua-luna com

    Chemically

    1. You’ll need a 6inch x 1ft schedule 40 pvc pipe. With pvc cement glue a cap on the bottom and use a s***w on cap for the top. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, s******g in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve and into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections).

    2. Now crunch up a couple aluminum cans (beer cans, soda cans etc) and drop them into the pvc pipe, along with a couple cups of lye (Red Devil drain opener has lye in it, some Clorox and Drano’s do to).

    3. Then simply add water, s***w on the top and wait a few minutes.

    What happens in simplicity is that aluminum and lye don’t really get along so they battle, and as always the innocent civilians (water H2O) that the most casualties, by giving up its hydrogen and oxygen. This then builds up in the void of the pipe and is ready to be vented into your engine, by opening the valve. You may need to start your engine on gas then switch it off after the hydrogen starts burning.

    Electrical is a bit easier then Chemically.

    1. Simply take a small solar panel 1.5 amps is what I use ($9 at harborfreight.com), connect the 2 wires from the panel +- to 2 conductors (carbon cores of batteries work well, just be careful removing it from the jacket), but any conductive material will work ie. Copper, aluminum, steel, etc.

    2. Drop the wires into a water tank (I use 55gal drums), make sure they don’t touch each other.

    3. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, s******g in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve and into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections).

    4. Then simply add water, s***w on the top cap and wait.

    After a few hours tiny bubbles will form and rise off one conductor (that’s hydrogen) and even smaller bubbles that just looks like foam will rise off the other (oxygen). I don’t remember which likes the positive and which likes the neg hydrogen or the oxygen.

    The third method is more complicated and is what I use for my vehicles. It’s just a modified Joe’s Cell, there’s a step by step DIY guide available to walk you threw the process here www agua-luna com

It also covers the other 2 methods described in more detail.

www agua-luna com

Hope this helped, feel free to contact me personally if you have any questions if you’d like assistance in making your first self sufficient steps, I’m willing to walk you step by step threw the process. I’ve written several how-to DIY guides available at  www agua-luna com on the subject. I also offer online and on-site workshops, seminars and internships to help others help the environment.

Dan Martin

Alterative Energy / Sustainable Consultant, Living 100% on Alternative & Author of How One Simple Yet Incredibly Powerful Resource Is Transforming The Lives of Regular People From All Over The World... Instantly Elevating Their Income & Lowering Their Debt, While Saving The Environment by Using FREE ENERGY... All With Just One Click of A Mouse...For more info Visit:  

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Answer 6

Governments and car companies have to answer these. My best guess is that the taxes a country can earn from oil products, is enough reason why countries seems to act like snails in making provisions for alternative fuel cars. Reloading stations are easy to make, one must just have initiative or government subsidies. USA is the richest country right? I'm guessing that's where you're from, They better answer to you and to the rest of the world.