Why is Global Warming so cold. I'm freezing!!!?

Question

Seriously. I've heard a lot about global warming and the giant ozone hole...(no ozone lately)... and I'm just wondering what the reason is for me freezing. I was thinking it would get 'hotter' but it snowed on Saturday April 19th and that is nearly unheard of. Seems like it is the beginning of the ice age as I was being warned of back in the late 60's. I was told that the USA would be an ICE Berg by 2050. What gives? Any scientists on here?

Answer 1

Conditions over one winter are weather -not climate. Thirty years would be considered climate.

Skeptic argument.

It was way colder than normal today in Wagga Wagga, proof that there is no global warming.

"Does this even deserve an answer? If we must ...

Answer:

The chaotic nature of weather means that no conclusion about climate can ever be drawn from a single data point, hot or cold. The temperature of one place at one time is just weather, and says nothing about climate, much less climate change, much less global climate change."

http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/10...

Answer 2

Well, heres the thing. Weather is controlled by many, many factors. CO2 and other greenhouse gases of course contribute to warmer weather. But, so do other things: geography, pollution, wind patterns, storms, etc. So many other things are all combining to form weather that it provides no direct relationship with CO2 emissions. That is not to say, however, that CO2 emissions do not increase worldwide temperatures--they do, just not steadily and not consistently around the world. You are in one location, therefore you can't speak for the entire world. You can't say the world is freezing, just you. And you may be cold due to the other variables of weather that may be outweighing the effects of global warming. Also, the way you feel is not necessarily what the weather is (thats why it says "feels like ___" on weather.com. Wind and other weather features make it seem colder than it actually is.

So, the best way to assess whether the weather is getting warmer is to look at worldwide statistical data, which demonstrate the world is getting hotter. I think thats a lot more credible than your S****y observation.

Answer 3

That is the problem scientists cant agree on this and weather people can't predict the weather for the next two days yet they can tell us of what it will be doing in 50 years BS.

You sure don't here about how the global temp. has drop a 1/2 degree over the last year (they don't want that to get out).

All of this Global warming thing is a way to get money out of your pocket and into theirs.

A fool and his money are soon parted.

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Answer 4

there's no global warming and it's the end of winter (at least for us) plus ice age is better talk then GW cuz you would look at all of the people who believed in it and they will be all depressed cuz GW didn't happen

Answer 5

If you must perpetuate this myth at least get the decade right, it's the 70's cooling myth not the 60's cooling myth.

Second link shows there is little difference between Arctic ice yesterday and this time last year regardless of how much it is snowing were you are.(Arctic ice highlighted in pink, the rest is just snow)

bob326: and as I cleary stated to you last time, the sea ice is clearly highlighted in pink, the snow on landmass is white, if you can't tell the difference between bright pink and plain white that is hardly my fault.

Edit: bob326

This is not difficult stuff there are only 3 terrains land, water and ice. the landmass positions are well known and don’t move, and can be overlaid no matter what the snow or weather cover, this is done in cloud covered weather pictures all the time, snow won't settle on the sea because its water! What is left is sea ice (false colored to pink/red), because the instrument taking the image is able to roughly estimate thickness, red is thinner, as the simple guide on the left side of the images shows, This seems pretty straight forward to me.

And if bob326 wants to compare 1980 to today try this summer comparision of ice extent see if you notice the change.

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test...

As your knowledge on this subject seems quite limited

Try goggling synthetic aperture radar (SAR)

Canadian Space Agency RADARSAT-1 satellite

Here is a hint the radar signature of snow and ice are quite different, radar is used in the Antarctic to travel as you can detect crevasses through the snow.

Even if this weren’t the case I posted the original image to show the edge of the sea ice were it meets the sea, or are you suggesting snow can survive on liquid water!

The image I posted is meant to show the general low res area of sea ice cover (it does that very well) yes radar has its limits but for this type of image it is fine. The image shows the sea ice extent is the same as last year that is all it is meant to show.

SHORELINE? Who is talking about shoreline we are talking about ice it doesn’t have a shoreline it has an ice edge, which between summer and winter moves by not miles but 10s and 100s of miles. The final say on all this will come around August if the sea ice is as low as it was last summer (a record low) it will prove the current cold winter meant little to the effects of global warming.

Answer 6

The clue is in the question!

Global means the whole planet and, obviously, we are taking about "average temperature".  The weather on any one day at any one place is not significant!

I am not a scientist, but my understanding is that if a system (the atmosphere) is hotter, it must have more energy in it so there will be more extreme events.

Hope this helps

Answer 7

from where i am sitting i`d call you a liar

I am under a fan at full blast in my shorts at 2.30 a.m

for the last 2 weeks we have been in a heat wave

With temperatures from 45 to 50 degrees centigrade

it has never been so hot this early in the year

the whole place is a dust bowl

so please stop trying to create a false impression

Answer 8

If you must perpetuate this myth at least get the decade right, it's the 70's cooling myth not the 60's cooling myth.

Second link shows there is little difference between Arctic ice yesterday and this time last year regardless of how much it is snowing were you are.(Arctic ice highlighted in pink, the rest is just snow)

bob326: and as I cleary stated to you last time, the sea ice is clearly highlighted in pink, the snow on landmass is white, if you can't tell the difference between bright pink and plain white that is hardly my fault.

Edit: bob326

This is not difficult stuff there are only 3 terrains land, water and ice. the landmass positions are well known and don’t move, and can be overlaid no matter what the snow or weather cover, this is done in cloud covered weather pictures all the time, snow won't settle on the sea because its water! What is left is sea ice (false colored to pink/red), because the instrument taking the image is able to roughly estimate thickness, red is thinner, as the simple guide on the left side of the images shows, This seems pretty straight forward to me.

And if bob326 wants to compare 1980 to today try this summer comparision of ice extent see if you notice the change.

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test...

As your knowledge on this subject seems quite limited

Try goggling synthetic aperture radar (SAR)

Canadian Space Agency RADARSAT-1 satellite

Here is a hint the radar signature of snow and ice are quite different, radar is used in the Antarctic to travel as you can detect crevasses through the snow.

Even if this weren’t the case I posted the original image to show the edge of the sea ice were it meets the sea, or are you suggesting snow can survive on liquid water!

Answer 9

Still, antarcticice uses the atmos sea ice pictures to try and compare the sea ice from this year and the last. I mentioned to antarcticice that comparisons using those two pictures are not meaningful because of the large areas of snow cover--making it difficult to actually see the ice. It is still useless.

And if you do use the snapshots for comparison, you can  see that the sea ice last year at this time is similar to the sea ice currently. But then again so is nearly every other year for the past 15 years, when using those snapshots.

What antarcticice fails to mention, though, is that this past winter the arctic saw the largest sea ice growth yet seen on the satellite record. Interesting....

Edit:

Antarcticice,

The problem is that the snow covers large areas of the pink--we don't know the exact extent of the sea ice. So I repeat: Any comparison between those snapshots is not meaningful. Unless you can see through the snow cover?

If you do want to compare though, try comparing 1980 to this year. Or 1981 or 1982, etc. They all look awfully similar....

Edit2:

antarcticice,

Again, can you see through the snow? It is quite obvious that the snow covers areas of the sea ice--mostly around the edges, where it is most important for comparison. If you can't see this, I don't know what to tell you.

Edit3:

Antarcticice said:

"Here is a hint the radar signature of snow and ice are quite different, radar is used in the Antarctic to travel as you can detect crevasses through the snow."

Umm... if you do not know the capabilities of radar (specifically errors--various reasons), then you are hardly worth arguing with. It should be quite apparent that the shoreline (if you are going by snow cover) has changed dramatically since 1980. So if you are actually suggesting that the shoreline has changed by that much, I would like an explanation. Radar error or shoreline advancing by miles....you be the judge

"Even if this weren’t the case I posted the original image to show the edge of the sea ice were it meets the sea, or are you suggesting snow can survive on liquid water!"

Yeah, that is what I am suggesting... Come on.

young_jedii said (I thought I was talking to antarcticice?):

"The image I posted is meant to show the general low res area of sea ice cover (it does that very well) yes radar has its limits but for this type of image it is fine. The image shows the sea ice extent is the same as last year that is all it is meant to show.

SHORELINE? Who is talking about shoreline we are talking about ice it doesn’t have a shoreline it has an ice edge, which between summer and winter moves by not miles but 10s and 100s of miles. The final say on all this will come around August if the sea ice is as low as it was last summer (a record low) it will prove the current cold winter meant little to the effects of global warming."

Shoreline, you know...where the land meets sea ice. Where it is most important for comparison. The snow cover fudges large areas of the shoreline, making any comparison much less useful.

The SHORELINE (where land meets the sea ice) should not change by 10s of 100s of miles, however. Like I said above, if you do want to use these images for comparison, the sea ice coverage in April hasn't really changed for more than a decade.

Andrew Q said:

"antarticice: Valiant effort trying to explain to bob326 but from some of his previous comments its a bit like banging your head against a wall. I love the way Bob326 bangs on about how you can't tell snow from ice and yet in his own statement comments on the fastest growth yet seen, how’s that work! its the same satellite."

This is quite laughable--antarcticice admits that the link gives low res images. Such is quite useless for meaningful comparison. And growth is ...different than comparing coverage. I don't find the contradiction

"Judging by the thumbs for each comment the jury has spoken."

Some jury. A couple of 9th graders who think "An Inconvenient Truth" is all you need to know and Tuba in the Rose, who think the "deniers" are part of some Anti-Semite conspiracy.

Answer 10

Local weather dosen't effect global trends and the ozone hole is related to UV (mainly) and not warming.

antarticice: Valiant effort trying to explain to bob326 but from some of his previous comments its a bit like banging your head against a wall. I love the way Bob326 bangs on about how you can't tell snow from ice and yet in his own statement comments on the fastest growth yet seen, how’s that work! its the same satellite.

Judging by the thumbs for each comment the jury has spoken.

Answer 11

Just one below average winter, which doesn't mean a thing.  It happened in 1982, 1991-1992, 1999-2000.  EVERY TIME global warming came back stronger than ever.  Proof.

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2007/

discussed in detail, with confirmation, at:

http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/01/24/g...

As long as we keep making greenhouse gases in enormous amounts, global warming will dominate in the long run.  It's simple physics.

http://earthguide.ucsd.edu/earthguide/di...

Answer 12

No kidding! We just had the coldest winter in 3 decades!