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Why is it that a college graduate with a degree is unable to get a job...?

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Why is it that a college graduate with a degree is unable to get a job without "prior experience", yet we are expected to elect a president with the same lack of experience without question?

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  1. Yea I always thought that was dumb.  They expect you to have experience but how do you get experience if no one is willing to give you a chance.  Everything is 5 or more yrs experience, its ridiculous.


  2. Good point Julian. The experience is obviously the lack of time in American politics for Obama. Is that a bad thing htough? I am not an Obama supporter, but it would be nice to see someone actually lead by ethics and not by favors. If the big car companies get someone into office, how can that president actually pass anything that will require the big car companies to increase the fuel efficiency? Doesn't happen.

    Same with border protection, etc.

    As far as a college grad trying to get a job without expereince... many places hire w/o expereince. But they typically want the higher income without the expereince and that is not right. Having a degree is great, but one should still work for a living before everything is handed to him. Getting experience isn't that hard either-just gotta be willing to make less than you hoped for. Only a year or 2 is really expected.

  3. nice question. im having the same problems as well. but i think if you just look hard enough and not be very picky about what you find, i thnk youll get a job.. I do have a job rightnow but its not what i really wanted. its good for the mean time while im looking what i really wanted.

  4. That's an awful comparison.

    Explain to me how someone can have "experience" as president if they aren't going for a 2nd term?

    There are three qualifications for president -- citizenship, minimal years residing in the country and a minimal age requirement.  Experience is subjective.

    If you think someone is more experienced because of the type of professional or personal things they have done, that is one thing.  But there is no such thing as "presidential experience".

    So you be the judge -- a long-time senator with some military experience or a professor, community organizer, lawyer and short-term senator more 'experienced' to be the President?  

    Ultimately I'd say the best president is the one who can deliver on the vision they are making for where they want to take the country in the next 4years and what in their background shows they can accomplish that.

  5. What you learn from books does not teach you the job. Anyone can "talk" a good job, but only those who have experience can do it productively and effectively.

    I have sympathy with your view, but an employer would rather have someone who has worked their way up and knows the job inside out than someone who knows all the theory yet has not had the practice. Tis the old "chicken and egg" equation. I am in the UK, none of our Prime Ministers had done the job before, they were expected to have worked their way up the ranks. Very often it is the "minions" who have more insight and influence than those at the top. Where the argument fails is when those successful minions are so beguiled/overruled  by THEIR minions, that they lose sight of their original intentions. Accept the fact that our leaders do not operate in isolation or from some sense of philanthropy, they soon learn that they are merely figureheads, mouthpieces for others, the masters soon become the puppets. Only in dictatorships does the leader have ultimate power, and we can see around us today where that has led.and been countenanced!  In a so called democracy the leader quickly learns their place, experience is not the issue, being able to fool most of the people some of the time is the master plan. The puppet masters always ensure the "best" candidate wins.

    Look at Reagan, look at Bush,  to name but two, either America is mad, or the system is corrupt, as are all "alleged" democracies. You pays your money etc. Get "Joe Bloggs" to run the country, he has more experience, more insight, more nous than any of them, yet he would be eaten alive because he has been elected to serve the people and not the masters.

  6. This isn't the 90's where you could look forward to a great job right out of college. Welcome to another Bush Recession.

    Want to keep the economy in the toilet? Vote for McCain.

  7. While you are right to think that you can't have the experience of being president, without, well, being president, you can get experience from doing other things. Just as if you may have never been, I don't know, a systems analyst or payroll manager, but MAY have had other experience, like extracurricular activities  or internships that may relate to the job or your work ethic.

    Much like that politicians may accrue experience in a variety of facets. From state legislatures, to grass-roots politics. Further more there are very many different ways to get the type of executive experience necessary to be President. Like how Reagan was a governor, essentially the president of California, or Eisenhower was a general, not commander in chief, but a commander sure enough. Candidates like Mitt Romney, Steve Forbes or Ross Perot, in recent years, can claim that their experience running multinational corporations with billions in revenue is comparable to working with the government.

    Also, few employers have a definite idea of what they want exactly in an employee. And even if they did, I would be hard pressed to believe that they could ever find it. What employers are looking for is candidates that can best fit several different qualities they are looking for.

    Richard Neustadt, author of "Presidential Power and the Modern Presidents: The Politics of Leadership from Roosevelt to Reagan" states that, historically,  Americans tend to look for both a leader AND a clerk in a president. Someone who has vision but also can manage the government. A jock, actor, prep, and a nerd intellectual. There are lots of things that can get you that type of experience.

  8. college grad without experience failed to plan,get internship,get degree or apply for position in demand, if a teen with a ged and an ex felon can get a job, then college degreed person needs to check their attitude,gain some social skills, revamp their resume,and get some realistic expectations.

    the standards for being president haven't changed recently and the failure of a college grad to find a job has nothing to do with who runs for president

  9. Lincoln did not have a college degree.

  10. That's what entry level positions are for.

    Also, it's not like Obama's professional life started when he joined the Senate.

  11. Good question!  Yes it is rather unfortunate that Obama has little experience in the government.  It is very unfortunate that many people in America will still vote for him despite his lack of experience.  Obama has hyptotized many Americans in to believing that he is the next best thing.  Very strange how many people will overlook his lack of experience just to vote against "another Bush" although McCain is far different than Bush.  McCain's experince in congress should count for something, but unfortunately, many (especially Obama supportors) will overlook this.

  12. a college degree makes u educated.. it does not make u smart

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