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Why is it that those that say Global Warming is a problem? never seem to understand the benefits...

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of a warmer climate? None of them will admit the fact that warmer temperatures mean more crops can be grown and energy costs in the winter will go down.

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  1. Why is it those that say Global Warming is a good thing never seem to understand the COSTS of a warmer climate?  None of them will admit the fact that warmer temperatures mean flooded coastal cities and towns (some of the most expensive, populated in the world), severe droughts and desertification in the place of current farm belts, and energy costs in the warm climate (air conditioning) will go up.

    In case you didn't know it Jim, basic math is that if you put a minus sign after a plus sign, there is no benefit but nothing.  So, where is the benefit. . . ?


  2. I probably live a lot farther north than most of the people here.  Global warming would actually be of some benefit here, especially in the longer growing seasons and improved climate.  But that won't happen because global warming isn't real...a bit sad because I'm tired of the cool summer weather that normally is much warmer.  I'm glad that it's nothing more than a political scam because if it were real we'd be in big trouble, but I'm dismayed that some politicians and scientists will stoop so low just for the money.

  3. true but there will be little snow and more extinct animals and i would rather have the weather be 40 degrees instead of 100

    oh and there will be less rain so the crops would have to be watered with water that came from the ocean but has been filtered

    and no polar ice caps

  4. When you are suggesting that something is really bad and we need to act right now, and if we don't, we may face serious consequences, then allowing potential benefits may hinder action which you believe to be necessary.  It does tend to make their arguments look shrill and unreasoned IMO.

    You notice Pamela takes the example of warmer climates needing more energy and refuses to look at warmer winters needing less.  It is a perfect example of how alarmist look only at the glass as half empty and refuse to look at benefits.  Pamela suggests that a minus sign in front of a plus sign is nothing.  Sometimes, I think alarmists are purposely ignorant.  As an engineer, I find that use of math as an excuse to remain ignorant of potential benefits, mindboggling, to say the least.

    When you get a bunch of down arrows from socialists and children, sometimes it is irritating and sometimes it feels good that I got to them for they are the enemy to freedom (socialists are, not children) and they need to be vigorously fought at every opportunity.

  5. true, but dont you think that all these animals out there with things in them that can help cancers, colds, or other things like that? well, with hot and humade weather, how will they adapt so quickly?  

  6. We do understand that some climate zones will benefit, others, such as those in Mediterranean climate zones, have much drier hotter conditions to look forward to. The question you need to ask is whether the benefits will outweigh the problems.  When scientists look at this in detail the answer is a resounding no, a warmer Earth will cost trillions of dollars which will not be offset by benefits, and perhaps hundreds of  thousands of lives.

    Just look at things on a case by case basis.  For example, in the US California is not just the most populous state, it is also the leading agricultural state.  In a warmer, drier climate water supplies will be insufficient to support the agriculture and population, so either costly new water projects must be devised or else agriculture must be sacrificed.  This scenario will be repeated all over the western US, the Mediterranean region, North Africa, on and on.

    Plants may be more productive with longer growing seasons and higher levels of CO2, but only if they can survive on decreased amounts of water.  We could easily adjust if the changes took place over millenia, but if the changes take place over decades we may be in big trouble.  

  7. i don't think so . it will mean mass extinction. plants , animals , humans . go rent the movie 'soylent green' .

  8. What you say is true but there's a catch. If we carry on soon our rivers will dry. Also people in hotter Country's  will not be able to stand the heat. Animals will also die. If you check then news some country's hasn't had rain in ages due to global warming. Btw i'm not some eco friendly guy, i'm no where near that. So as a conclusion id rather keep things the same than taking the risk of global warming but what the heck no one listens to the risks and Carry's on so it will probably happen unless the government do something about it. Hope that helped.

  9. And more desert where crops are grown now and energy costs will go up in the summer and malaria will be spread throughout most of the US.    I'd rather continue the way things are going now since there are mosquitos all around where I live and I don't want my food and water poisoned by DDT.

  10. For an individual person, an increase of temperature can at the first glance have some advantages, like e.g. less snow to wipe away during winter time or some warm summer evenings.

    However it is very shortsighted to talk about pros of global warming at all. Mankind has been negatively interfering with Nature. This can on one hand lead to catastrophic consequences on earth, on the other hand it is also counterproductive for personal human growth.

    One of the main purposes of our life on earth is to find harmony with ourselves and with our environment, i.e. with Nature (see primer to the meaning of life ). How can we harm and destroy what we wanted to come in harmony with?

  11. Some environments require the cold.  For example, apples do notoriously poorly in a climate which is tropical.  Likewise, much arctic wildlife would suffer greatly were their habitats to become warmer.

    Another point you have to understand is global warming is not just about warming.  Yes, some places will be warmer, but it also will throw off weather patterns.  For example, Europe is in a warm current which keeps it warmer than North America.  In other words, if you draw a line across from Pennsylvania, across the ocean, you will wind up in Spain.  As you probably know, Spain enjoys a much milder climate than Pennsylvania.  Global warming could throw this jet stream off course, and all of Europe would have a climate much more like current Scandinavia.

    So as for growing more crops, in some places, yes, but in soem places no.

    And as for heating costs, sure in some places, but in some the opposite will occur.  Also, think of the cost of air-conditioning!

  12. i agree my frnd that warmer climate gives better crops bt the fact is that the temperature of the earths crust increases considerably....

    this is nt a good sign fr future generations.........

  13. i am guessing you are american. how about a little empathy with the people of the countries that will become deserts? i.e. most of africa, australia, vast tracts of asia and south america.....

  14. Any benefits will be drowned in the costs.  In California:

    A 12-inch sea level rise by 2050 would translate into $1.2 billion in levee improvements needed in the San Francisco Bay Delta and the San Joaquin Valley. Water supply costs due to scarcity and increased operating costs would increase by as much as $689 million per year by 2050. Due to snow pack loss, California’s winter sports businesses would shrink by $1.4 billion annually by 2050, and lose 14,500 jobs, and many other sectors of California’s economy would suffer.

    I'd say that's a problem.

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