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Why is telling LIES allowed in Islam ?

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Quran 002.225 : Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts; and He is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing.

Quran 066.002 : Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths (in some cases): and Allah is your Protector, and He is Full of Knowledge and Wisdom.

Muhammad: I ascribed to allah, what he had not said. (Ibn Sa'd, vol. 1, p. 237). I have fabricated things against allah and have imputed to him words which he has not spoken. (Al-Tabari, vol. 6, p. 111).

From above we see that Muhammad had a bad habit of lying and allah had a habit of allowing lies to pervade until further notice and pays scant regard for truth.

But, see what the following says:

James 1:26 If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless.

John 8:44 You belong to your father, the Devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

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  1. Muhammed allowed lying for the sake of killing,

    Volume 5, Book 59, Number 369:

    Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:

    Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it." Then Muhammad bin Maslama went to Kab and said, "That man (i.e. Muhammad demands Sadaqa (i.e. Zakat) from us, and he has troubled us, and I have come to borrow something from you." On that, Kab said, "By Allah, you will get tired of him!" Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Now as we have followed him, we do not want to leave him unless and until we see how his end is going to be. Now we want you to lend us a camel load or two of food." (Some difference between narrators about a camel load or two.) Kab said, "Yes, (I will lend you), but you should mortgage something to me." Muhammad bin Mas-lama and his companion said, "What do you want?" Ka'b replied, "Mortgage your women to me." They said, "How can we mortgage our women to you and you are the most handsome of the 'Arabs?" Ka'b said, "Then mortgage your sons to me." They said, "How can we mortgage our sons to you? Later they would be abused by the people's saying that so-and-so has been mortgaged for a camel load of food. That would cause us great disgrace, but we will mortgage our arms to you." Muhammad bin Maslama and his companion promised Kab that Muhammad would return to him. He came to Kab at night along with Kab's foster brother, Abu Na'ila. Kab invited them to come into his fort, and then he went down to them. His wife asked him, "Where are you going at this time?" Kab replied, "None but Muhammad bin Maslama and my (foster) brother Abu Na'ila have come." His wife said, "I hear a voice as if dropping blood is from him, Ka'b said. "They are none but my brother Muhammad bin Maslama and my foster brother Abu Naila. A generous man should respond to a call at night even if invited to be killed." Muhammad bin Maslama went with two men. (Some narrators mention the men as 'Abu bin Jabr. Al Harith bin Aus and Abbad bin Bishr). So Muhammad bin Maslama went in together with two men, and sail to them, "When Ka'b comes, I will touch his hair and smell it, and when you see that I have got hold of his head, strip him. I will let you smell his head." Kab bin Al-Ashraf came down to them wrapped in his clothes, and diffusing perfume. Muhammad bin Maslama said. " have never smelt a better scent than this. Ka'b replied. "I have got the best 'Arab women who know how to use the high class of perfume." Muhammad bin Maslama requested Ka'b "Will you allow me to smell your head?" Ka'b said, "Yes." Muhammad smelt it and made his companions smell it as well. Then he requested Ka'b again, "Will you let me (smell your head)?" Ka'b said, "Yes." When Muhammad got a strong hold of him, he said (to his companions), "Get at him!" So they killed him and went to the Prophet and informed him. (Abu Rafi) was killed after Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf."


  2. Lieing is not allwed in Islam at any cost....


  3. from where you get this information

    its not allowed

    No, it is not allowed unless necessary for good work


  4. hahah .......... u r desperate right!!!

    Islam forbidd lying , this is just according to fancying people

    and u asked this Q b4 , don't u remember ?!!! i don't blam u

    ah.... u r lying if u didn't realize , since u r a kaffir using a muslim avatar and name  

  5. well i was waiting for this kind of question,

    Quran 002.225 : Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts; and He is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing.

    i think the verse is crystal clear,

    u think about something,u don't sin,

    what wrong with that???

    Quran 066.002 : Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths (in some cases): and Allah is your Protector, and He is Full of Knowledge and Wisdom.

    IN SOME CASES!!!!!

    Muhammad: I ascribed to allah, what he had not said. (Ibn Sa'd, vol. 1, p. 237). I have fabricated things against allah and have imputed to him words which he has not spoken. (Al-Tabari, vol. 6, p. 111).

    Tabari himself said that his his collection of Hadiths r weak,

    so they r not recognized as AUTHENTIC Hadiths like Bukhari and Muslim,

    u quote verses from Bible,

    let me have the honor of quoting too....

    DOES ALLAH NEED TO REFRESH  ?!

    ------------------------------

    [Exo. 31:17]

    For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he

    rested, and was refreshed.

    WAKE UP GOD !!

    -------------

    [Psalm. 4:23]

    Awake, why do you sleep, O Lord?

    [Psalm. 4:23]

    Then the Lord awaked as one out of sleep, and like a mighty man that shouts

    by reason of wine.

    DOES HE FORGET ?!

    ------------------

    [Psalm 13:1]

    How long O Lord ? will you forget me forever.

    [Lam. 5:20]

    Why do you forget us forever, why do you so long forsake us?

    DOES HE REGRET ?!

    -----------------

    [Gen. 6:6]

    And the Lord was sorry that he made man on the earth, and it grieved him to

    his heart. [he said]:

    [Gen 6:7] "For I am sorry that I have made them."

    DOES HE ABUSE HIMSELF ?!

    ------------------------

    [Jer. 10:18]

    For thus says the Lord, Woe is me for my hurt! my wound is grievous.

    DOES HE ORDER HIS PEOPLE TO STEAL ?!

    ------------------------------------

    [Exo. 13:21]

    God ordered the people of Israel to BORROW FROM THE EGYPTIANS THEIR JEWELS

    AND THEN TO GET AWAY WITH THEM WHEN LEAVING EGYPT WITH MOSES. (See in details

    Exodus 3:22 & 11:1 & 12:35)

    DOES HE CLAP ?!

    ----------------

    [Ezek. 21:17]  I will strike my hands together.

    [Ezek. 22:13]  Therefore I smite my hand. (in K.J.V. Smite)

    Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr: "The Prophet said, "Whoever has the following four (characteristics) will be a pure hypocrite and whoever has one of the following four characteristics will have one characteristic of hypocrisy unless and until he gives it up.

    1. Whenever he is entrusted, he betrays.

    2. Whenever he speaks, he tells a lie.

    3. Whenever he makes a covenant, he proves treacherous.

    4. Whenever he quarrels, he behaves in a very imprudent, evil and insulting manner."  (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Belief, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 33)"

    EDIT:

    Ladies and Gentlemen!!

    do u see that the asker doe not even know her own book!!

    i have not quoted discrepancies,i have quoted u to show how lame your Bible is!!

    Your God claps,he drinks,orders people to steal,he regrets,he forgets,he abuses himself,

  6. It's not allowed in any religion, not only islam.

    One would think you would know this..what a disappointment!!!!

  7. the lair who follows James and John.

  8. your story is false.. simple. you have copied half sentences.

    First verse you quoted is about habitual oath. like some people have habit of saying "by God" very frequently.

  9. People who lie to themselves should not be answered.

    Look at yourself, you are talking about lies then "using an avatar with Hijab" while you are not Muslim.

    You are even pretending to be a Christian while you are not.

    When you don't see the sun, it is the problem of your eyes; not the problem of the sun.


  10. No, it is not allowed unless necessary for good course.

  11. I cannot cannot understand how you interpreted it to allow lies.... if you manage to explain and convince me i'd suggest you go and become a lawyer

    :) not necessarily.. pschiatrists are doctors and don't interpret they examine the functions of the brains, ... lawyers do interpret laws :)



  12. It is only those who believe not in the Signs of Allah, who forge falsehood, and they it is who are the liars. (16:105)

    Whoso disbelieves in Allah after he has believed - (((save him who is forced to make a declaration of disbelief while his heart finds peace))) in faith - but such as open their breast to disbelief, on them is Allah's wrath; and for them is decreed a severe punishment. (16:106)

    Holy Quran

    Holy Quran

    It has been narrated by Abd al-Razak, Ibn Sa'd, Ibn Jarir, Ibn Abi Hatim,Ibn Mardawayh, al-Bayhaqi in his book "al- Dala-il," and  by al-Hakim in his book "al- Mustadrak" that:

    "The nonbelievers arrested `Ammar Ibn Yasir (ra) and (tortured him until) he (ra) uttered foul words about the Prophet (s), and praised their gods (idols); and when they released him (ra), he (ra) went straight to the Prophet (s).  The Prophet (s) said: "Is there something on your mind?"  `Ammar Ibn Yasir (ra) said: "Bad (news)! They would not release me until I defamed you (s) and praised their gods!"  The Prophet (s) said: "How do you find your heart to be?" `Ammar (ra) answered: "Comfortable with faith."  So the Prophet (s) said: "Then if they come back for you, then do the same thing all over again."  Allah (SWT) at that moment revealed the verse: "....except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in faith...(16:106)"

    Ibn Abbas also commented on this verse, as narrated in Sunan al-

    Bayhaqi and Mustadrak al-Hakim, by saying:

    "al-Taqiyya is the uttering of the tongue, while the heart is comfortable with faith."


  13. Do Not Take God's Name in Vain

    [2:224] Do not subject GOD's name to your casual swearing, that you may appear righteous, pious, or to attain credibility among the people. GOD is Hearer, Knower.

    [2:225] GOD does not hold you responsible for the mere utterance of oaths; He holds you responsible for your innermost intentions. GOD is Forgiver, Clement

    [66:0] In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

    [66:1] O you prophet, why do you prohibit what GOD has made lawful for you, just to please your wives? GOD is Forgiver, Merciful.

    [66:2] GOD has decreed for you the laws dealing with your oaths. GOD is your Lord, and He is the Omniscient, Most Wise.

    trying to prove that your God and God of Prophet Muhammed are not the same !!

    well what a shame :)

    how do you propose telling lies is allowed in Islam ,,with no knowledge of Islam !!

    nourish your hatred and malice,,good for you ..

    and by the way the hadith you quoted,,you will be SHOCKED to know hadith books are NOT SOURCE OF ISLAMIC TEACHINGS AND COMMANDS AND LAWS OF ALLAH ALLMIGHTY..

    Glorious Quran is

    @@ FTL.... you are a very callous and IGNORANT person..you know NOTHING about Islam

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