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Why is he saying that I am a begger?

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Okay so last school year Mr. B the AP statistics teacher posted the list for next years AP statistics class and initially I was on the top 40 but when the official class list came out I wasn't on it. So I went to talk to Mr. B and asked him why I had not made the class list when I was on it before. He told me not to worry because people will eventually drop the class and I would eventually get in. So after couple of weeks passed by I heard from my friends that two people who didn't make the class list (like me) talked to Mr. B and they were added in the class. So I talked to Mr. B thinking that there were possible openings but he told me he had let them in because they had "sadder" stories than I did. So I waited and school ended and summer came and then I emailed Mr. B asking him to update or inform when space in the class became available. So then registration came and then my counselor told me stats was not in my schedule because the class was too full and that I would have to wait for 2 people to drop to be admitted in the class and so I waited and then I received a phone call from my counselor a couple of days ago and he told me stats had opened up. And in a heartbeat I took the offer because I had wanted to be in the class since the beginning. And so after I accepted the offer my brother who had made the class started saying that I begged to be in the class. I got really mad because he did not even considered what the two people I mentioned earlier who got in the class by talking to be did (who are his friends by the way). So I wanted to get an opinion from you honest yahoo answers, if what I did by asking Mr. B and my counselor considered begging? I mean, if anything I understand that I may have been annoying but my schedule was really weak. My friends encouraged me to talk to Mr. B al;l this time which is why I had. I originally wanted to give up that class because I had not gotten in the first time. Anyway, I know that my brother is upset at the first that I got into the same class that he did, which is possibly why he is saying all this stuff about me begging. So is what I did considered begging? Thanks

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  1. You begged, but its cool. Like everyone said you were determined and thats something you'll need later on in life.


  2. Rachel, you're going to have a problem.

    1)  The teacher did NOT have the right to remove you after you were assigned to the original class.  

    2)  He let them in because they had "sadder" stories?  Were they originally in the class and dropped like you were?  And even if not, what is this sad story stuff?  

    3)  You emailed him, without a cc to the counselor, and he, being who he is, ignored it.

    4)  Your brother qualified a year after you did, and his friends got in ahead of you.  It sounds like your brother and Mr. B will get along fine.

    You need to inform your counselor of what you have written above.  You need to document your classwork, hold onto your grades, email your teacher with anything not already documented and keep a file copy PLUS send a blind copy to your counselor.

    The teacher has really been improper in conduct, and you won't improve outcomes if you ignore that.  It sounds as though this may be a popular teacher.  (You, your friends, and the counselor seem to trust him, but ... I believe that trust is misplaced.  Be cautious.)

    And do well in stat!

    Begging?  Get real.  They are bullying, only because they can.  Nip it in the bud.  (Do you have a copy of that first list???  If so, keep it - and carry a copy to throw at your brother the next time he forgets family loyalty!)

  3. It's not considered begging; you were just persistent, that's all. And there's nothing wrong with being persistent when trying to further your education.

    Don't worry about it. Make it a competition to see which of you does better in the class!

    If "beggar" is the worst your brother has ever called you, you're fortunate. And there would be nothing dishonorable even if you did beg to get into the class (not that you did).

    Walk in that classroom with your head held high.

  4. No  it is not begging.. it is being assertive and knowing what you want.  You didn't let it slide and you kept on top of it.  GREAT values!

    don't let your brother bother you...he is being a sibling and siblings say and do things to each other to cause problems.  It is part of being siblings.

    You are also male..that testosterone is up and running too.  ;))  Maybe he is afraid you will do better...who cares.  You do your work and enjoy it...you know what you need and where you need to go to get where you are.  

    You are ambitious..nothing wrong with that.

  5. No, I don't consider it begging.  I would say you were demonstrating perseverance, which is not a fault.  If you want something bad enough, you have to keep going after it, or you will never have a chance.  There is an old saying:  "He who hesitates is lost".  There is much truth in those old maxims, and that's why they have become a part of our history.  I commend you for your perseverance, or as one of my old school teachers used to call it, "Stick-to-it-ism" Don't let your brother bamboozle you.  He probably is just jealous!  Good luck!  

  6. Sure it's begging - and it's a great skill to learn before college.  When you are a college freshman you have to beg to get into any good class - it's nothing to be ashamed of - it's actually quite a useful skill.

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