Why is it permissible even desirable for Muslims to eat kosher meat but forbidden for Jews to eat Halal meat?

Question

According to "(S&SU)," Judaism and Islam are TWO SEPARATE AND DISTINCT RELIGIONS, and under Islam a Muslim (in dire need) could just as well eat pork as Kosher food!

Answer 1

Kosher meat is permissible (under some circumstances) but not desirable for us Muslims. Halal means the meat that has been slaughtered according to the Sharia (Islamic Laws). The most important requirement is the animal being slaughtered in the name of Allah (swt), any other meat which is not slaughtered in Allah's (swt) name is not Halal.

Meat that is certified kosher is not permitted to be eaten by Muslims. The only exception is when your life is in danger, say due to hunger and kosher meat is the only available food. Under such circumstances it is even permissible to consume pork or blood or anything available that can save one's life.

Some of the Haraam (non-Halal or forbidden for Muslims) which are explicitly forbidden are

Pork

Blood

Any decomposed or rotting meat from even an otherwise Halal animal

Meat from Donkeys

Birds that hold the prey in their claws while eating and the ones that close their eyes while eating

All carnivorous animals (except birds and fish. All fish is Halal even if it is dead when captured)

Any food which comes in contact with non-Halal food becomes non-Halal too.

While there is a great emphasis on the way an animal is slaughtered in Judaism to make it kosher, the Halal laws are less strict. Kosher law requires the knife to be razor sharp with no deformities and the animal must be slaughtered in a single stroke upto a certain depth in it's throat, failure to do so would render it non-kosher. Kosher law gives great importance to reduce the sufferings of the animal being slaughtered for food, just like Islamic law. There are a few restrictions on mixing certain foods according to the kosher laws (especially milk and meat) which are not present in Halal laws. I have even read that some observant (and pious) Jewish people have different kitchens to process meat and milk foods.

While the Kosher laws are very strict and very well defined, Halal laws are less stricter and are slightly more flexible. While it is required that the knife be sharp enough to reduce the suffering of the animal but deformities if present on the knife will not make the meat non-Halal. Similarly failure to rupture the throat in a single stroke (while highly recommended) will not make it non-Halal either. I have personally seen many cases where the knife is a little blunt and the slaughterer has to cut twice or thrice to slit the throat. The only requirement is to ensure that the animal is killed as painlessly as possible. That being said, I have seen children play with the animal (say bulls) or otherwise tease it so that it puts up resistance during slaughter, this does not make it non-Halal for us to eat. This is however not the case in kosher law, which is more stricter.

I will star this question so that some of my contacts, who are more knowledgeable will hopefully come here and give you some more information about Halal meat.

Answer 2

Because halal is a subset of kosher.

The kosher rules are more strict, so that all meat that is kosher is also halal.  But almost no halal meat is also kosher.

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Answer 3

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Answer 4

You are talking about two different groups with two sets of rules for permitted food.

The kosher laws are very strict.  The halal laws are much less so.

So a Muslim knows that he may eat all food that is certified kosher, while the converse is not true.

It was the Prophet Muhammad himself who attempted to negate the positive image of the Jew that had been prevalent earlier.  According to historian Bernard Lewis, the Prophet Muhammad's original plan had been to induce the Jews to adopt Islam; when Muhammad began his rule at Medina in AD 622 he counted few supporters, so he adopted several Jewish practices-including daily prayers facing toward Jerusalem and the fast of Yom Kippur-in the hope of wooing the Jews.  But the Jewish community rejected the Prophet Muhammad's religion, preferring to adhere to its own beliefs, whereupon Muhammad subsequently substituted Mecca for Jerusalem, and dropped many of the Jewish practices.

Jews faced the danger of incurring the wrath of a Muslim, in which case the Muslim could charge, however falsely, that the Jew had cursed Islam, an accusation against which the Jew could not defend himself.  Islamic religious law decreed that, although murder of one Muslim by another Muslim was punishable by death, a Muslim who murdered a non-Muslim was given not the death penalty, but only the obligation to pay "blood money" to the family of the slain infidel.  Even this punishment was unlikely, however, because the law held the testimony of a Jew or a Christian invalid against a Muslim, and the penalty could only be exacted under improbable conditions--when two Muslims were willing to testify against a brother Muslim for the sake of an infidel.  

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Answer 5

I think you are missing the whole purpose for the Jewish beliefs about food, food preparation and food handling in general.  It has NOTHING to do with RELIGION... it has EVERYTHING to do with PUBLIC HEALTH.  

Those passages in the Bible and those ancient beliefs were written and developed at a time WHEN THERE WAS NO REFRIGERATION in a part of the world where it got HOT and some foods, when not properly prepared or served could MAKE YOU SICK... or even KILL YOU...

The ENTIRE of the early religious beliefs had NOTHING to do with RELIGION... it had/has EVERYTHING to do with PUBLIC HEALTH.

Answer 6

because Halal food may be prepared in a non kosher way. For example a muslim may use a knife that he previously cut cheese with, to then cut halal meat. Using the same utencil to cut meat and diary products is considered not kosher and this is why Jews tend to have different sets of utencils. So the Halal meat could be kosher but the way it was prepared is not and therefore, jews can't eat it.

Answer 7

because in kasruth, milk with meat is forbidden while its permissable in halal. i am not sure, i could be wrong

Answer 8

Halal is the reform of kosher. Not every Jew live on kosher food but most Muslims eats Halal food and kosher food too it is Halal too.

Answer 9

To state is simply without going into excessive details: The requirements which make something Kosher encompass all the rules that make something Halal.  Conversely, the Halal meat does not include all the rules of Kashrus, and is therefor not Kosher.

Now some details, but just the general outline:  As long as Halal meat isn't made of specifically forbidden foods (which Judaism also forbids along with more) the only binding condition is that the slaughter method should be similar to the dhabiha slaughter method, (i.e. deep incision with a sharp knife on the neck, cutting the jugular veins and carotid arteries of both sides) while usually said giving reference to G-d in the process - though Muslim's hold G-d's name can be said anytime prior to consumption and it will be Halal as long as dhabiha was performed.  The Schita (Kosher) slaughtering method is similar enough to count for Muslims (while Schita must be exact in Judaism, and dhabiha won't be good enough for Jews) and prior to being performed, a blessing is said which involves G-d's name.

Answer 10

Because all kosher meat is Halal, but not all halal meat meets kosher standards?

Just a guess, knowing what Kashrut is all about.

Answer 11

The short answer is that Jewish holy text predate Halal, therefore none of them can possibly give permission for it to be eaten.

Also, the Halal rituals are different from the Kosher rituals. With Islam there can be something can be considered good enough, or not good enough depending on its merits, with Judaism it is often about dotting the Is and crossing the Ts. Different means not good enough, period.

Answer 12

The laws for halal meat are a subset of the laws for meat to be kosher.  So if you want meat that is kosher, halal is a necessary but not a sufficient condition.  If you want meat that is halal, kosher is a sufficient, but not a necessary condition.

Answer 13

because it has to be kosher meat and even if it is kosher meat the animal has to be cut up in a certain way and a rabbi has to be watching the process to make sure there wasn't a mistake made and it can't be touched directly by non jewish hands  

Answer 14

Chubby Checker - In mathematical terms, that would mean that Kosher food is a subset of Halal food.

Answer 15

Halal meat is not kosher.

The standards or rules for what is kosher and what is halal are different.

Answer 16

Clean is clean.

A Jew is Jewish.

Answer 17

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