Why dont the global warming activists give up and just focus their efforts on cleaning up the environment?

Question

I understand ones desire to be proactive. I commend the people that can devote their time for a cause. But why attack our economy over a farce?

Global pollution and contamination is the real problem.

Hormones from BIRTH CONTROL in our drinking water.

Mercury in ground water poisoning plant and animal life.

Acid rain. Death of Honeybees. There are real problems out there. Things going wrong that neither political nor economical figures can deny. Its not worth ruining economic growth over the global warming fallacy. If you want to ruin the economy do it over something real, then I will agree.

Answer 1

If you can find a geologist, you can ask him this question “....hey doc! how many ice ages has the Earth experienced in the last million or so years?” The answer will be “...at least 13 but possibly 16 depending on when you start and how you count”. If you ask the same question about “global warmings” you will get exactly the same answer. This is known as a cycle and they are as set in geologic stone as Crust sitting atop Mantle is.

Answer 2

Becuase there is more profit in the crying than the fixing. Sad is it not????

Answer 3

I'm assuming you were one of those people who believed that smoking didn't cause cancer until those class action suits proved otherwise.

I can't wait to raise citrus fruit here in Michigan.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/...

Answer 4

It's called science, not environmental activism.

Don't let the facts or reality influence your opinion in any way.

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ReelBrothers –

You cannot talk about climate cycles that span periods when the continents were nowhere near their current positions or configuration.

The relevant period is post Younger-Dryas (the Holocene). You skipped a lot of science and technical classes in school, huh?

Answer 5

why is it that you believe scientists when they say the things you mention... but not when they talk about global warming?

in fact, some scientists seem to think that global warming may be linked to some of those issues, and most seem to agree that global warming is a bigger threat...  and some wonder how important some of those other issues are...

basically... the same people say the things you mention are a problem say global warming is a problem... how do you pick and choose between what you want to believe and don't?

basically, I could probably line up as many scientists as you could... to say that your issues aren't big problems, just as you could to say global warming doesn't exist... but both would be in the minority in the scientific community

Answer 6

Why do we have to triage the environmental problems we address? Why not address the list you cite AND global climate change?

I never understand the "economic ruin" theory attacking environmental initiatives. Haven't the 38 years since the passage of the original Environmental Protection Act been a period of great and increasing prosperity (minus a few inevitable bumps along the way)?

Answer 7

My take? It's a all a ploy to stay relevant.

Consider that many of the problems you list already have some sort of regulations restricting, guiding or promoting certain behaviours by individuals and organizations.  Many of these regulations and laws were promoted by "environmentalists".  

"Hey, you really shouldn't be dumping mercury into the water."

"OK, fine, we'll have companies stop doing that."

"Hey acid rain is a problem, you shouldn't dump so much sulphur into the air."

"OK, fine, we'll have them install scrubbers and use cleaner-burning fuel."

"Hey, there are too many trees being cut down."

"Fine, we'll set up protected wildlife and national parks."

Much like unions, the reasons they came into existence was to bring about government intervention. Well, they got it. Except now that government intervention is mostly going their way, they need something even bigger than acid rain and proper battery disposal to remain relevant.

Well, what's bigger than saying the whole planet is going to h**l in a handbasket?  No one government can solve what they're saying is a huge problem. Instant job security and relvancy until the UN rules the world. Which will be in a couple of centuries, if Star Trek is anything to go by.

Answer 8

You've got a really good point.  I get preached at by the "younger generation" every day on this board as to what should be done for global warming.  I'm a conservative, although not a republican and I don't particularly believe in the whole global warming hoopla (I think it's a natural cycle we shouldn't try to "fix") BUT I do believe in human pollution.  

I drive a prius.  I compost.  I own an organic farm.  I have a windmill and I sell my surplus power back to the power company.  I have solar panels on my house and my barn.  

It sort of frosts me when I get preached at because I'm a conservative when I know DARN well that these big mouths preaching to me aren't doing a fraction of what I am doing for the environment.  I don't whine about it. I don't march for attention and scream "Look at me!  I'm an activist!" I do something about it and not because I'm afraid the polar bears might need to learn to reproduce on land again, but because it's the right thing to do.

Thanks for letting me vent.

Answer 9

I see some common ground here. Most of the increase in mecury in the ground water and in fish(the reason fish has health warning now) is from burning coal.  Why don't we switch to some wind, solar and nuclear power and shut off the coal plants. Any chance we can work together on this?

Answer 10

Economic changes aimed towards doing less damage to the environment don't all function in ways that are detrimental to the economy.  And by the way, pollution has increased massively since the advent of the industrial revolution, and the reasons are because of the economic practices of people who find wastefullness as helpful to their pocket books.

Answer 11

Sorry, wrecking the economy is the main objective, we dont care about that other stuff.

Answer 12

Have you ever noticed that the Global Warming theorists and Environmentalists live in densely populated urban areas that create most of the pollution there is?

Maybe if we can convince hypocrites like Al Gore to stop using 20 times the electricity than the average American we might get somewhere.

Answer 13

what so many here fail to realize,is that you may change your life in any manner you desire in order to help the environment.that's fine. however mandating that i must do as you do is unamerican.

  the nature of the world is that things change.temperatures,rainfall patterns,currents,airflow all change.the dried up pit that is the middle east used to be envied for its incredible fertility.species die out  as they do not adapt to change.that's just the natural order of things.

    if you wish to spend your money fighting the way the world has always been,go ahead.i prefer to spend mine on the areas where i may influence events.that is my choice to make not yours.keep your hands off my wallet,your mind out of my bedroom,and don't talk while i'm fishing,and we'll all be better for it.

Answer 14

Well, if they are investing their own resources, its their choice to be active in anyway they see fit.  What's it to you or anybody else?

If YOU think clean up rather than prevention is the key, you should focus on that.  There are 6 BILLION people on this planet.  They aren't all going to follow a given path on any issue.

Answer 15

Because cleaning it actually cost money that they cannot manifest into a bureaucracy to create invisible revenue for other fraudulent government projects."EX. Chem trails and cost of program" Shows that in due time, greed will consume or control US all. Kinda like recycling , yeah all it feels so so so good to help the enviorment, only to find out it costs more money to perform this task, like more labor workers, equipment, energy to collect and process, The whole thing sounded great , until I saw my yearly trash bill go from 139.00 a year to 198.00 a year from 2007-08, that is a bureaucracy.

Answer 16

I for one have never needed an excuse to be proactive about keeping a clean house, (and this means the house we all live in called Earth). It just makes the most sense.

But, this new guilty obsession is costing all of us more then it should and more then is needed.  It's costing dollars, it's costing our freedoms and it's stunting our growth. Which really is the key. There are actually people (mostly Democrats) that do not believe that man (or women) have the right to prosper on this planet.

I really think they believe that we arrived here on a space ship and we are out to harvest all of the earths resources and leave it as a giant dust ball, like some Star Trek episode.