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Why is it that the older men, 35+, continue to sit in their seats in a standing room only train rather than?

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being a gentleman & give up their seat to those of us women standing in high heels, carrying a heavy purse? It's usually the younger gen. that give up their seats & have some manners.

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  1. you wanted to be equal, didn't you?

    maybe you didn't, but those that did, fixed it for women.

    there was a time every man jumped to open doors, and give up seats, but, thats when women were ladies. now, you have 12 year old girls that talk like army sgt.,and you think we men should treat them like ladies? if you don't like the bed you women made for yourselves, change it.


  2. I think age is more important than gender.  A younger person should give up a seat to an older person.  

    Also, young men might be interested in scoring dates, whereas older men don't care.

  3. 1. Who asked you to wear high heels and carry a heavy purse? Why should we men pay for your mistakes? Would you give up your seat to a gentleman carrying a heavy briefcase? What about a teenage boy tired after sports practice? I bet not.

    2. Why do you expect that men should do you favors? Do you not believe women are equal to men? I would do a favor to someone I felt sorry for (like a child), not someone I saw as my equal. Expecting men to give up their seats for you shows that you consider yourself inferior to men.

  4. cause thats the new style

  5. Its part of getting old.

  6. I object to your generalization that older men don't give up their seats to a lady.  I'm 43 and I've lived in several cities with highly traveled mass transit and I've always made a practice of giving up my seat to a lady.

    Wait, that's why...  You referred to yourself as a woman, not a lady.  Well, there you go.

    If you know you're going to be riding mass transit and there's a chance you may have to stand, add some lightweight sneakers to your already heavy purse.  Slip a packet or two of Midol in there as well.  You seem a little tense...

  7. You've got a point, however, I'm sure they look at it as wearing high heels and carrying a heavy purse are choices YOU made, so why should they be inconvenienced.

    When I was pregnant with my first child, I still worked and had to take the subway to and from my office.  I was always amazed that the guys who would give up their seats for me almost always appeared to be the type that would slit your throat in a back alley.  The guys who wore the expensive suits and overcoats usually buried their noses in the a newspaper and pretended not to see me and my huge belly.  In fact, I'll never forget the day one guy who wore a suit and carried a briefcase actually raced me for the last seat on the subway car.  Being 8 months pregnant, I was no match for him and he plopped his flabby rear-end down, opened his magazine and pretended not to see me standing next to him for the whole ride home.

  8. Ask Helen Reddy and Gloria Steinem.  For bonus points, analyze this phrase from Ms. Steinem: "a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle" and this lyric from Ms. Reddy:

    I am strong / I am invincible / I am woman.

    Keep in mind that twenty-five years ago, polite men in their twenties risked righteous indignation if they held open a door or offered a subway seat, as it suggested that women were somehow weaker.  The libbers of the '70s destroyed chivalry for a generation.

  9. Robert K is right. In the 70's we were screamed at for giving up seats, holding open doors, seating the ladies and any other courtesy we were taught by our mothers. I still do those things and since I'm 6'2'' and 300 lbs of biker no one says anything except thank you.

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